Mario Puzo mafia - Endgame (Yudi, Iri, Swirler, Smurf and Manly win)

[Papa_Smurf]

I've seen nothing to change my mind about Zhuorb.

Lynch: Zhuorb

 

[BKB1991]

Remind me again, why we going for Zhuorb? Have never played with him so I cant say if hes acting differently or anything..

 

[barmyarmy]

Vote count

akshaychauhan - 1 (Zhuorb)
Zhuorb - 2 (iridescentt, Papa Smurf)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

 

[Manly]

I don't seem to be improving much, when it comes to Mafia games. I'm going to have to wait and see what everyone thinks, before making a decision on who I should lynch.

Then why not get into a spectator QT and discuss with more experienced players what they see going on and learn from them? I'm not the best mafia player but I've not come straight out and said "I'm ???? I'll wait for a bandwagon to start."
FoS

This game is lacking some activity. We haven't had much posts. I keep my lynch on akshaychauhan.

Then challenge people's opinions! Say (for example) "Papa Smurf, what do you think of Themer's play so far?" Right now you're posting for the sake of posting and it's frustrating because I'm on a post limitation and can't do a thing to generate any debate at all.

Zhuorb, tell me how you are reading treva's (lack of) activity? Or maybe Tom's? (Highlander999)

Actually gets sort of even, since every faction has lost one member now.

There are some contradictions I noticed, I'll post my views on 'em.

Para 1 - Smurf kill by one of the families, preferably the Corleone. I don't understand the line 'if he's not with us, he must be against us'. After all, Smurf was with the Corleone family.

Para 2 - Hedger killed by....whom? The paragraph implies that he belonged to his killer's families, and he was waiting to be recruited. But according to the para 1 interpretation, it must actually be the Barzini family killing him (assuming the other had only one kill). Was Smurf killed by Barzini, not Corleone? Or the Corleone had two kills?

Para 3 - A recruitment by the Barzini family, and also shows that Radonx's role was not unimportant to an extent.

Para 4 - Not sure. It is someone doing the job for someone else, can't say anything else.

Para 5 - The tracker/watcher from last night.

Para 6 - Unimportant. But this is probably the Barzini godfather.

Don't think most of the people have posted today, and of course akshaychauhan stands out as he hadn't posted on Day 1 either. I don't have much to rely upon, but I took a look back and noticed this post:


Also find some of Zhuorb's mistakes intentional, but I may be reading too much into it.

Largely agree with this, but what are your arguments for and against Zhuorb's mistakes? Ie what makes you think they are deliberate and what makes you think they aren't?

The lynch on akshaychauhan has no real premise to it, Zhuorb, come on. Why even come up with such lynch in the first place? Might as well lynch you for your mishap in interpretation and User2010 for the subtle agreement manner in which he lynched akshay, too.

Is it just me or whoever has the role of the watcher seems to be doing a great job. /sarcasm

I'd suggest lynching someone for inactivity is generally a bad move on the face of it, despite how frustrating it is having to carry someone.

treva I want more posts from you mate, you're always quiet when you're mafia FoS

Interesting discussion going on here, carry on

Probably the crappiest post of the entire game to date, can you actually contribute something to discussion rather than just commenting on it.

There seems to be a connection between Zhuorb & User2010, which is either good or bad. Not just because they both agreed to lynch akshaychauhan, but also because earlier on User2010 followed what Zhuorb did as well. Which is a bit suspicious.

There's a few people we haven't heard from today: akshaychauhan, treva & MaD. Hopefully we hear from them soon, so we can get a clearer view of everything.

I'd noticed something along similar lines, that's something to keep a closer eye on.

Varun, that was actually an innocent post. As I said, I really don't have much any knowledge about the theme. So, maybe you're reading a bit too much into it.

To all others who think I'm following Zhuorb - I feel I clearly posted my reason to lynch Akshay. I didn't know whether I'd on today so didn't want my vote to go waste. Also, an inactive player is eqaully dangerous as a mafia is.

Swirler, I don't get what you mean by me following Zhuorb early on..

Disagree, it's not necessarily dangerous, as I've said previously, more an annoyance. However, it gets more critical as the game goes on to weed out the inactives.

Any substance behind that FOS or just a blatant 'You're the one trying to get the discussion going, so we lynch you?'
Apart, from that, akshaychauhan has not even done anything about those two lynches. He hasn't even tried to defend himself. Even if he is a vanilla town, barmyarmy must have contacted a replacement for him, as inactive games dont do good. Intentional inactivity is one thing I suspect him of doing.

The mafia (especially when it's barmyarmy tend to be the ones leading the discussion, so it's not such a big deal to lynch someone who's active.

Just speeding things along the way here, don't mind me.

Lynch: Zhuorb

Justification?

Remind me again, why we going for Zhuorb? Have never played with him so I cant say if hes acting differently or anything..

Precisely, he's throwing out some cryptic posts, but that may just be his general play (assbackwards).

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So as I'm sure you guys can appreciate this post restriction is the worst. The lack of activity in this game has been crushingly bad, the set-up is something new and we should be all over the posts, trying to work out what's new and how to play with the potential of more than one mafia team working together to win.

