South Africa tour of India 2019/20

[Aalay]

Sharmaji in full flow.

Ben Stokes knows what's up.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

2 centuries. 1 test. Not surprised. His technique is a topic unnecessarily discussed, but most people here already are knowledgable enough to know that the issue is the temperament and my opinion will not change till I see a gritty 30/40 of 200 balls even in SENA conditions. The 100 will come automatically if he can achieve the grit and mental strength.

 

[Villain]

2 centuries. 1 test. Not surprised. His technique is a topic unnecessarily discussed, but most people here already are knowledgable enough to know that the issue is the temperament and my opinion will not change till I see a gritty 30/40 of 200 balls even in SENA conditions. The 100 will come automatically if he can achieve the grit and mental strength.

So Pant has temperament for Test matches? Since most including you are so annoyed with him being dropped. The fact is both him and Rohit lack the composure and the temperament needed for Test matches but the difference is one is scoring runs while the other is constantly failing to deliver even in limited overs forget Tests. This management has already given Pant enough confidence if you talk about him getting insecure and losing his playstyle, he has been selected for almost every limited overs match I can remember. I'm no great fan of Saha either but he deserves the spot more than him at the moment.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

So Pant has temperament for Test matches? Since most including you are so annoyed with him being dropped. The fact is both him and Rohit lack the composure and the temperament needed for Test matches but the difference is one is scoring runs while the other is constantly failing to deliver even in limited overs forget Tests. This management has already given Pant enough confidence if you talk about him getting insecure and losing his playstyle, he has been selected for almost every limited overs match I can remember. I'm no great fan of Saha either but he deserves the spot more than him at the moment.

LOL.

Rishabh Pant averages 45 in his test career and has a test hundred in Australia and England. He easily is in the top 3 most dominant batters in the country and to add to that he keeps. I don't know what confidence or what you're talking about but Pant hasn't been failing for a year or something in LOI. In test match cricket, he absolutely deservedly warrants a place in the side as a number 6 batter alone.

 

[danielcarrico]

LOL.

Rishabh Pant averages 45 in his test career and has a test hundred in Australia and England. He easily is in the top 3 most dominant batters in the country and to add to that he keeps. I don't know what confidence or what you're talking about but Pant hasn't been failing for a year or something in LOI. In test match cricket, he absolutely deservedly warrants a place in the side as a number 6 batter alone.

I don't care what Pant averages. He could average 55 and Saha 15 but I'll take Saha any day of the week. I am sick of these so-called ''talented'' cricketers in Indian team. I don't want talented players in India team, I want hard working players. Pant is just an IPL product. He is being backed just because he plays the glamourous, nationalist IPL.

That's why I was fairly happy when Bumrah got injured. I think he's been unfairly backed ahead of Umesh for test cricket, despite the latter grinding it for years on tough Indian pitches. The way that Bumrah is hyped, I won't be surprised if they are secretly hiding him from grinding it in home test cricket and giving injury excuse just because of their unfair bias and backing towards Bumrah.

The hype of these IPL products is just sad. Take me back to the old days, before 2013..

 

[Bigby Wolf]

So Pant has temperament for Test matches? Since most including you are so annoyed with him being dropped. The fact is both him and Rohit lack the composure and the temperament needed for Test matches but the difference is one is scoring runs while the other is constantly failing to deliver even in limited overs forget Tests. This management has already given Pant enough confidence if you talk about him getting insecure and losing his playstyle, he has been selected for almost every limited overs match I can remember. I'm no great fan of Saha either but he deserves the spot more than him at the moment.

If Rohit Sharma can get repeated chance after 6 years of failure in LO cricket batting in the middle order (07 - 13) and (13-19) in tests yeah he has a slightly better record in test especially at home but overseas was a disaster then why not Pant? Rohit was and is always backed because of this talent over performance thing. As a matter of fact we are talking about test matches and Pant has deservedly earn and cemented his place after performing well both with the bat and keeping as well (Scoring hundreds in England & Australia) in his very first tour. IMO Pant is someone who is bit like Virender Sehwag who won't give much of a consistency but went on song can destroy the opposition single handedly so changing the natural instincts of them may end up destroying him just like what Greg Chapell tried to do with Sehwag in his Tenure.

 

[Villain]

LOL.

Rishabh Pant averages 45 in his test career and has a test hundred in Australia and England. He easily is in the top 3 most dominant batters in the country and to add to that he keeps. I don't know what confidence or what you're talking about but Pant hasn't been failing for a year or something in LOI. In test match cricket, he absolutely deservedly warrants a place in the side as a number 6 batter alone.

lol.

Firstly, the post was about Pant's temperament in Test matches and you contradicting yourself where you're opposing Rohit Sharma based on his temperament in Test matches while hooting for Pant's selection?

Better not to talk about batting averages, you can't judge a player based on that in Cricket(check Rohit's avg). And I don't know for how many years more will people boast about Pant's century in England where I'm not sure if you saw rest five(5!) of his innings which were single digit scores. Talk about the series in Australia, all his scores in the Test series in Australia were around 20-30s and even less than that except for that one and only century. So if failing in all matches and scoring a century in the last one where we already lost the match, series warrants you a place in the team? Time to move on and see other performances, Ajit Agarkar isn't our best batsman just so he has a century in England.

