Pakistan in England/Scotland 2006

[barmyarmy]

I just heard that Fletcher has accused Asif of tampering, now England are involved as well...

this isnt getting pretty.

Once again... Source?

 

[ali_ed2001]

I suppose Inzi could be banned for even more matches "IF" the proove and ball tampering occurred.

But since Pakistans next opponents are Zimbabwe , it not really gonna hurt them.

next are westindies...zimbabwe dont play tests anymore..and we're not playing odi's with them..

but still it wont hurt as much against windies either, we'll be at home..

Once again... Source?

from the forums on pakpasion.net ..

it was on sky sports news.

 

[barmyarmy]

Can't see anything on the Telegraph website which is where the thread said the story was coming from. Nor on the Skysports one. Will have to wait and see.

 

[s2sschan]

I just heard that Fletcher has accused Asif of tampering, now England are involved as well...

According to Rameez Raja, it was Fletcher who went up to Hair a day earlier and asked him to watch the ball after it started reversing.

According to Afridi, you just can't get reverse swing without "making the ball".

My take on ball tampering is that everybody does it, nobody wants to admit it, and nobody wants to permit it.

It's like Chucking, nobody wants to talk about it. Some get away with it, some get singled out.

 

[BigCrickNan]

It's like Chucking, nobody wants to talk about it.

Ye I agree with that, no commentators say the word chuck. They just say for example "his action is awkward" or something. I think i'm the only one on the forum who will go on a rant about chuckers/chucking.

 

[barmyarmy]

I have Sky Sports News on now and they're promising to talk about the cricket after the ad break. Apparently tomorrows telegraph has "Asif accused" on the back page.

 

[ali_ed2001]

Can't see anything on the Telegraph website which is where the thread said the story was coming from. Nor on the Skysports one. Will have to wait and see.

it was on sky sports in "whats in the papers tomorrow" thing...and it said Asif Accused

 

[irottev]

This is just soo messy.

I really don't see how the ICC could possibly keep an umpire surrounded by soo much contrivercy.

Hes a bad umpire anyway, out of all of them he makes some bad decisions.

 

[ali_ed2001]

This is just soo messy.

I really don't see how the ICC could possibly keep an umpire surrounded by soo much contrivercy.

Hes a bad umpire anyway, out of all of them he makes some bad decisions.

make that a LOT of bad decisions..

 

[BigCrickNan]

The ICC totallly suck. First of all they said they couldn't do anything about the game just after tea on sunday. which they should have and they won't do anything about the umpire who knows as much about cricket as Mark Nicholas.

 

[irottev]

The Pakistan team wern't given much time at all to come out.

5:25 the covers came off and the umpires went back out.

They spoke to the MATCH REFEREE and agreed to come out at 5:27. Only three minutes later which it would have taken to get your gear on they came out.

3 minutes. And only 5 minutes since the covers came off. That is not a decent amount of time for Hair to judge whether they forfiet or not. Especailly when they verbally agreed with the match referee to go out. The match referee and Pakistan team agreed to continue with the game Match referee has the say. Now the umpires refuse to go on. They are not doing their job and have gone against the match referee.

Hair is 100% in the fault.

 

[JamesyJames3]

I have Sky Sports News on now and they're promising to talk about the cricket after the ad break. Apparently tomorrows telegraph has "Asif accused" on the back page.

That is correct, I have had sky sports news on for about 3 hours now while playing fm2006 and getting damn sick of the ball tampering talk. It makes sense that Asif was accused because during the game Hair turns around and points to his eye while watching Asif with the ball.

 

[scorpion_rulezz]

come on guys its an old interview & it aint real for sure as no one in Pakistan know about this sort of thing said by Afridi.Indian media is just trying to fire up things using an old interview & that is not real,if he had said something like that he would have been in the news in the month of Feb 2006,Havent heard a single word about this.Ff Afridi would have said that,it would have created a mess in our cricket history! Afridi cant commit suicide by saying that

 

[barmyarmy]

come on guys its an old interview & it aint real for sure as no one in Pakistan know about this sort of thing said by Afridi.Indian media is just trying to fire up things using an old interview & that is not real if he had said something like that he would have been in the news in the month of Feb havent heard a single word about this.if afridi would have said that,it wouldd have created a mess in our cricket history!Afridi cant commit suicide by saying that

We've moved on to Fletcher accusing Asif now

Backpages as seen by me on Sky Sports News:

"Asif Accused" - Daily Mail
"Fletcher caught up row over ball tampering" - Independant (link)
"England Triggered Ball Row" - Daily Telegraph

Looks like the Proverbial is going to hit the fan tomorrow...

 

[irottev]

Here goes an New Zealand article. From xtramsn news.

Darrell Hair, the burly Australian at the centre of the ball tampering row which led to Pakistan forfeiting the fourth test against England, has endured a fraught relationship with Asian teams throughout his 14 years as a test umpire.

Hair, 53, a former fast bowler in Sydney grade cricket, no-balled Sri Lanka off spinner Muttiah Muralitharan seven times for throwing in three overs on the opening day of the second test against Australia in Melbourne in 1995.

Sri Lanka captain Arjuna Ranatunga responded by leading his team off the field.

When they finally returned, Ranatunga switched Muralitharan to the other end where he was not called by Steve Dunne. Hair received death threats and did not stand in the 1996 World Cup in India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

Hair was robustly unrepentant in his 1998 autobiography "Decision Maker" in which he said the Sri Lankan's action was "diabolical" and added he was prepared to call him again.

In the following year the India team in England were unhappy at some of his decisions and three years later Hair had an altercation with then India coach Kapil Dev during a match against New South Wales.

He also no-balled part-time Zimbabwe left-armer Grant Flower three times for throwing in 2000 and the controversies must have contributed to the International Cricket Council's (ICC) decision to leave him off their initial elite umpires' panel in 2002.

In 2004 Hair and fellow umpire Billy Bowden reported Pakistan fast bowler Shabbir Ahmed for a suspect bowling action.

Controversy involving Pakistan flared again late last year in the second test against England at Faisalabad, when Hair called a dead ball because Salman Butt had run on the pitch.

After two earlier incidents involving the Australian, coupled with anger at what the Pakistan team considered Hair's officiousness, the team management reported their concerns to the ICC.

Hair's appointment this year for the England home tests against Sri Lanka and Pakistan would have dismayed the respective teams.

Sri Lanka felt he denied them several clear-cut lbw appeals when Muralitharan was bowling.

Pakistan were incensed when Kevin Pietersen was given not out after what appeared to be a big inside edge to wicketkeeper Kamal Akram in the third test at Headingley. Pietersen went on to score 135, laying the basis for England's series-winning victory.

Sunday's furore, when Hair penalised Pakistan five runs and ordered a ball change, was the final straw for Pakistan who were adjudged to have forfeited the match when they failed to take the field in time after tea.

Hair, who has officiated in 76 tests and 124 one-day internationals, is the fourth most experienced umpire ever behind Steve Bucknor (West Indies), David Shepherd (England) and Rudi Koertzen (South Africa). Whether he adds to those tallies may now be out his hands.