Pakistan vs England Jul-Aug-Sep 2010

they probably bid on Pakistan to score under 100 runs.

my dad friend told him that M.Aamer was a really really poor family and now he got a house that worte like ?200000 in Pakistan....thats alot of money for a 18 year old in a poor village in Pakistan.....I wonder how he got that much money??
 
It was pretty weird watching this match. All the not 'normal' stuff, like getting extras, not going for shots, Akhtar pulling out of his run up, giving the 4 byes, etc. felt a bit suspicious.

I am not sure if it were real faults or faked ones.
 
One positive for Pakistan is that Shoaib Akhtar is bowling really well but their batting has let them down.
 
Well Pakistan are rapidly descending into farce and everyone is going to wonder whether what they're seeing is real or paid for.

Why oh why oh why do Pakistan insist on playing an out of form keeper at the top of the order?!?!? Not sure this is Yousuf's format and why is Afridi STILL batting down the order?!?!?! England may have won comfortably, set new T20I records blah, blah, blah, but they seem to be doing their best not to with selections etc.

Again I have to ask the selectors what the f**k is Luke Wright doing in the side?!?!? Didn't bat, didn't bowl, might as well have sat on the sidelines and watched 10 men beat Pakistan instead of standing out in the middle watching. Frankly I hope this isn't a taste of things to come, a complete waste of cricket and we can only hope Pakistan wake up and start playing cricket or they might as well go home. Maybe they are too distracted in fairness, but they're supposed to be professionals. We may well sell out the remaining matches, but the crowd may be robbed if this continues. One Test in four was a contest, one match out of six. Fair enough through stupidity of the few they have been denied two of their bowlers, but that's no excuse for the batsmen.

As for England for the ODIs, I'd ditch Wright without question. Bresnan probably too, 20 overs is his format. Bresnan averages 39.89 with the ball in ODIs, and also I'd dump Yardy which may seem harsh but he isn't a big wicket taking bowler. The most career wickets Yardy has taken in any format is 99 in domestic one dayers, that over 161 matches. He's taken 7 at 36.00 in T20Is, although domestically he has taken 45 in 64 matches at 26.53 with a pretty good SR and ER for the format. The focus should be on wicket taking in ODIs, it is the way to create pressure and win games. The less wickets you take, the less chance there is you'll win.

No doubt England will focus on big hitting potential blah, blah, blah, and retain the underperformers for the one or two times they deliver the goods in 10-15 ODIs. I sincerely hope England don't persist with the same keeper openers, it may pay dividends against Pakistan, but frankly it doesn't strike me that they'll cut it long term. I'd rather play Strauss into form in the ODIs, although you could argue a case for sending him back to the counties to find form ahead of the Ashes.

If Bell is now fully fit, I think I saw his name somewhere as playing cricket so I'm assuming he's back and playing, then I might recall him. Not everyone's cup of tea, a lot will knock him any which way they can. If he scores runs it will be either too slow or only when the pressure's off etc etc, when he doesn't score runs it will be open season for Bell bashing. He averages 36.67 in 81 ODIs at an SR of 72.67 which may not be a run a ball, but 36-37 runs is better in my book than 15 runs off 15 balls - there are 300+ to face in an ODI innings, not just 120. And it isn't that slow anyway, for the extra 10-15 SR some might manage I'd take the extra 5-10 runs Bell offers. All too often England get to around 100 then lose 2-3 wickets and lose their way, some of the better totals are built from a solid platform with 7 or 8 an over scored off the last 10-15 overs.
 
Agree with Wright and Bresnan being dropped. But that said, why drop them when you are winning? I guess it depends: if they are seen as 'place holder' players then sure drop them, but if the selectors are picking them more on potential and see them more as 'hopefully really good in 3 years' type players then I'd be persisting with them.

I'd keep Yardy because I believe your 5th/6th bowler doesn't need to take wickets. So if he's contributing well with the bat, I think he's a very useful guy to have.
 
Agree with Wright and Bresnan being dropped. But that said, why drop them when you are winning?

Some will say you don't change a winning side, I say there is always room for improvement and since cricket is about individual performances as much as anything team then why not replace a player not scoring runs or taking wickets with one that can/does?!?!?

I guess it depends: if they are seen as 'place holder' players then sure drop them, but if the selectors are picking them more on potential and see them more as 'hopefully really good in 3 years' type players then I'd be persisting with them.

As has been discussed before, what function/role does Wright fill/perform?!? He is batting too low to be much practical use, he doesn't bowl much so he's more or less getting a free ride. Top score of 52 says it all, most wickets in and ODI is two I think.