The amount of 'filler posts', those that don't contribute anything, is appalling, can we please get some well-informed discussion going? Someone will eventually crack and give the game away.

As with Day 1 I will have to vote now, and I'm going.............

Lynch: treva

 

[Themer]

Intentional inactivity is one thing I suspect him of doing.

This was his first game and I think you're overthinking things while trying to force the game.

Lynch : Zhuorb

Jumping on the bandwagon as there's nothing substantial been said yet and he's the only person to have made me suspicious.

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I'm interested to know the reasons behind Ben's lynch there as well though I guess that'll have to wait till tomorrow now with his restrictions

 

[pcfan123]

Going after Zhurb seems a bit desperate. at least he took a stab at someone and tried to get some convo going.

Interested in why Ben is going after Treva, lets hear more on that.

 

[BKB1991]

Well hes got a post restriction and surely if there was a significant reason behind going for Treva, he would have mentioned in the post itself. Probably pointing out Treva has just posted 'bare posts' nothing constructive ie.

Zhuorb seems to be the popular vote, but I am not convinced why we are going for him in the first place. Ideally those who have lynched can provide a more constructive answer than just gut feeling unless you are all bandwagoning? It would be better if those suspecting him quote him to provide us exactly your reasons.

 

[ved_]

And now the bandwagon grows on me. Wow. Smurf is just continuing his vote from last day. I'm interested in iridescentt's vote on me. He is one person I think that doesn't want to post too much and reveal himself, yet post something and not look like a lurker. Manly, my lynch on akshaychauhan was just because he had never said something on day 1 either.He suddenly started posting as soon asI pressure voted him. It looked like he was trying to hurry off the lynch from him. One more thing I had to say is that he tried to say that he was a new player. Apart from that, I think everyone is going on the 'easy' lynch over here. C'mon guys, do something better.On treva and Highlander's inavailability, I didn't say that they weren't mafia. You have to be suspicious of everyone .Just that they had posted on day 1, whereas akshay hadn't done a thing at all. treva and Highlander have to talk. Unlynching akshay for the replacement.
Unlynch:akshaychauhan

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FOS:treva and Highlander for inactivity

 

[Gaurav_7]

I don't know why people are still moaning about me following Zhuorb. Yudi, I've posted about twice I think and provided what were the actual reasons, so please go and read.

With the wagon on Zhuorb growing, I noticed the following things -

Remind me again, why we going for Zhuorb? Have never played with him so I cant say if hes acting differently or anything..

Zhuorb seems to be the popular vote, but I am not convinced why we are going for him in the first place. Ideally those who have lynched can provide a more constructive answer than just gut feeling unless you are all bandwagoning? It would be better if those suspecting him quote him to provide us exactly your reasons.

Anybody see a bit of a subtle defense there?

FOS : BKB, Zhuorb

 

[Haarithan]

I'm sure hedger's happy now

A recruition can't be good.

Okay so in the first line, the Corleone family kill smurf and the second line implies that he wanted to join them, so a bad move by the Corleone's.

I think the Barzini's killed hedger, but the last line indicates something else, pretty confusing.

Anyway, we don't really need to rely on the writeup.

Hmm the write-up clearly suggests the Corleones killed both Smurf and Hedger, so I'd like to know how you feel the Barzinis killed Hedger instead? I'm probably looking too much into this, but hey, it could easily be a mafia slip up from MaD's part as well.

FoS: MaD, treva, Highlander999

The last two FoS's for obvious reasons.

 

[Varun]

Largely agree with this, but what are your arguments for and against Zhuorb's mistakes? Ie what makes you think they are deliberate and what makes you think they aren't?

Can't point to anything in particular really, he seems smart enough a player to not mistake on obvious interpretations; au contraire he has. But then again, I might be reading too much into the gameplay of a player who's playing virtually for the first time here.

Interesting that Papa Smurf has seen nothing to change his mind about Zhuorb while he hasn't yet given any reason for his lynch. And then, I'm still unsure about User, but in his case time will tell.

 

[BKB1991]

I don't know why people are still moaning about me following Zhuorb. Yudi, I've posted about twice I think and provided what were the actual reasons, so please go and read.

With the wagon on Zhuorb growing, I noticed the following things -


Anybody see a bit of a subtle defense there?

FOS : BKB, Zhuorb

I am sorry I dont like to simply follow the bandwagon, I need to know why, which no one has answered btw.

 

[barmyarmy]

I don't know. If there was a bit more bandwagoning going on this game might be moving a bit faster

Vote count

Zhuorb - 3 (iridescentt, Papa Smurf, Themer)
Treva - 1 (Manly)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

 

[Themer]

I am sorry I dont like to simply follow the bandwagon, I need to know why, which no one has answered btw.

Bandwagons are fun. I'm unbelievably happy after lynching him.

 

[ved_]

So basically with that post above, you mean to say you have jumped on the bandwagon with no legitimate reason at all? That's a very good reason to lynch me, bro.
Lynch:Highlander999
We can get either for the two inactive people, though I would like to have Highlander first.