Puddle Mafia 04 - Endgame Mafia (barmyarmy, BKB, RPHKR win)

[thedon5]

I still suggest Zhuorb and RPHKR need to be pressured. I don't believe both of them are town, they've both just followed suit with lunches and 'opinions'

Erm, lynch one of them then?

Zhuorb already has two lynches (BKB and I), so he's probably the better bet from your perspective. RPHKR has definitely added more to the game than Zhuorb.

Mind you, this is how Zhuorb plays, it doesn't seem like he is ever particularly helpful.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Unlynch
Lynch: RPHKR

I think Zhuorb is his usual self. I am going to pressurize RPHKR here. I agree he has just filled in and done nothing much.

Yeah, character claims are good unless mafia have been given fake claims.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

whatever he was talking about with insane cop when I said "some kind of innocent result",

presumably he was talking about the time you brought up the insane cop thing

Pretty much the only role I can give you credit for if you're town is insane cop.

I don't really have any idea who i think is most likely to be mafia. I could justify throwing a lynch on at least 3 different people to myself. Probably more. There isn't really anyone i have ruled as definitely pro-town yet.

Might throw it on sedition on the basis of his arrogant posts implying every town players is awful and he is effectively the sun tzu of mafia games.

 

[treva]

Erm, lynch one of them then?

Zhuorb already has two lynches (BKB and I), so he's probably the better bet from your perspective. RPHKR has definitely added more to the game than Zhuorb.

Mind you, this is how Zhuorb plays, it doesn't seem like he is ever particularly helpful.

Erm, I already have...

 

[Sedition]

Nope different occasion Ste. In my post lynching Abhas I was saying the only way someone could possibly clear Aditya before he even claimed is if they had some kind of innocent result on him already, but no matter which town PR one might have, it's impossible to completely clear someone when there are more than one mafia present.

He then took this to mean that I was saying he was insane cop, which is just another example of him trying to twist my words. That for me is just further reason to believe that he must be scum if my suspicious weren't already on the right track anyway.

And the reason I've said most people are playing crap is because there are a number of players who have hardly been active today, and in past days, which is not only frustrating when you check in every day, but makes it incredibly hard to get anywhere.. which is where we're at now.

 

[BKB1991]

Hmm loads of discussion here and there and I think everyone has a reason to be suspicious off and every one has a reason why they probably wont be considered as mafia.

What we need to do is narrow down a list to two or three and let people choose from there.

Trevas CC is solid atm, so we can let him off now. I havent seen a post from Zhuorb as well, and I also feel that User hasnt contributed as much. Colin has been surprisingly quiet, but he does seem to have a genuine reason. Abhas and Sedition seem pro-town but they seem to be gunning for each other and they both are good enough players to fool me.

Also Abhas I already posted pretty much exactly the same about Smurf a few days ago if you havent seen it. Basically states that we cant trust him entirely.

My lynch on Zhuorb stays, because I havent seen anything from him to convince me otherwise.

 

[Gaurav_7]

and I also feel that User hasnt contributed as much

I won't say I haven't contributed much. Instead, I've posted less. But, whatever I've posted I've made sure I contribute. It's frustrating when someone is overly aggressive and overly defensive. And, when we keep going round and round it makes that much more difficult. I'm going to go ahead and lynch any of Zhuorb or RPHKR unless they provide any reason not to do so.

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Also, yes I'd like to know what Manly meant by his dossier from Aditya. Surely he would know more...

 

[treva]

Sedition, you say a lot of players have been 'inactive', and I do agree to a certain extent, yet I have seen games wrapped up in the same amount of pages as we have reached by day 3. It's not necessarily the amount of posting that has stopped us going anywhere, it's the amount of circles people have taken in deciding who to go after.

If Zhuorb or RPHKR don't post soon I would heavily suggest we lynch one of them. We can't head towards a third no lynch in a row.

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Realise User has basically posted the same thing above. His post hadn't appeared as I was typing mine.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Treva's roleclaim seems pretty solid to me.

Unlynch: Treva

Reading the last few pages, the one thing that jumps out to me is thedon. He's done so much bandwagon jumping, it seems like he's desperate for a lynch. He even suggested lynching Aditya after his mason claim. Might actually quote all of his jumps.

Lynch:thedon5

I am going to pressurize RPHKR here. I agree he has just filled in and done nothing much.

He's contributed a lot more than you have. Both quality and quantity wise. RPHKR does seem town to me.

With Zhuorb, it's the same as Aditya - his play is so poor that you cant tell if he's scum or not. He has a habit of claiming the second he's in trouble, which is good mafia news as they find more power roles. On the other hand, he hasnt claimed yet despite some lynches on him, which might suggest he's got no claim to fall back on.

