Sri Lanka tour of New Zealand

NZ are definitely favourites, SL have a terrible record over in NZ and they have shown they still do struggle against the pacemen and with Bond there SL will have some tough times.
 
It's going to be a compeditive series anyway I think.

And about O'Brian, I don't think he bowls quite that quick (140) maybe he can hit that but I think he's one of those 135kmph bowlers. He has played a few matches before without much sucess. There isn't really that much about him I can say. He's just a bowler.

Mills is unfortonatly injured, he is definaly the second best paceman in the country. He may be back for the ODI's hopefully.

Mason is another intesting one, if he gets on the park then expect him to do well. He is very much a McGrath, Mills, Clark type bowler if I can mention his name amoungst them :p.
 
i dont really think there is a favourite by a margain like if it was New Zealand Bangledesh. But judging by what you guyz say Srilanka have previously been not so good in New Zealand so the Kiwis are most probably favourites. I Remember watching a New Zealand Sri Lanka tour a couple of years back in New Zealand and Sri Lanka got rolled in the ODI's
 
aussie1st said:
It's not that they don't play many matches they just seem to be playing more ODIs than test.
I think the thing with New Zealand is that they don't fill their time off with more cricket like some of the other countries do.
 
andrew_nixon said:
I think the thing with New Zealand is that they don't fill their time off with more cricket like some of the other countries do.

Thats true I don't hear too many players that go over to England for our winter. Only the Fleming, Styris but not too many others.
 
Fleming, Vincent, Styris, H Marshall, Franklin, Astle, McCullum all went and played some county cricket. Bond and Vettori were down for it but had to cancel to recover from injury. Thats a large portion of the side.

So yeah, those two statements arn't very correct.

But yes, we don't play enough cricket here which sucks. This season we have enough ODIs but 2 tests.

And when we do play cricket, its against the same side. Sri Lanka in New Zealand for the third time in 3 seasons. Pretty poor scheduling.
 
Thats just the Black Cap players I mean the domestic players that aren't Black Caps. Australia have tons from NSW, Qld etc who haven't worn the baggy green that go over to England.
 
aussie1st said:
Bond is more like 150 at his peak, but 140 is more than enough for him as hes so accurate and gets lethal swing that goes both ways as you saw in the Champions trophy. Big blow was losing Mills as he looks like he was finally making his mark.

Im surprised that OBrien bowls at 140kmh if he does, but that would be great! Bond i have seen clock 157kmh against the aussies last year he is easily as fast as brett lee when fully fit, but thats not often :P

consistently Bond will bowl 145kmh+

Feelin Blue? said:
i dont really think there is a favourite by a margain like if it was New Zealand Bangledesh. But judging by what you guyz say Srilanka have previously been not so good in New Zealand so the Kiwis are most probably favourites. I Remember watching a New Zealand Sri Lanka tour a couple of years back in New Zealand and Sri Lanka got rolled in the ODI's

we crushed SRL in recent home series here, but the team coming over look absolutely different with great improvement. I would put SRL as favourites with a 65% chance of winning this series.

NZL has three fresh players inserted at the top. IF they can play well we will be a strong team, IF.

Im hoping for big things from Sinclair, one of my favourite players for years.
 
I was thinking of Ian Butler, haven't seen much on O'Brien then.
Lee's probably that tad quicker as he has clocked the 160km/h and almost did it in NZ but thats only a slight difference but with Bond's accuracy and swing he is much more deadly than Lee.
 
aussie1st said:
I was thinking of Ian Butler, haven't seen much on O'Brien then.
Lee's probably that tad quicker as he has clocked the 160km/h and almost did it in NZ but thats only a slight difference but with Bond's accuracy and swing he is much more deadly than Lee.

agreed Lee is faster consistently, i know Bond was just as quick early on but his changing of his action twice has lowered his top speed down to about 155, but hes generally 140-145.

he bowled at 157 about three balls in a row in a ODI against aussie, and if he can get that back with his accuracy and swing he is one of the deadliest bowlers going around.

I do feel batting has improved worldwide because of the batting wickets that seem to dominate the scene, i just hope NZ follows suit and has some batsmen friendly surfaces, cause i get sick of 3 day test matches here.

Perenially our problem is developing batsmen that can bat for long periods unless they are two shot blockers like Richardson mastered. That is because we have very green tinged wickets and overcast conditions because cricket NZ always plays test matches at the wrong time of year. We should ideally be playing two test series in February and March, not November and december.

aussie1st said:
I was thinking of Ian Butler, haven't seen much on O'Brien then.

Butler has an ongoing back injury that surgery can not fix, sadly. He was always the second quickest around, but was erractic with control.

I an OBrien bowled for us briefly a season or two ago and was unimpressive to say the elast, hopefully he has developed like MIlls has, im sure he is a 130-135km bowler. I think there isnt much difference between him and Mason. I am surprised they havent looked at Mark Gillespie who they had in the ODI squad for ICC champ trophy.

Obviously we will be offering up seamer friendly conditions again with the exclusion of Jeetan Patel from the squad.
 
You guys must have a few more swing bowlers to use these conditions better? Mills would have been a handful on the NZ conditions and Franklin will prove to be more effective then he has been lately.
 
To be honest i feel that because our top orders lack of batting acumen, due to greener wickets, many of our bowlers look better than they really are against seasoned batters.

If i think of the best bowlers in NZL, Bond Mlls Martin and Franklin stand out head and shoulders above the rest. And recently i have been very disappointed in Franklin. I have heard Gillespie is pretty good and would like to see him play, but aside from that i do not think there is a lot of depth at this time.
 
lol at your quote in sig.

Anyway, Franklin should not be underestimated. He is more a test bowler then an ODI one. If the ball swings he will be a handful.

He is a rhythm type bowler too, when things are going his way he's good and when they arn't he gets smashed. His pace drops about 5-10kmph too. If he takes a wicket you watch the speed. He'll bowl a bit quicker.

And about Ian Butler, he has tried to come back as a bowler but still is having some problems. It is a huge shame because of his pace and youth. Now he is trying to make it as a batsman and he isn't doing too badly. Could be a handy all-rounder for the future if he get shis bowling right.
 
Thats a pity with Butler as 140+ bowlers are hard to find for most countries the Kiwis in particular. If he does come back I wonder if he will be 140+ like Bond has managed to do after all his injuries.
 
Octavius said:
Im surprised that OBrien bowls at 140kmh if he does, but that would be great! Bond i have seen clock 157kmh against the aussies last year he is easily as fast as brett lee when fully fit, but thats not often :P

consistently Bond will bowl 145kmh+



we crushed SRL in recent home series here, but the team coming over look absolutely different with great improvement. I would put SRL as favourites with a 65% chance of winning this series.

They couldn't seem to play the pitch, but correct me if im wrong but both teams were having trouble with the spin as i remember a lot of scores like 7/141, 6/91 and stuff like that
 

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