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Technically Morkel is a lot better than Steyn.
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Technically Morkel is a lot better than Steyn.
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Yes, and he has managed to return in the team only on the base of his performance. He is the highest wicket taker so far his domestic season with 21 wickets at an average of 14.14. Coming back to your (aayush) point, Irfan Pathan was never ever regarded as a genuine pace bowler so there's no point is saying he had no pace because he was always a swing bowler and never a bowler who generates pace.
Jaywardene is a class act and a treat to watch. I don't think a batsman who holds the record of most runs in an innings by a right hander can be told as overrated.
Punter is not a over-rated guy again. He is one of the best batsmen Australia ever had. At one point of time, Ponting was ahead of Tendulkar in terms of getting centuries in lesser (test) matches but then Sachin's form picked up and Ponting had a disastrous run of form but as they say, form is temporary but class is permanent!
Please don't comment if you don't have any knowledge about domestic cricket in Cheteshwar Pujara's case. He made it to the team with 3 triple centuries in one month and one or two OD centuries for Saurashtra and India A respectively. How many manage to do that?
As far as Morne Morkel is concerned, I know most might not agree with me but I've watched Steyn and Morne bowling and what I feel is Steyn has pace but is not consistently fast. His pace is around 138 kmph most of the time and doesn't have much bounce while Morne is a tall guy and his ability to produce extra bounce even from good length region is a great asset. His pace is also consistently around 142kmph+. Honestly, if I had to face both Steyn and Morne, I'd have more trouble facing Morne than Steyn because one can tackle the pace but generally not the extra bounce.
Sedition
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I didn't check all their birth places, but I'm pretty sure none of them are Australian.
He basically hasn't played in India. He played 2 tests nearly 4 years ago shortly after getting into the side.
Yes. The great steve waugh called it the final frontier. Unless you prove your skills consistently in the India (or atleast in the subcontinent) he is overrated.
Swann's played only 2 tests in the SC! How can you judge him to be overrated then? :/
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I echo this! People have hopes on each and every player to perform well! The way they exhibit it is what makes a person think he is being over-rated or under-rated or whatever! I say neither Sehwag nor Steyn are over rated.And those who feel Sehwag is over-rated, then even Steyn is!
The reason being that if Sehwag becomes over-rated for 'failing' in South Africa (even though he has scored a ton there), then even the same Steyn failed against Sehwag who smashed a triple ton with a strike rate of more than 100 in India.
I am not doubting the talent of Steyn, he indeed is awesome and in no manner over-rated, but I'm just trying to tell that each coin has two sides and it's important to analyze both of them.
And Yudi, people having hopes on Viru are way too greater than people who have hopes on Steyn, which is what makes people think Viru is more overhyped
! But the fact is no one is hyped, since they are being conveyed what people expect from them.--------------------------------------------
And I've read in first post about interviewing Warner instead of a better performer, but unfortunately Jason, all those interviews are based on availability of player, not who performs better. The player who is free when the slot for that particular interview is open will be considered for interview, since neither player nor the broadcaster has to follow a particular RULE or whatsoever, to interview ONLY the person who performs good. The person who performs good will be given MOM and he will be interviewed at the time of post match presentation. Those programs are only for commercializing the show with a new sponsor for that particular event, with which they grab money from the one getting their brand name before the show name! And the way they boast about those players- Yeah, they need to do it so that players would be encouraged.
Who wants someone to start an interview with "David Warner, who contributed a good for nothing 12*, is with us now."? Whatever he might have scored, he should be given fair amount of respect, which will help him not lose his confidence!
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And David Warner is too young to handle test cricket in such a competitive level- make him play against minnows first. 12 FC innings' cannot declare his average for life time, let him play solid 50 FC matches, wherever he is eligible to. That will be a perfect test for him to prove himself if he is fit enough for Australian Test team or not. He has been lucky enough to get into T20 team (successful) and ODI team (partially successful), and similarly, he got into test team(no way successful).
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I don't know about Aussies Channel 9 much, but I myself have seen my local media highlighting VVS Laxman (after his 100th test) to a range which even they didn't do when India won the World Cup. The media read "Sachin Tendulkar laaga BCCI support ledhu-Saurav Ganguly laaga politics support ledhu-Rahul Dravid laaga peru ledhu, sontha aata thone vanda testulu aadina ghanatha Laxman ki chendindi"
Show me any other boasting of any player in this world by MEDIA!
Even VVS Laxman, VVS LAXMAN, got this kind of hype.
Unfortunately the BCCI don't want to schedule enough series there
We should have been playing 3 tests when we were there in October.
exactly. England has played 8 tests match this year. (6 in home and 2 in Aus). where as india has played (8 Away, 3 home).
Next year england will play 9 test matches in subcontinet and india will play 6-8 test matches at home.
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7 at home (3 vs SL, 4 vs Ind). Also, only 1 in OZ (the New year test match in Sydney). Were it not for the dreaded rain, we would have beaten SL 3-0 and 2011 would have read 8-0 for England. Unfortunately, 2011 ends only with a 6-0 scoreline to England. :/
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ya, thats was awesome year for england, pretty similiar to what we have in 2010 where we won 7-8 tests in a year.
But World Cup Win Over shadowed that.
As a Indian Cricket Fan, only test-series win in Aus, SA and ODI Series win in SA are missing, Apart from these we have won everything and luckily i have seen all those series victory for india in last 10 years.
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Paki007
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well the players who play aggresively,risk their wickets that's why they sometimes they perform sometimes they dont so i wont blame them for not being too consistant i think it'll be harsh if you say that they are over rated because people know that they can turn the game at any situation talking about sehwag i think he's among the best of his kind
puddleduck
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Whoever said Dilshan, excellent shout.
Really overrated player. Play a crazy shot, be overrated.
Someone mentioned Flintoff, I actually think he was often underated as a bowler throughout his career. During his peak, pretty much every batsman said he was the toughest bowler they had faced. Whatever his pace readout said, they all said it seemed quicker!
Big shame that injuries eventually took such a toll, but then he hardly led a life of fitness and dedication off the field. Batting, he was always overrated though and suffered in the same way people like Afridi have done, in that people constantly tried to turn them into genuine batsmen, when they were bowling all rounders.
Oh, whoever said Ponting is an idiot haha.
He's right at the end of his career, it's not his fault that no talented Aussie batsmen have arrived to take his place. His career has been phenomenal.
Really overrated player. Play a crazy shot, be overrated.
Someone mentioned Flintoff, I actually think he was often underated as a bowler throughout his career. During his peak, pretty much every batsman said he was the toughest bowler they had faced. Whatever his pace readout said, they all said it seemed quicker!
Big shame that injuries eventually took such a toll, but then he hardly led a life of fitness and dedication off the field. Batting, he was always overrated though and suffered in the same way people like Afridi have done, in that people constantly tried to turn them into genuine batsmen, when they were bowling all rounders.
Oh, whoever said Ponting is an idiot haha.
He's right at the end of his career, it's not his fault that no talented Aussie batsmen have arrived to take his place. His career has been phenomenal.