I'd keep Yardy because I believe your 5th/6th bowler doesn't need to take wickets. So if he's contributing well with the bat, I think he's a very useful guy to have.

A 5th/6th bowler should be batting higher than wherever Yardy ends up in the order (nine?) "Useful" doesn't cut it, all eleven players should be contributing and Yardy's bowling is not enough such that he can bat low down the order. He could bat maybe 5/6 and THEN be a 5th or 6th bowler as you put it. Frankly with Collingwood in the side do we need all the extra bits n pieces bowlers?
 
Well Pakistan are rapidly descending into farce and everyone is going to wonder whether what they're seeing is real or paid for.

Why oh why oh why do Pakistan insist on playing an out of form keeper at the top of the order?!?!? Not sure this is Yousuf's format and why is Afridi STILL batting down the order?!?!?! England may have won comfortably, set new T20I records blah, blah, blah, but they seem to be doing their best not to with selections etc.

Again I have to ask the selectors what the f**k is Luke Wright doing in the side?!?!? Didn't bat, didn't bowl, might as well have sat on the sidelines and watched 10 men beat Pakistan instead of standing out in the middle watching. Frankly I hope this isn't a taste of things to come, a complete waste of cricket and we can only hope Pakistan wake up and start playing cricket or they might as well go home. Maybe they are too distracted in fairness, but they're supposed to be professionals. We may well sell out the remaining matches, but the crowd may be robbed if this continues. One Test in four was a contest, one match out of six. Fair enough through stupidity of the few they have been denied two of their bowlers, but that's no excuse for the batsmen.

As for England for the ODIs, I'd ditch Wright without question. Bresnan probably too, 20 overs is his format. Bresnan averages 39.89 with the ball in ODIs, and also I'd dump Yardy which may seem harsh but he isn't a big wicket taking bowler. The most career wickets Yardy has taken in any format is 99 in domestic one dayers, that over 161 matches. He's taken 7 at 36.00 in T20Is, although domestically he has taken 45 in 64 matches at 26.53 with a pretty good SR and ER for the format. The focus should be on wicket taking in ODIs, it is the way to create pressure and win games. The less wickets you take, the less chance there is you'll win.

No doubt England will focus on big hitting potential blah, blah, blah, and retain the underperformers for the one or two times they deliver the goods in 10-15 ODIs. I sincerely hope England don't persist with the same keeper openers, it may pay dividends against Pakistan, but frankly it doesn't strike me that they'll cut it long term. I'd rather play Strauss into form in the ODIs, although you could argue a case for sending him back to the counties to find form ahead of the Ashes.

If Bell is now fully fit, I think I saw his name somewhere as playing cricket so I'm assuming he's back and playing, then I might recall him. Not everyone's cup of tea, a lot will knock him any which way they can. If he scores runs it will be either too slow or only when the pressure's off etc etc, when he doesn't score runs it will be open season for Bell bashing. He averages 36.67 in 81 ODIs at an SR of 72.67 which may not be a run a ball, but 36-37 runs is better in my book than 15 runs off 15 balls - there are 300+ to face in an ODI innings, not just 120. And it isn't that slow anyway, for the extra 10-15 SR some might manage I'd take the extra 5-10 runs Bell offers. All too often England get to around 100 then lose 2-3 wickets and lose their way, some of the better totals are built from a solid platform with 7 or 8 an over scored off the last 10-15 overs.

Makes you wonder why they wouldn't let KP play the T20s to find some form instead of having Luke Wright playing and not doing a thing..
 
The focus should be on wicket taking in ODIs, it is the way to create pressure and win games.

I would still say that bowling your 10 overs for <40 is creating a fair amount of pressure, especially in the modern game.
 
I'd say that Yardy's bowling although not directly has caused alot of wickets at the other end. Having Yardy bowl 10 overs for less than 40 is alot better than having a bunch of overs being filled by Wright, Bopara and Collingwood.
 
Yardy won't be dropped any time soon. I'm not a fan of Bresnan, I'd go with Anderson, Sidebottom and Broad as the seamers with Swann and Yardy as spinners. Then we have Colly and Wright, though his position could be under threat if Ravi scores runs in the ODIs and presuming KP comes back in for the Aus tour/WC.
 
Wright not batting in the last game as a reason to drop him is just crazy. If a team wins by 10 wickets, do you insist on the number 3 being dropped because he didn't bat? Of course not, because it's crazy. I've heard of personal vendettas, but this is too much.
 

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