Pakistan in England/Scotland 2006

[BigCrickNan]

Look. If you were watching Sky Sports live at the time then Mike Atherton replayed it showing Hair saying notout. KP looked at the silly point and tapped his thigh. Not cheating, although it was quite unsporting.

Although i agree both the umpires were pretty crap today.

 

[The Blazer]

Yes Atherton cheated, he has apologised for this before, so why are you defending Afridi and having a go at Atherton?

And you still havn't provided evidence of Darly Hair being biased.

Mate, I am in no way having a go against Atherton. I am simply giving him as an example of English cheating. And what kind of evidence do you want me provide against Darryl. Go search on Pakistani forums...He has never been fair to Pakistan.

 

[barmyarmy]

I don't see any point going down the road of who cheated when as frankly most countries have skeletons in their closet be it from bowling underarm, ball tampering etc.
WRT Hair I would simply remind you that he makes bad decisions against every country going and it is certainly not just limited to Pakistan. I've read some of the posts on Pakpassion.net (and feel free to post links if you want to) and most the posts are simply people who are upset at bad umpiring and perceived bad sportsmanship and are looking for someone to have a go at. We've all done it but it's not actually justified in this case. I respect the fact that you are prepared to debate it and are now doing so in a more civilised manner but ultimately there's not much you can do to prove either of your points.

 

[The Blazer]

Blazer, either you grow up and discuss this in the mature and responsible way you claim to want to, or stop posting.

Please, please tell me...How am I not being mature? Oh wait...I know- It's because I don't agree with your views, right? I am not being childest in any way, sir. I have posted good posts here; just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean that you can call me immature.

 

[BigCrickNan]

Who heard Boycs on Channel 5 after the highllights? He was amazing. Get him on sky!

"What did you think about the two opening batsman lobbing up rubbish". I agree Inzi went totally weird bringing on Butt and Umar to give England lots of free funs. Poor captaincy.

 

[evertonfan]

Please, please tell me...How am I not being mature? Oh wait...I know- It's because I don't agree with your views, right? I am not being childest in any way, sir. I have posted good posts here; just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean that you can call me immature.

Calling Pietersen 'Cheatersen' is pretty childish in my opnion.

 

[andrew_nixon]

Go search on Pakistani forums...He has never been fair to Pakistan.

Yeah, because people who think someone is biased will be completely unbiased when discussing that individual won't they?

If you want to provide evidence, look at matches in which Hair has umpired involving Pakistan. Read through the commentary that is archived on cricinfo (if it's there), and calculate the % of incorrect decisions he gives against each team.

I'll even provide you with the match list.

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...=0;viewtype=list;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

 

[barmyarmy]

If you want to provide evidence, look at matches in which Hair has umpired involving Pakistan. Read through the commentary that is archived on cricinfo (if it's there), and calculate the % of incorrect decisions he gives against each team.

I'll even provide you with the match list.

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...=0;viewtype=list;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

It sounds like you've already done that

 

[The Blazer]

No, you haven't attacked anyone. You have simply made my points evident through your fabricated posts.

So why do you attack me? You don't agree with me; so discuss it! Please don't threaten to delete my posts, call me immature, label me an idiot, etc. I am making completely valid posts here, good sir, and I expect to have a good discussion- Not a personal attack against me!

 

[andrew_nixon]

So why do you attack me? You don't agree with me; so discuss it! Please don't threaten to delete my posts, call me immature, label me an idiot, etc. I am making completely valid posts here, good sir, and I expect to have a good discussion- Not a personal attack against me!

If you're going to accuse people of racism without evidence, call people Cheatersen, and refuse to believe the evidence that Pietersen touched his thigh after being given not out, and then claim to be discussing things in a mature manner, you have to expect people to have a go at you.

 

[The Blazer]

Yeah, because people who think someone is biased will be completely unbiased when discussing that individual won't they?

If you want to provide evidence, look at matches in which Hair has umpired involving Pakistan. Read through the commentary that is archived on cricinfo (if it's there), and calculate the % of incorrect decisions he gives against each team.

I'll even provide you with the match list.

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...=0;viewtype=list;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

Did you look at the cricinfo over-by-over commentary today? I can post some, if you want. It's made clear that Darryl was pretty shocking.

Calling Pietersen 'Cheatersen' is pretty childish in my opnion.

Tell that to the masses of Pakistanis on other sites who have labeled your (South African) hero that. It's not childish; I find it pretty amusing. Of course an English fan would be offended by that.

A bit off-topic here, but if you think I am making totally useless accusations here, why don't you take a look at Ian Botham. In the early 90s him and a number of other players accused Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis of 'ball tampering'. Only later did the world find out that it was actually 'reverse-swing'. Did Botham ever issue an apology? No!

 

[JamesyJames3]

Did you look at the cricinfo over-by-over commentary today? I can post some, if you want. It's made clear that Darryl was pretty shocking.


Tell that to the masses of Pakistanis on other sites who have labeled your (South African) hero that. It's not childish; I find it pretty amusing. Of course an English fan would be offended by that.

A bit off-topic here, but if you think I am making totally useless accusations here, why don't you take a look at Ian Botham. In the early 90s him and a number of other players accused Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis of 'ball tampering'. Only later did the world find out that it was actually 'reverse-swing'. Did Botham ever issue an apology? No!

Blazer, grow up, your making a bad name for so many Pakistani's by generalising your views as their's. Im sure a lot of Pakistan fans will not be happy reading some of your comments in the morning.

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Can we move on for goodness sake!!

 

[evertonfan]

Tell that to the masses of Pakistanis on other sites who have labeled your (South African) hero that. It's not childish; I find it pretty amusing. Of course an English fan would be offended by that.

I think you'll find he is English, otherwise he wouldn't have scored a 100 for teh three lions today would he?

 

[andrew_nixon]

Did you look at the cricinfo over-by-over commentary today? I can post some, if you want. It's made clear that Darryl was pretty shocking.

Agreed that he was shocking. There is no argument from anyone on that matter. But you have accused him of being racist. Please provide evidence.

Tell that to the masses of Pakistanis on other sites who have labeled your (South African) hero that. It's not childish; I find it pretty amusing. Of course an English fan would be offended by that.

Yeah, name-calling is in no way childish is it?

A bit off-topic here, but if you think I am making totally useless accusations here, why don't you take a look at Ian Botham. In the early 90s him and a number of other players accused Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis of 'ball tampering'. Only later did the world find out that it was actually 'reverse-swing'. Did Botham ever issue an apology? No!

Maybe not said sorry, but he has since admitted to being wrong on numerous occasions.