Pakistan tour of West Indies - July 2013

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Best thing to do with Hafeez is rest him, he has lost form with the bat. And is bowling is very ordinary now.
 

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So good to see two fast bowlers hitting the block hole at will in the end overs - excellent stuff

Pak would have had a winning total at hand if not for the 35+ extras. This will take some chasing from Pakistan on a slow-ish wicket
 

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Gettable for Pakistan? I'm not so sure, the batting has lacked any coherence in the last few months, this is going to be a huge test for them .
 

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Need to rotate the strike better. A lot better. Rather than defend after hitting a boundary
 

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Pakistan is Slipping in this chase. No Solid Batsman in the pakistani side. They always fail to chase any total.Nasir Jamshed's in there by luck , Probably due to many missed opportunities. Afridi can't bat everytime .
 
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Good , Wow , What an Innings by Hafeez, Shehzad and Shafiq, We just need more superstars like them :facepalm:facepalm:facepalm
 

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Shafiq is absolute garbage, doesn't know how to play cricket. The fact that he's taken Akmal spot as well in terms of the batting order is terrible. Umar should be brought up the order so he can at least be given a chance to win matches like he proved today he can be capable of doing if he's at least given a chance to play for the win.
 

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I totally agree with ballers101 there , Akmal should be bought up in the order ! where as Hafeez should be demoted ! the openers should give a good , solid start especially Shahzad has been batting terribly ! we can't just trust Afridi all the time ! some-one else needs to take the culpability now , if they all work together as a team , what can be better than that ?! the bowlers need to be grooved ! Irfan has been flaw-less in the last 5-6 matches and has bowled and achieved well , we need to kick out some players who just don't want to play for the nation but for themselves (selfish players :facepalm) , Jamshed after completing his fifty thought that his job is finished and he can now take risk and depart where saving wickets was so pivotal for Pakistan , all the blame should be on Misbah and the management because of the choosing to bowl first after winning the toss , we know that our batsmen aren't competent to complete this score in these tight conditions . Some-one will have to teach the lads how to build an innings ! they just can't finish in the end as Afridi and Akmal aren't reliable . :facepalm
 

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Look how much people lost (mainly me and Addy)

About the match, the reason for the lose where the 5 overs of maidens at the start. Had Ahmed Shehzad played his natural game of attacking Pakistan would have got there no problem.

Secondly, any team should have their top 4 batsmen in the top 4. Misbah should come higher as well as Akmal (can play at a strike rate of 80 for a long time). The only time he made a century he was pretty high up the order if I remember correctly. Hafeez needed to be moved down the order. He plays better when he forced to attack, as we have seen when he made decent scores in the recent South African series and Indian T20 games, when he was forced to attack.

Finally, Shafiq is not a ODI player. You have Haris Sohail, put his in the line-up. He is pretty flexible. Shafiq wasted so many bowls meaning when Afridi came in he had to start hitting from the start, resulting in him getting out very quickly.

Another point, why is Riaz playing. He has pace, but if you not going to use him in the middle overs, he is a waste at the death. Asad Ali hit the yorkers more consistently, and he has less experience at international level.
 

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I agree with Nabhan .

The coaches don't train our batsmen in the nets how they play like but instead coaching them like that , they do the opposite , which results them a loss of focus while batting so IMO , the lads should be trained like how they bat , just tell them how to bring up an innings and how the finish the match .

Like Hafeez , Umar , Shahzad etc should be trained aggressively by both , mind and technique .
 

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Please get rid of Shafiq he is a test player and he cant play in ODI's.Why on earth Junaid was not playing ?? Hafeez should go to hell he cant bat & cant bowl.Ahmed Shehzad needs to improve a lot.Nasir lucks is always on his side
 

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If you ask me, your best batsman need to bat at #3 and for Pakistan, it has to be Misbah ul Haq with all the technique he has got. #4 and #5 are play the anchor role who can up the run rate if needed and thats were Hafeez and Malik fits in quite smoothly. #6 and #7 can be sloggers. So, according to me, this is what makes the best lineup for Pakistan:

Jamshed
K Akmal
Misbah
Hafeez
Malik
U Akmal/???
Afridi

Imo, it will strengthen the middle order a bit giving it a lot more experience. Openers on the other hand are the ones who are natural stroke makers and the problem of low runrate won't be a case unless they throw their wickets away.
 

