Pakistan in England/Scotland 2006

Who are your men of the series? (select one from each team)

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andrew_nixon said:
If you're going to accuse people of racism without evidence, call people Cheatersen, and refuse to believe the evidence that Pietersen touched his thigh after being given not out, and then claim to be discussing things in a mature manner, you have to expect people to have a go at you.
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Yes yes, I understand that there are a lot of hardcore English fans are on this website. Again you ask for evidence- again I ask you to look at today's disgraceful display. Look at the pic I provided, just look- Pietersen is tapping his thigh whilst Darryl is considering the appeal.

Oh, and by the way- I am in no way intimidated by you folk. I am a proud Pakistani and I will stand by my view. You can label me an idiot and call me immature, but at the end of the day- Who are you trying to convince? I know for a fact that I am neither.
 
The Blazer said:
Yes yes, I understand that there are a lot of hardcore English fans are on this website. Again you ask for evidence- again I ask you to look at today's disgraceful display. Look at the pic I provided, just look- Pietersen is tapping his thigh whilst Darryl is considering the appeal.
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From your really small low res pic you can see Pietersen has stood back after edging it. This is no indication he was deliberlately tapped his thigh. He has stepped back and as a batsman your hand goes back there.

Also, didnt he touch his left thigh? In your pic hes touching the right.
 
The Blazer said:
Yes yes, I understand that there are a lot of hardcore English fans are on this website. Again you ask for evidence- again I ask you to look at today's disgraceful display. Look at the pic I provided, just look- Pietersen is tapping his thigh whilst Darryl is considering the appeal.
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We are asking for more evidence other than todays play. As far as I know, today was a one off.
 
The Blazer said:
Yes yes, I understand that there are a lot of hardcore English fans are on this website. Again you ask for evidence- again I ask you to look at today's disgraceful display. Look at the pic I provided, just look- Pietersen is tapping his thigh whilst Darryl is considering the appeal.
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1. I asked for evidence that Darryl Hair is a racist. Please provide it.
2. No one is arguing that Darryl Hair had a terrible day.
3. Look at the footage. Pietersen clearly touches his thigh AFTER being given not out. The commentators all agreed on this point, including Rameez Raja.
 
JamesyJames3 said:
Blazer, grow up, your making a bad name for so many Pakistani's by generalising your views as their's. Im sure a lot of Pakistan fans will not be happy reading some of your comments in the morning.
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I am aware of the Pakistani fans on this website. I do not know their views of the matter, but sir, please try reading my posts carefully- I said Pakistanis on other websites. If you think I am giving my country and fellow countrymen a bad, so be it; but I will stand by my opinions. I'm not mindlessly arguing here, but it seems like that the English on this site don't like it when their players are critisized. And still you go and call Afridi a cheat, even after all these months. Get over it.
 
A few bottom lines (which will hopefully help us to move on)...

1. Daryll Hair was shocking today - Daryll Hair is usually shocking and is usually fairly indiscriminately shocking.

2. KP cheated - All depends on what you saw on the footage. Seeing as everyone seems to be convinced that he touched his thigh before/after the call based on their nationality it's probably best to leave it. Like I said before if there has been a breach by him the match referee will see to it.

3. x, y and z cheated at cricket a long time ago - so did lots of people. By ball tampering I was referring to picking the seam not getting reverse swing. Either way most teams have done something they'd rather forget at some point in the past.

Let's try and move on to day 2 prospects :)
I reckon Pakistan might yet knock the rest over cheaply. The ball is only 10 overs old and Gul and Nazir are bowling pretty well. That said 350 is already a good score on this pitch imo.
 
The Blazer said:
I am aware of the Pakistani fans on this website. I do not know their views of the matter, but sir, please try reading my posts carefully- I said Pakistanis on other websites. If you think I am giving my country and fellow countrymen a bad, so be it; but I will stand by my opinions. I'm not mindlessly arguing here, but it seems like that the English on this site don't like it when their players are critisized. And still you go and call Afridi a cheat, even after all these months. Get over it.
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We are only reffering to Afridi as a cheat to counter-argue your claims that KP is cheating. Why don't you 'get over it' too.
 
andrew_nixon said:
1. I asked for evidence that Darryl Hair is a racist. Please provide it.
2. No one is arguing that Darryl Hair had a terrible day.
3. Look at the footage. Pietersen clearly touches his thigh AFTER being given not out. The commentators all agreed on this point, including Rameez Raja.
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Ah, you crave evidence do you, good sir. Well here you go, please have a good read through this article:
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvpak/content/current/story/255618.html
 
evertonfan said:
We are only reffering to Afridi as a cheat to counter-argue your claims that KP is cheating. Why don't you 'get over it' too.
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andrew_nixon said:
And Afridi did actually cheat. KP didn't.
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Ah, that is just your view, as an Englishman. You're not trying to suggest that you are right, are you? You have no conclusive evidence that he is innocent; and to be fair I have no conclusive evidence that he is guilty. So let's just drop it at that. Oh, and evertonfan, please put some thought into your posts. I stated you should get over Afridi's antics because it happened months ago. You expect me to get over Pietersen (see, I've used his real name) in one day? Brilliant! :clap
 
barmyarmy said:
Let's try and move on to day 2 prospects :)
I reckon Pakistan might yet knock the rest over cheaply. The ball is only 10 overs old and Gul and Nazir are bowling pretty well. That said 350 is already a good score on this pitch imo.
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I disagree. Weve got a guy whos scored 2 hundreds on 64 not outand a guy on a hundred. I don't see pakistan gttin g through unless it moves around alot.
 
andrew_nixon said:
Sorry, could you please point out the section of that article that proves Hair is a racist?
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Wow. Do you really need it pointed out. Very well.

1. Even before the day began, Darrell Hair was unlikely to be found on any Pakistan player's Eid card lists. His performances during Pakistan's winter series at home against England enraged Pakistani players and officials alike, many of whom privately expressed serious concern over his attitude and performances. After today's show, forget Eid bans; Hair will be lucky to escape calls for a fatwa, were fatwas still a fashionable thing in Pakistan.

2. For cataloguing purposes, he turned down an outside edge, then a clear inside edge and then a leg-before appeal whose only fault might have been that it was hitting middle. And that it was delivered by Danish Kaneria, who extracts as much out of Hair as he does out of Old Trafford. If it is just incompetence, then it sure as hell has a funny way of regularly seeking out and screwing Pakistan.

3. For balance, Billy Doctrove at the other end also missed an inside edge that many in his native Caribbean probably heard.
 
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