India tour of Australia Nov'20-Jan'21

[CerealKiller]

Indian Players Involved In More Possible Covid Protocol Violations: Report | Cricket News

So now Virat Kohli, Hardik Pandya are being investigated as well for visiting a baby store during the limited over series. Again, I have stated this before and will state this again that if the protocols were breached, fine them, penalize them even though they have tested negative. Also its completely nonsense that the Australian media is cooking this up to play mind games. Come on guys, the photo about the bill getting paid was posted by an Indian on twitter. Also more then the players, I would penalize the management for allowing them to go out IF and a big IF they were not allowed to go out.

On the Brisbane test match, looks like one thing was said before the series and now another is being said. If Indian team does not want to stay in hard quarantine and if it was not what was mentioned in the MOU, they have all the rights to not go to Brisbane and play. Nathan Lyon with his nonsense of pull up your socks and play has no clue on what Indian players have gone through with the bio bubble and all since the IPL started while he was at home watching matches. So no, if the team does not want to be in the hard quarantine because it was not what was said, they are free to make the decision.

On the other hand, if there is something in the MOU that states about following updated rules and regulations from the government, India has to go to Brisbane, follow the countries rules and regulations and pull up their socks, no two way about that.

On the match, I have a feeling we are due for Warner Smith bashing. India to lose by an innings and 30 runs perhaps.

You raise a good point, but on the other hand, if you can have 20000 people in a stadium, who are respecting social distancing without having to wear a mask, why can’t the players go out, while respecting social distancing? Seems odd.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

You raise a good point, but on the other hand, if you can have 20000 people in a stadium, who are respecting social distancing without having to wear a mask, why can’t the players go out, while respecting social distancing? Seems odd.

It will be 10-12,000 fans. And it seems to be a decision that many health professionals are against.

I just want to see one statement from the Aussie government stating categorically that the Indians were in breach of protocols with proof. That's it. If it is so, I have no issue sending them back or placing bans for games.

I can retort to your petty little dig but I don't want to make it about India vs England because this horrific disease sees none of that and I am past the age to have a ding dong with you purely because you're English. It would not be fair on the great country.

I believe there's an investigation going on into whether or not there was a breach. I expect would a government, if they even needed to make a statement about it, would wait until the investigation is done before jumping to conclusions and making potentially inflammatory statements.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

You raise a good point, but on the other hand, if you can have 20000 people in a stadium, who are respecting social distancing without having to wear a mask, why can’t the players go out, while respecting social distancing? Seems odd.

No, I get the players perspective. I completely agree that if the crowd is at the stadium, how is it different when you are out for lunch. I am just going to wait and go by books for this scenario. There is no wrong or right here. Everything depends on what agreements were made by CA and BCCI. The funny part is none of the boards will be upfront about this as I feel they might have not even thought about this. They might have thought nothing like this would happen perhaps. BCCI & CA should be the ones answering but as @wasteyouryouth said, we wont hear anything until the "investigation" is complete. This investigation will be complete post the 4th test. Just like how Kohli and Pandya will be investigated for things they did and are now in India (tested negative).

 

[LiveLoveABD]

It will be 10-12,000 fans. And it seems to be a decision that many health professionals are against.


I believe there's an investigation going on into whether or not there was a breach. I expect would a government, if they even needed to make a statement about it, would wait until the investigation is done before jumping to conclusions and making potentially inflammatory statements.

Exactly, so until proven otherwise may be you should not insinuate that we Indians are overreacting about the Australian media making a big story out of this to gain traction on the field. Please note, no Indian journalists are in Australia so we are hearing one side of the argument. Also, as a pom you should know how capable the Aussies are of pulling off such stunts or are such things only possible when the Ashes are on? Remember that time when Stuart Broad insinuated that the Aussies might have been tampering the ball during the Ashes if they were doing so against South Africa?

 

[Till Valhalla]

Covid is not magic that once you test negative you can't get it. There's a distance between the crowd and players, but players going out are at risk of exposure and if they catch it they bring it back to all the other players.
Australian government works differently from what I know the states have power to make their own rules regarding different things, which they have been doing in respect to how covid is spreading at the moment.
When the series started, majority of the states were nearly covid free and hence the rules were laxed but after that there has been a greater increase in cases in Sydney and Melbourne which lead to other states changing their rules regarding travelling.