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If you ask me, your best batsman need to bat at #3 and for Pakistan, it has to be Misbah ul Haq with all the technique he has got. #4 and #5 are play the anchor role who can up the run rate if needed and thats were Hafeez and Malik fits in quite smoothly. #6 and #7 can be sloggers. So, according to me, this is what makes the best lineup for Pakistan:

Jamshed
K Akmal
Misbah
Hafeez
Malik
U Akmal/???
Afridi

Imo, it will strengthen the middle order a bit giving it a lot more experience. Openers on the other hand are the ones who are natural stroke makers and the problem of low runrate won't be a case unless they throw their wickets away.

Completely wrong in my opinion. Setting Misbah so high will mean more balls waited, in the opening powerplay. Misbah is a slow anchor, no point setting him up there to attack to set or chase a target.

My line-up:

1. Ahmed Shehzad (play natural agressive game)
2. Nasir Jamshed
3. Umar Akmal (plays at a strike rate of 80 odd naturally, so a great person to have in a chase or setting a total)
4. Misbah-ul-Haq/ Haris Sohail (depending on the score at that time, if Pakistan are batting well, send in Haris Sohail to maintain good rate, not defensive Misbah-ul-Haq)
5. Misbah-ul-Haq/ Haris Sohail (similar reason to above)
6. Mohammad Hafeez (quite a good agressive player, seen a lot in great batting in T20, so will be a better spot, where is forced to score at atleast run a ball)
6. Shahid Afridi (perfect spot for him, some time to get settled before give the ball and almighty thwack)
7. Umar Amin / Fawad Alam (not in the squad, I know)- but both a great feilder and help increase the outlook on the feild.
8. *need a bowling allrounder here* (like Hammad Azam/Wahab Riaz) etc (more batting and an extra depth in batting, like India have with Ashwin, Bhuvi, and previously with Bhajji
9. Saeed Ajmal (no need for an explanation)/ *or another young spinner to help blossom*
10. Junaid Khan/Asad Ali (great swing bowler, and better death bowler than Juanid, by a mile)
11. Mohammad Irfan (extra bounce because of height)

With this line-up;

bowling:
Mohammad Irfan
Junaid Khan/ Asad Ali
Saeed Ajmal
Hafeez
Afridi
*maybe* Hammad Azam/Wahab Riaz and Fawad Alam/Umar Amin

Batting also goes all the way to 7 and 8ish


Much better line-up for Pakistan.

Absolutely despicable comment. To condemn someone to hell because he is out of form whilst playing a SPORT! You sir need to take a long look at yourself.

You should have seen the tele broadcast, where they were verbally assassinating players.
 

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Again agreeing with Nabhan there . IMO , this should be the best playing XI :-

(1) Kamran Akmal-As he can bat aggressively and will force Jamshed to put in some shots except of making himself and Jamshed defend and waste a lot of balls like Shahzad
(2) Ahmad Shahzad-Shahzad opening with Kami could put the opposition in a lot of trouble and pressure as they are very aggressive batsmen and can play some serious deadly shots whenever the opposition's bowler put an easy ball , they can take risks and chances too
(3) Nasir Jamshed-Jamshed will fit here the best IMO , as he plays slowly and defends too much he cold save the innings if there is any early loss of wickets
(4) Umar Akmal-The young bloods know exactly how to bring up an innings , he could make Nasir play more aggressively too as he's a aggressive player himself and at #4 he will be having chances to make a ton and even 150 if Pak is giving the target
(5) Misbah ul Haq-The right man for this spot Misbah , Misbah has the ability to hold up an innings and gives others the chances for playing big shots
(6) Mohammad Hafeez-He always play magnificently well when he's forced to play big shots and players such as Umar , Shahzad or Afridi can force him very well and so can Misbah if he remains the captain
(7) Shahid Afridi-A slogger in the end is very helpful especially for Pakistan and he can build an innings in the end too
(8) Wahab Riaz-A pacey and economical bowling all rounder is what the teams need at this spot and this guy fits here perfectly even he can hit sixes when needed
(9) Umar Gul-A specialist bowler who's a miser and as well as a partnership breaker and he takes wickets regularly too even he can bat well like Wahab maybe he's better than Wahab
(10) Saeed Ajmal-Probably the best man for the team here
(11) Mohammad Irfan-(I am speechless about his recent performance , he's a very good lad especially at crucial stages)
 

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