The confidence part was about him losing his playstyle just so he's dropped, he got most matches than anyone in the team in all the recent limited overs match we saw.

In the list of top 3 dominant batters we have? lmao. When and where has he won us a game.. dominance is not unecessary slogging, it's taking your team through and winning games for your country. He ain't no Sehwag! He bats at a position he should be finishing games but has he..

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

2 centuries. 1 test. Not surprised. His technique is a topic unnecessarily discussed, but most people here already are knowledgable enough to know that the issue is the temperament and my opinion will not change till I see a gritty 30/40 of 200 balls even in SENA conditions. The 100 will come automatically if he can achieve the grit and mental strength.

There isn't a problem with his technique. It's a problem with the thing you mentioned above and the problem with his weak zone. He clearly struggles with the ball the comes in to him cramping him for room. The temperament thing can be overcame with more matches he plays. If someone like Rohit Sharma is 100% sure about what he is doing then he is really difficult to get out. And since 2017 he has shown signs that he can curb his instincts.

 

[A.P Haux]

Guess choosing Rohit to open in tests wasn't a bad idea after all. But we have to wait and see........

 

[Bigby Wolf]

Meanwhile Second innings Shami strikes again! The lad is unplayable when he gets the ball to tail back and started reversing it.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Same old problem with the tail.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I don't care what Pant averages. He could average 55 and Saha 15 but I'll take Saha any day of the week. I am sick of these so-called ''talented'' cricketers in Indian team. I don't want talented players in India team, I want hard working players. Pant is just an IPL product. He is being backed just because he plays the glamourous, nationalist IPL.

That's why I was fairly happy when Bumrah got injured. I think he's been unfairly backed ahead of Umesh for test cricket, despite the latter grinding it for years on tough Indian pitches. The way that Bumrah is hyped, I won't be surprised if they are secretly hiding him from grinding it in home test cricket and giving injury excuse just because of their unfair bias and backing towards Bumrah.

The hype of these IPL products is just sad. Take me back to the old days, before 2013..

Doesn't make sense. Bumrah is miles ahead of any Indian bowler in the entire history of Indian Cricket which you have to accept it especially after the way he has bowled Overseas. And your post clearly shows your lack of knowledge. Pant has scored loads of runs in Ranji trophy before making it into the Indian side. Bumrah has years of hardwork and injuries that he has put behind before making it into the side. It is not Bumrah's problem if Umesh Yadav isn't consistent enough.

 

[danielcarrico]

Doesn't make sense. Bumrah is miles ahead of any Indian bowler in the entire history of Indian Cricket which you have to accept it especially after the way he has bowled Overseas. And your post clearly shows your lack of knowledge. Pant has scored loads of runs in Ranji trophy before making it into the Indian side. Bumrah has years of hardwork and injuries that he has put behind before making it into the side. It is not Bumrah's problem if Umesh Yadav isn't consistent enough.

Bumrah has had invisible hands of support, where Umesh has been completely destroyed by the management. Umesh is a real test bowler, he bowls to take wickets. Bumrah just isn't a test bowler, irrespective of his record. His record in Australia was artificially enhanced by Steve Smith's absence. I just hope Kohli sees the truth and understands that Umesh and Shami are superior test bowlers. Even in the world cup, I was grossly unconvinced by Bumrah's bowling. It wasn't our top 3 which lost us the NZ match, it was Pant's outrageous innings and Bumrah's defensive bowling which cost us the world cup.

 

[Villain]

If Rohit Sharma can get repeated chance after 6 years of failure in LO cricket batting in the middle order (07 - 13) and (13-19) in tests yeah he has a slightly better record in test especially at home but overseas was a disaster then why not Pant? Rohit was and is always backed because of this talent over performance thing. As a matter of fact we are talking about test matches and Pant has deservedly earn and cemented his place after performing well both with the bat and keeping as well (Scoring hundreds in England & Australia) in his very first tour. IMO Pant is someone who is bit like Virender Sehwag who won't give much of a consistency but went on song can destroy the opposition single handedly so changing the natural instincts of them may end up destroying him just like what Greg Chapell tried to do with Sehwag in his Tenure.

Pant is no way near end of his career and he'll eventually get his chances maybe even more than Rohit at some point, I was solely talking about the current selection where Saha is way ahead of him and deserves the spot he got.

 

[Villain]

I don't care what Pant averages. He could average 55 and Saha 15 but I'll take Saha any day of the week. I am sick of these so-called ''talented'' cricketers in Indian team. I don't want talented players in India team, I want hard working players. Pant is just an IPL product. He is being backed just because he plays the glamourous, nationalist IPL.

The hype of these IPL products is just sad. Take me back to the old days, before 2013..

Pretty much all I wanted to say. Can't agree more, bored and sick of the word talent in Indian cricket.