FOS: Zhuorb

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Lynch: Aditya

Lynches Aditya, but only after Sedition lynches him first. Despite saying how he found him suspicious earlier on.

Sorry, forgot to unlynch Aditya.

Unlynch: Aditya

Lynch: treva

So if we can't come to a conclusion towards the end of day 3 or day 4, I think we should definitely lynch Aditya. I reckon he could be telling the truth though, last game he was playing town very poorly and he could be doing the same here too. Till then, let's keep discussing and we can come back to him if need be.

In the exact same post he lynches Treva, he still suggests lynching Aditya, despite thinking he's a townie.

And note - he only lynches Treva after I place the first lynch on him.

Unlych: Treva

Lynch: Zhuorb

I don't fully believe treva's claim, partly because "we won't believe it" as he said, but I want to pressure Zhuorb - he's added nothing whatsoever all game, has been bandwagoning and has been generally inactive. Perhaps providing all his meaningful analysis to the Mafia QT?

Lynches Zhuorub, despite not being fully convinced of Treva's roleclaim.

And note again - only lynches him after BKB has.

The fact that he's so reluctant to initiate lynches suggests to me that he's scared of being seen as the main culprit behind what is most likely a townie lynch. Really scummy behavior.

He's done the same in Day 1 and 2 as well. Only lynched when there was a bandwagon going on - the no lynch on Day 1 and the Smurf lynch on Day 2.

 

[Aditya]

Wasn't suspicious of Trev from starting and hence I didn't lynch him. He was inactive, gave a good reason for it. For now, his role claim looks good. Just one query, Trev, what are your views on me? Or perhaps you can submit your views on whoever you feel is playing suspiciously. Simply because, as you have been inactive, it's important to know your views on the game.

Smurf makes a good point about TheDon. It's ironic how some player here have questioned me for my aggressive approach approach and one way thinking in earlier games, whereas they themselves are doing the same in this one.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Aditya - was Manly's dossier? I've asked you this earlier and so have others.

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*what was

 

[Gaurav_7]

He's contributed a lot more than you have. Both quality and quantity wise. RPHKR does seem town to me.

Yes, yes... He has posted more and has posted just the same thing what others have in more than one posts. I've posted my views but, posted them in a one off post. So, yeah..

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Yes, yes... He has posted more and has posted just the same thing what others have in more than one posts. I've posted my views but, posted them in a one off post. So, yeah..

He hasnt. As far as I recall, he has brought some valid points of his own. I'll quote some in a bit. You havent done anything worthwhile this game.

 

[Aditya]

I'd let you guys know the simple tactic Manly and I had. Both of us wanted to make sure that at no point, anyone has even the slightest of the idea that we're working together. Hence, he lynched me which I suggested him to do. He did so and then we were waiting for Sedition's reaction to his lynch. Sedition of course had no questions/issues. He didn't even raise the question about why was Manly so quick to lynch me, when he had been gunning for Trev all along, no one did but as Sedition's been so called "very aggressive", I'd expect him to notice this.

Manly had lynched Trev, I suggested him to change his lynch to me. This is what he posted "Ok man, I'll wait for someone to convince me to change my vote. Maybe get Sedition for some more reasoning and I'll swap to you.". He did do that later. Manly also posted in QT "The longer the game goes on and the more he posts the more I'm sure Colin is mafia. It's a completely different style he's using to normal.". I totally agreed/agree to that. This is his last post in the QT "Colin trying to postpone the hammer and saying someone is 'foolish' for doing so smacks of a mafia defending his teammate. Almost certain."

To sum up, we both were agreeing upon the fact that Sedition and Colin are working together. Sedition is playing a totally different game from his usual style and so is Colin and hence when Manly died, I continued with my suspicion on Sedition, in a even more aggressive way.

 

[treva]

Wasn't suspicious of Trev from starting and hence I didn't lynch him. He was inactive, gave a good reason for it. For now, his role claim looks good. Just one query, Trev, what are your views on me? Or perhaps you can submit your views on whoever you feel is playing suspiciously. Simply because, as you have been inactive, it's important to know your views on the game.

Smurf makes a good point about TheDon. It's ironic how some player here have questioned me for my aggressive approach approach and one way thinking in earlier games, whereas they themselves are doing the same in this one.

As for views on others Aditya, I have posted them clearly in the last page or so. My views on you are that you keep asking for a lot of views from a lot of people on a lot of things. This is a little hard to read but seems like you are either dragging other people into trying to back you up or looking for reasons to lynch people based on their views. To be honest I actually believe you simply because of the amount of info you have given and consistency in your attack of sedition. Whether you are right I'm not sure.

Are you sure you can copy and paste from your QT though?