I don't think the explanation that they should be cut some slack because what they have been through since IPL is not good since there are lot of people working backstage who have gone through worse since longer time and are going though worse to make the matches happen I know that from personal experience.

It's simple if the country deems fit that Team India has breached the changing protocols and if they decide to do something about it, then Team India should accept it with honor not do this thing where they blame others.

BCCI with it's bullying tactics is what we all don't like and now I see the same people taking pride in it as power move.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

KL Rahul ruled out of remaining Tests with wrist injury | Cricbuzz.com

Another one bites the Dust! Geez! How many players have been injured in this Series from both side?

 

[abhi_jacko]

I think there is too much speculation going on based on very minimal facts presented. Today's media though runs on speculations more than facts, so its not at all surprising to see the Aussie and Indian media working in overdrive on this issue. I do not think there is any extra, directed malice from the media towards the Indian contigent.

And of course some former players (Haddin, Symonds) using this limited information to play mind games is expected. The comments from the Aussie MP Ros Bates though is unwarranted, unless the govt actually acknowledges publicly that there has been a breach by the team and presents details of the severity of it. Making such statements (Don't come) is of no use in such situations. Both the teams are very lucky to be playing the matches, so lets not pretend that the burden of this privelege lies only on the Indian team.

The Indian management needs to step up their game and be very transparent about this issue. IF there is a breach, punishments should be handed out.

 

[abhi_jacko]

I thought the same thing yesterday when I read this! This "Gabba boycott" is a retaliation from India to the Aussies/Aussie media blow up of the bio bubble breach by Indian players.

Also read a quote on Cricbuzz (not sure if official) that quotes Indian team as saying "if fans can come to the stadium, dont ask us to quarantine. Stop treating us as animals in a zoo". This is a valid statement. What infection are the players going to spread, that the fans won't spread? They will follow the social distancing protocols and must be allowed to go out. There is no video of an Indian player hugging a fan or anything. A fan just paid a bill and got a handshake. Maybe the player then washed his hands and didn't touch his face.

This is a very unique situation and cant blame the players much. When the country is safe enough to let people into stadiums for so long, the players must feel frustrated that they're being treated differently

This is a fair point indeed. I would have fully supported the Aussie side of the story on this breach if not for the massive crowd that was there in the stadium with zero social distancing and no one wearing masks. There even was an interruption with litter/wrappers from spectators flying around the ground - which given the situation could be quite dangerous. If the situation has changed, obviously the team will have to adapt and 'get on with it'. But requesting to play matches in a city where the COVID situation is better is not unreasonable either. There is a reason, IPL was moved out of India and restricted to 3 venues only. Both the cricket teams as well as the logistics team need to be equally flexible in such situations - cannot be a one way street

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

So KL Rahul is injured and out of the tour. Does this mean they are trying to clean up space so that Rohit Sharma can open? How many injuries have we had. Also I hope its not a serious one cause we have the England test series coming up.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

So KL Rahul is injured and out of the tour. Does this mean they are trying to clean up space so that Rohit Sharma can open? How many injuries have we had. Also I hope its not a serious one cause we have the England test series coming up.

I will not put it past this team management to fake an injury to relieve pressure on selection. Specially considering the heat they are under at the moment.

 

[SaiSrini]

Indian Players Involved In More Possible Covid Protocol Violations: Report | Cricket News

So now Virat Kohli, Hardik Pandya are being investigated as well for visiting a baby store during the limited over series. Again, I have stated this before and will state this again that if the protocols were breached, fine them, penalize them even though they have tested negative. Also its completely nonsense that the Australian media is cooking this up to play mind games. Come on guys, the photo about the bill getting paid was posted by an Indian on twitter. Also more then the players, I would penalize the management for allowing them to go out IF and a big IF they were not allowed to go out.

On the Brisbane test match, looks like one thing was said before the series and now another is being said. If Indian team does not want to stay in hard quarantine and if it was not what was mentioned in the MOU, they have all the rights to not go to Brisbane and play. Nathan Lyon with his nonsense of pull up your socks and play has no clue on what Indian players have gone through with the bio bubble and all since the IPL started while he was at home watching matches. So no, if the team does not want to be in the hard quarantine because it was not what was said, they are free to make the decision.

