Overrated cricketers

[Fenil]

Mohd. Hafeez as a bowler. He's no way near to the number 2 ranking that he's got. He is a decent bowler probably someone like Shoaib Malik not more than that.

 

[Aoun13]

Mohd. Hafeez as a bowler. He's no way near to the number 2 ranking that he's got. He is a decent bowler probably someone like Shoaib Malik not more than that.

LOL! Better to look at the stats for Hafeez in last 12 months....

Sehwag is an obvious choice along with Dilshan.

 

[Gurjot95]

Sehwag...Overrated by Indians and Underrated by others.

/End Sehwag Discussion

 

[Addy]

Mohd. Hafeez as a bowler. He's no way near to the number 2 ranking that he's got. He is a decent bowler probably someone like Shoaib Malik not more than that.

You think he's over-rated and now you, yourself under-rating him Lol

 

[aayush93]

LOL! Better to look at the stats for Hafeez in last 12 months....

Sehwag is an obvious choice along with Dilshan.

Sehwag has avg of 90 against Pak. 3 Double 1 triple hundred with strike rate and Avg of something 90+ in TEST against Pak. I can expect an indian or anyone else saying he is over-rated but not from Pakistan fans.

so when you say look at stats of Hafeez and then i could all say look at Test avg of Sehwag and specially against Pakistan.

In my opinion, hafeez is under-rated bowler. He doesn't have anything special but does his job.

 

[Aoun13]

Sehwag has avg of 90 against Pak. 3 Double 1 triple hundred with strike rate and Avg of something 90+ in TEST against Pak. I can expect an indian or anyone else saying he is over-rated but not from Pakistan fans.

so when you say look at stats of Hafeez and then i could all say look at Test avg of Sehwag and specially against Pakistan.

In my opinion, hafeez is under-rated bowler. He doesn't have anything special but does his job.

What a stupid argument!
Average of 90 against Pakistan doesn't mean he is not over-rated.

 

[aayush93]

What a stupid argument!
Average of 90 against Pakistan doesn't mean he is not over-rated.

Avg of 52 as an Opener doesn't Say he is overrated. there are not many batsman in the world who averages more than him. about strike rate i won't even talk. I think in world cricket right now there is no opener who averages more than him.

so how is he over-rated ?

 

[Aoun13]

Avg of 52 as an Opener doesn't Say he is overrated. there are not many batsman in the world who averages more than him. about strike rate i won't even talk. I think in world cricket right now there is no opener who averages more than him.

so how is he over-rated ?

Average in Australia, England and Newzealand and in 2nd innings describe every thing. I am not saying he is a bad player or not worthy to play for India but I am saying he is over-rated and by over-rated it means that it usually get much more praise and hype then he should get compare to other Indian batsmen.

 

[aayush93]

Average in Australia, England and Newzealand and in 2nd innings describe every thing. I am not saying he is a bad player or not worthy to play for India but I am saying he is over-rated and by over-rated it means that it usually get much more praise and hype then he should get compare to other Indian batsmen.

Sachin gets more hype than Anybody else in India. then it is Sehwag. yes i agree with you Dravid should be the next but then both are completely different player. One has played most balls in test matches and other has All Time Best Strike Rate in test matches.

Avg against Australia in Aus is 60 (Test). (more than sachin and dravid)

In New Zealand in test matches he avg 20 but in ODI's it is 54. (more than any other indian batsman.)

Avg against Pak in pakistan is 91 (test). (more than anyone else)

In SA, even dravid Avg 29 and his avg is 25. (Test Matches)

In Eng, Dravid avg is 68 and sehwag is 30 but in SL dravid avg is 32 and sehwag avg is 69.

Sehwag Avg could have been more than Sachin if he didn't avg 35 against ban and 40 against Zim.

yes Sehwag is not good in 2 innings, but when he fires in First innings then india doesn't get much total in 2 innings. (14-15 150+ scores)
In recent times he has been the guy who has helped to chase 200+ scores in test matches by scoring quick fire 50. (387 chase against Eng, where he scored 87 in 60 balls and first Test against WI)


Everyone has its own view and if you think sehwag is over-rated after having as good as stats like any other India batsman or any other team, then you should be ready to accept When people say Hafeez (or any other player which you like) is over-rated, even if they have good stats.

 

[BKB1991]

Hafeez as a bowler may be a touch too overrated to be regarded as the second best bowler. Probably a solid top 10, but hes basically torn Bangladesh apart, and on helpful pitches.

 

[Hybrid]

Ya completely agree. Even Murali is over-rated as many consider him better than warne because Murali stats are better than Warne. Murali played most of his test matches at home and specially in kandy. With Murali, there was only vaas who used to take wicket, so murali got more chance to take wickets whereas with warne there was mcgrath, Gillespie, Lee.

Yet when you bring teammates into argument you could say that Murali had to deal with more pressure since he had lesser support.

I rate Warne higher than Murali but only because of home and away records and minnows. I would never use teammates to justify my rating because its a flawed logic. If you have better teammates you have to deal with them competing with you for more wickets/runs and if you have lesser teammates you have to deal with more pressure.

In My view Saqlain was the best off-spinner and just because of him off-spinner got Special delivery called Doosra.
According to bevan, Saqlain was the most difficult bowler he has ever faced.

Bevan was a pretty crap test player. You have to be pretty biased to at least not rate Murali as the best off spinner. Saqlain above Murali is just....WRONG.

 

[aayush93]

Bevan was a pretty crap test player. You have to be pretty biased to at least not rate Murali as the best off spinner. Saqlain above Murali is just....WRONG.

well i given Bevan words for ODI and his four consecutive 5 wicket haul innings against India is quite a achievement which neither Murali achieved or Warne.

Saqlain played less test matches, due to all other things off the field he ruined his career. So i can't say much but he always looked me far more dangerous bowler than Murali. During saqlain time, Murali didn't know how to bowl doosra.
Just see the stats of Murali before 2000 (during this year he learned doosra) and after 2000 you will find huge differences. So before 2000, it was saqlain who was leading off spinner and after 2000 murali all the way but saqlain didn't played much cricket after that.

 

[puddleduck]

Sort of like rating George Best as better than Pele, or Maradona. It basically doesn't work, because in spite of whether they showed over a year or two that they could have been, over a prolonged and sustained career, they weren't.

Wow, that was easy

 

[aayush93]

Sort of like rating George Best as better than Pele, or Maradona. It basically doesn't work, because in spite of whether they showed over a year or two that they could have been, over a prolonged and sustained career, they weren't.

Wow, that was easy

 

[Gurjot95]

Yay, Sehwag is Overrated, definately..Sure!