Pakistan in England/Scotland 2006

Who are your men of the series? (select one from each team)


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Actually empires duties has already been assigned for some tie. Doctrove will be the umpire for the first three ODI's along with some England umpire and in the next two ODI's it will be Harper.

Also Malik, Akhtar and Rana Naved are back into the squad.
 
andrew_nixon said:
As far as I'm concerned, any England fan who is happy with winning this game in this way should hang their heads in shame. They don't deserve to be called an England fan, and hardly even deserve to be called a cricket fan.
why? as a true fan you'd be happy whatever way england win:p keep your opinion about things like this to yourself you cant call people not english fans when however i can call you a fool:p

FOOL

:p
 
andrew_nixon said:
As far as I'm concerned, any England fan who is happy with winning this game in this way should hang their heads in shame. They don't deserve to be called an England fan, and hardly even deserve to be called a cricket fan.

I'm not happy with the way we 'won', but it's a win and i'm going to accept it as a win because it is officialy so.

It doesn't fill me with pride to 'win' Test in which we were outplayed, but it boosts our rating. Having said that though, i'd much rather us battle out for a draw tomorrow.
 
andrew_nixon said:
As far as I'm concerned, any England fan who is happy with winning this game in this way should hang their heads in shame. They don't deserve to be called an England fan, and hardly even deserve to be called a cricket fan.

Why is that then Andrew ? Its the Pakistani's team fault for not coming back out after tea, and as the rules of the game say, the umpires then have to presume that the team must be forfeiting the game.
 
I'm not happy about the umpire, I care if england win this, what i care is the bad umpiring. :( :( damn i hope we get some KRIKET in the ODI series.

Englishandproud said:
Why is that then Andrew ? Its the Pakistani's team fault for not coming back out after tea, and as the rules of the game say, the umpires then have to presume that the team must be forfeiting the game.
we were ready to come out after the english ECB chairman has talked to Inzi in dressing room, and the umpire where just showing off taking the bails off, did'nt you see our team comming out and the people shouting stuff?

ZexyZahid said:
Doctrove will be the umpire for the first three ODI's along with some England umpire and in the next two ODI's it will be Harper.
thats amazing news (as a pakistani fan).
 
all i can say is why didnt pakistan just come out after tea, they only ot another ball, nothing different to the game, just get the right bowlers on and maybe they would find something that would be good about it, they shouldnt of sat in there changing room doing a short protest, then pakistan would of probaly won the match
 
just a question what if they dont punish the umpire and punish pakistan what could be the punishment. i hope that does not happen because we have no proof of cheating but you never know. pakistan never refused to play they just were going to take a little while
 
I was actually quite hopeful at tea we could get into a position where we could win the game. We had 6 wickets in hand with Chris Read to come and had we added another 180/200 it would have made for a very interesting 4th innings. Pakistan would still have been favourites of course but I thought that England fought really well.
Just to reiterate what I said before, I fully support Pakistan's action in protesting against the decision Hair made but I feel their protest was ill-timed and ill-concieved. It would have been far more effective imo to issue a statement saying how they completely disagreed with Hair's decision and then gone back out there, blown England away and given the paying fans what they had come to see.
Instead we are left with an utterly unsatisfactory result which no-one wanted and no-one will take pride in (and no it won't make any difference when we go to Australia whether we have x or x + 1 points in the World rankings) and a great sense of what might have been if the game had been allowed to run its course.
Regarding the issue in hand I agree with several of the pundits and commentators that if you are going to brand a team cheats you had better have some mighty good evidence. Due to the lack of any TV footage I suspect it will come down to Hair's word against one of the Pakistan players which won't get us any further than we are at the moment.
I'm also not convinced by the statement given by Shaharyar Khan. He said that Pakistan were only making a protest of a few minutes and intended to go out again for the session to restart but it is clear they overdid it as they were actually in the dressing room refusing to go out for over 45 minutes and not the few he claimed. After their initial protest they were told that they must now take the field or forfeit the game and still failed to do so.

Anyhow a real shame for this series and a real shame for cricket.

zub2005 said:
just a question what if they dont punish the umpire and punish pakistan what could be the punishment. i hope that does not happen because we have no proof of cheating but you never know. pakistan never refused to play they just were going to take a little while

A fine and Inzi can be banned for two tests as captain. As for forfeiting the match I don't know what penalty that might carry (aside from the obvious one).
 
that would be total wrong, remember Pakistanis are right behind Inzi ;).
 
how can you ban inzi if he aint did nothing wrong and if his players said they aint done anything i doubt he is going to say they have he will stick by his players
 
zub2005 said:
how can you ban inzi if he aint did nothing wrong and if his players said they aint done anything i doubt he is going to say they have he will stick by his players

Although he may have been falsely accused of ball tampering, he and his team are in trouble because of teh protest that took place. Hopefully Inzi knew what he had coming to him whilst doing this, and accepts his punishment with dignity.
 
Well Pakistan have gave the Match Away, but I think more things should be doen to Hair. A Referee Must Get Punished for making blind Accusations, and Im not saying that he should just Apologize. He's been doing that for 4 Years, Its time for the ICC to not play him in another Test that Includes Asian teams.
 
zub2005 said:
how can you ban inzi if he aint did nothing wrong and if his players said they aint done anything i doubt he is going to say they have he will stick by his players

I'm not saying I would, I'm just saying that that's the possible penalty.

On another note entirely who do people have as men of the series?
For me:
Andrew Strauss - England
Mohammad Yousuf - Pakistan
 
After that the match has been forfeited by Pakistan and England have been awarded the win, only one conclusion can be made, that Hair's comments about the ball tampering and his comments on Pakistan not comming on the field on time are being taken into consideration more seriously as to Pakistan's claims, that the Umpire had biased view. This clearly means that they are accepting Hair's tampering allegation. The match ends in this pathetic way and Hair gets what he wanted. But no matter what Pakistan suffers in both the situations.
 
Hariz said:
After that the match has been forfeited by Pakistan and England have been awarded the win, only one conclusion can be made, that Hair's comments about the ball tampering and his comments on Pakistan not comming on the field on time are being taken into consideration more seriously as to Pakistan's claims, that the Umpire had biased view. This clearly means that they are accepting Hair's tampering allegation. The match ends in this pathetic way and Hair gets what he wanted. But no matter what Pakistan suffers in both the situations.

The two are entirely unrelated. Whether or not Hair was right about the ball tampering doesn't affect Pakistan forfeiting the match by refusing to come out after tea.
 

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