Pakistan in England/Scotland 2006

[Stephen Bailey]

As far as I'm concerned, I'm trying to talk this out in a reasonable matter but the English fans have just jumped on me for calling Pietersen a cheat...

Not at all, it's the way you went about that was problem.

Anyway, if Pakistan are to have any hope in this match, they'll need to bowl a lot better tomorrow morning and in the second innings than they have today. As unlucky as they were, you are asking for trouble when you bowl consistantly short and wide to players like Strauss, Trescothick, Bell and Pietersen, you're going to go for runs!

 

[barmyarmy]

Wonderful attitude, Mr Nixon. Your post seems to suggest that you lot are ganging up against me and trying to label me an idiot. Just ignore me, right? Instead of posting a good counter-agrument?

There are several counter-arguements but as I said we can't really prove much either way without the footage and, as irrotev says, if there is a case to answer I'm sure the match referee (a Sri Lankan by the way) will see that it is done.

 

[andrew_nixon]

I am calm...It's not like I am going about screaming and shouting. I want this to be talked out in a mature way...
Although the attitude of some of the Mods doesn't seem very mature at all.
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As far as I'm concerned, I'm trying to talk this out in a reasonable matter but the English fans have just jumped on me for calling Pietersen a cheat...

1. Throwing around accusations of racism without evidence, calling a player "Cheatersen" is neither mature nor reasonable.
2. Please indicate which law of the game Pietersen broke.

 

[The Blazer]

Given some of your comments, idiot isn't such a bad idea for a label. In case you havn't realised, he has counter-argued.

Wow. Shows how mature you are. Label me an idiot then...I will just laugh and ask why? All my posts have been written in good, structured English. I have made accusations, yes, but not without reason. Forgive me though, I shouldn't try arguing here, I can't win against such a majority!

 

[andrew_nixon]

The evidence against Darryl and Cheatersen is too great.

You say you want to talk about it in a reasonable manner yet you continue to childishly insult Pietersen.

Anyway please provide us with your clear evidence of the following.

1. Darryl Hair is a racist.
2. Kevin Pietersen cheated, fully indicating which law he broke. We know from the footage that he tapped his thigh after given not out, so it obviously isn't that.

 

[The Blazer]

1. Throwing around accusations of racism without evidence, calling a player "Cheatersen" is neither mature nor reasonable.
2. Please indicate which law of the game Pietersen broke.

Here we go again. Please show me in which post I stated, "Pietersen/Cheatersen broke a law." I have labeled him a cheat, yes, but in the sense that he should have walked when he didn't and that he tried to influence and umpire's decision.

Oh, and by the way- Trying to influence an umpire's decision is against the laws of the game.

 

[barmyarmy]

Can we stick to the issue in hand please and not get personal about it.

@The Blazer - You may have read this already but, if not, worth a read. Summary; Hair is highly incompetent but no mention of KP cheating.

 

[JamesyJames3]

Dear Mr Blazer, to be honest, you deserve to be ganged up on. Your initial comments werte disgraceful and I would be suprised if any of the proper cricket fans of Pakistan agreed with you completelly.

You are making acusations without any REAL evidence and are generally fabricating events of today's play at Headingly.

So, take 10 minutes nap time, and comeback when you have something constructive, and well though out to say, also a tad a cricketing knowledge might help if you have any saved up in there.

Yours Truely

JJ3

 

[evertonfan]

Here we go again. Please show me in which post I stated, "Pietersen/Cheatersen broke a law." I have labeled him a cheat, yes, but in the sense that he should have walked when he didn't and that he tried to influence and umpire's decision.

Oh, and by the way- Trying to influence an umpire's decision is against the laws of the game.

That doesn't stop Inamam doing it though does it?

 

[andrew_nixon]

I have labeled him a cheat, yes, but in the sense that he should have walked when he didn't and that he tried to influence and umpire's decision.

Not walking is not cheating.

Oh, and by the way- Trying to influence an umpire's decision is against the laws of the game.

Agreed. And Pietersen did not try to influence the umpires decision.

 

[The Blazer]

You say you want to talk about it in a reasonable manner yet you continue to childishly insult Pietersen.

Anyway please provide us with your clear evidence of the following.

1. Darryl Hair is a racist.
2. Kevin Pietersen cheated, fully indicating which law he broke. We know from the footage that he tapped his thigh after given not out, so it obviously isn't that.

Childishly insult Pietersen! Great one, sir. Obviously ignorance is bliss. Pietersen has been talked about all day today in the Pakistani cricket community, and the name 'Cheatersen' is derserved. Obviously English fans are insulted by this. But do you not think I am insulted when you repeatedly keep calling Afridi a big cheat? True, he tampered a pitch, but for goodness sake he apologised so many times! What more do you want?

Oh, and England are completely innocent are they? They have never cheated before? Need I remind you of Atheron and the little matter of 'dirt in the pocket'? There are countless others as well, but we are drifting away from the topic here.

1. Darryl has been biased against Pakistan countless times before. Countless matches!
2. Read my posts above.

 

[evertonfan]

Childishly insult Pietersen! Great one, sir. Obviously ignorance is bliss. Pietersen has been talked about all day today in the Pakistani cricket community, and the name 'Cheatersen' is derserved. Obviously English fans are insulted by this. But do you not think I am insulted when you repeatedly keep calling Afridi a big cheat? True, he tampered a pitch, but for goodness sake he apologised so many times! What more do you want?

Oh, and England are completely innocent are they? They have never cheated before? Need I remind you of Atheron and the little matter of 'dirt in the pocket'? There are countless others as well, but we are drifting away from the topic here.

1. Darryl has been biased against Pakistan countless times before. Countless matches!
2. Read my posts above.

Yes Atherton cheated, he has apologised for this before, so why are you defending Afridi and having a go at Atherton?

And you still havn't provided evidence of Darly Hair being biased.

 

[The Blazer]

Dear Mr Blazer, to be honest, you deserve to be ganged up on. Your initial comments werte disgraceful and I would be suprised if any of the proper cricket fans of Pakistan agreed with you completelly.

You are making acusations without any REAL evidence and are generally fabricating events of today's play at Headingly.

So, take 10 minutes nap time, and comeback when you have something constructive, and well though out to say, also a tad a cricketing knowledge might help if you have any saved up in there.

Yours Truely

JJ3

Sir, you are continously trying to put me down here. Do you want me to post the link for Pakistan website I mentioned? Oh wait, I won't get done for advertising will I? Look at the threads on this website! Countless fans share my views! Also, I don't understand why you are being so personal here- Saying I am not posting anything constructive and that I have no cricket knowledge whatsoever? Have I personally attacked you? Or anyone else?

 

[andrew_nixon]

Blazer, either you grow up and discuss this in the mature and responsible way you claim to want to, or stop posting.

 

[JamesyJames3]

Sir, you are continously trying to put me down here. Do you want me to post the link for Pakistan website I mentioned? Oh wait, I won't get done for advertising will I? Look at the threads on this website! Countless fans share my views! Also, I don't understand why you are being so personal here- Saying I am not posting anything constructive and that I have no cricket knowledge whatsoever? Have I personally attacked you? Or anyone else?

No, you haven't attacked anyone. You have simply made my points evident through your fabricated posts.