On the other hand, if there is something in the MOU that states about following updated rules and regulations from the government, India has to go to Brisbane, follow the countries rules and regulations and pull up their socks, no two way about that.

On the match, I have a feeling we are due for Warner Smith bashing. India to lose by an innings and 30 runs perhaps.

Good you brought this up!!

To the sarcastic jibers in this forum - do you need further proof to see what the Aussie media is trying to do? Kohli and Pandya's baby store visit was way back in early December 2020. And we are now in January 2021. The Aussies are now bringing up an old visit to blow up the issue further and play mental disintegration tactics with India. Little have they understood that this Steve Waugh coined 'mental disintegration' trend died in 2001 when Saurav Ganguly took over and moulded a new India that has only grown on from there and stand at a place in world cricket right now where such tactics only fuel them harder and further.

I will not put it past this team management to fake an injury to relieve pressure on selection. Specially considering the heat they are under at the moment.

Something's very wrong. KLR is ruled out for a wrist sprain? Did they think its insulting to keep a player like KLR on the bench for the entire series?

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Something's very wrong. KLR is ruled out for a wrist sprain? Did they think its insulting to keep a player like KLR on the bench for the entire series?

Maybe he was gearing up for the next match and he got injured. Who knows?

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

Now we are talking, India Australia series always had this mental games being played off the field. This series had been too good. With all this off field talks, I feel we now have the Australia India series we have grown up with. Cannot wait for 7th (6th in US) for this match to begin. If Kohli was around, we would have seen a charged up Indian side but with Rahane leading the side, we will see a more calmer Indian side who will let their performance talk.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Just hope our boys land home safe. Any update from the Hermes?

 

[Aalay]

Covid is not magic that once you test negative you can't get it. There's a distance between the crowd and players, but players going out are at risk of exposure and if they catch it they bring it back to all the other players.

Nobody is denying this. The five players in question here were sitting outside when they visited the restaurant which they are allowed to do. However, they moved indoors due to rain which was definitely a mistake by them. Not the part of them moving inside in the rain, but them being in a confined space with other people around them. This resulted in them being asked to isolate, which is the right thing to do. However, they got tested after this incident before they left for Sydney in which they all tested negative.

When the series started, majority of the states were nearly covid free and hence the rules were laxed but after that there has been a greater increase in cases in Sydney and Melbourne which lead to other states changing their rules regarding travelling.

Yes, the situation has changed since India has arrived in Australia, and they have had more cases. Well, then why are they forcing them to travel to Brisbane for the 4th test and put the players at even more risk? Since both teams are already in Sydney, just finish the series in Sydney. Reducing travelling is only going to lower the chances of players being infected.

It's simple if the country deems fit that Team India has breached the changing protocols and if they decide to do something about it, then Team India should accept it with honor not do this thing where they blame others.

No one is blaming anyone here. The team management is simply stating that rather than travelling to Brisbane, where they have changed the quarantine protocols and being part of another quarantine, they should just play both the tests in Sydney.

If you see the recently announced itinerary for England’s tour of India, there are only three venues that will host 4 test matches, 5 T20s and 3 ODIs.

BCCI with it's bullying tactics is what we all don't like and now I see the same people taking pride in it as power move.

It's always amusing to me when people bring up BCCI in a conversation like this. The truth is BCCI hasn't got involved so far in this issue and all the messages have been coming from the team management. We all know what is going to happen if BCCI actually gets involved in this. If BCCI really wants to use its "bullying tactics", Australia will not get the 4th test in this series. The series would end after the third test match. Also, making statements like "If the Indians don’t want to play by the rules, don’t come,” will not help here. At the end of the day, the team is there is entertain the fans, and as a host, if you are going to give out statements like the one mentioned above, it will only make matters worse. The team has followed all the protocols so far, with one slip up by those 5 players for which they were isolated. If India didn't want to play by the rules, they would have never visited the country. Rohit Sharma was quarantined for the last 2 weeks to play the last 2 test matches here in Australia.