Stop Lee before 'someone dies'

[aussie1st]

Lol.
Being under pressure doesn't justify bowling beamers.

If you can't control your own pace you've got to slow down a bit. You can't keep flouting the rules and saying you can't control it. No one is telling you to run down and chuck the ball as fast as possible. If you want to, make sure you do it within the rules that are set.

I'm not saying it justifies it. I'm say that is the reason he bowls them.

Lee will never slow down in pace but he does need to fix this problem of his. I don't know how hes going to do it but he needs to fix it. It affects the image and rep of Lee.

exactly

you dont see fast bowlers like akthar and bond bowling beamers

and you cant say lee is too fast and cant control his pace

Ahktar has bowled a beamer before, and probably more that I have missed. Bond has great control thats why he doesn't bowl any. But its a good point you make, you don't see these guys bowling beamers as often as Lee.

I think the best solution is to calm Lee down if he has been hit to the boundary. As whenever that happens you know there is only 2 balls he will bowl.

 

[cricket_lover]

Well,there is always a chance of hurting the batsmen when you are bowling beamers, and even suprised bouncers. Being under pressure cannot be an excuse and if you do bowl one "under pressure", the umpires should take a big note of that and should not allow him to bowl anymore (in that particular innings).

The WI pace quatret bowled as fast and were more difficult to play. But i don't think they bowled beamers "under pressure". You have to learn to play under pressure, if you can't...you are not allowed to play anymore.

 

[aussie1st]

Well,there is always a chance of hurting the batsmen when you are bowling beamers, and even suprised bouncers. Being under pressure cannot be an excuse and if you do bowl one "under pressure", the umpires should take a big note of that and should not allow him to bowl anymore (in that particular innings).

The WI pace quatret bowled as fast and were more difficult to play. But i don't think they bowled beamers "under pressure". You have to learn to play under pressure, if you can't...you are not allowed to play anymore.

Right you are, he needs to be able to handle the pressure. When the going gets tough Lee forgets everything and tries to bowl extremely fast. As I said this is when his 2 ball trick comes out. Yorker or bouncer. Lillee was an excellent mentor to Brett and he should be brought back to teach him how to handle the pressure better.

 

[Sureshot]

He might not kill someone, but it still hurts a hell of a lot. International bowlers must have enough control to not bowl beamers. Shoaib too does it some times, but Lee does it once every one or two series, which is shocking.

I reckon it could kill someone, i wouldn't rule it out, 80 mph 6ounce solid object in between the eyes. Well it would be bad.

Did one in the Ashes iirc aswell.

 

[kodos]

There is always a chance of Lee's beam balls may kill or atleast severly hurt someone but i must say kill someone is quite slim. When i notice Akhtar bowls beam balls they were attempted slower balls which means the batsman have another time to evade from it and doesn't hurt as much when it hits them. Eg. In the recent series when Shoaib bowled a beam ball to Bell. Lee has got to get is act up. He bowls ridiculous beam balls and because of this it will be detrimental to his reputation. He already has a pretty bad reputation by appealling and just charging down the pitch as this was seen in the recent Windies-Aus series with Sarwan's wicket in the last test.

 

[Lucky]

Has he ever bowled one in tests? I haven't seen a beamer in tests, has it happened?
I've seen it in the ODI's, mabye it could be of the amount or type of paint applied to the white ball?

 

[denguta]

BOwling beamrs is good

 

[angryangy]

Beamers are generally caused by attempting a yorker delivery. In ODI situations, there is pressure to bowl a number of yorkers and not as much time to cool down and focus.

Where fast bowling is concerned, there is always a chance that you will hurt the batsman. It's the game. Doesn't have to be express pace, doesn't have to be bad or short bowling. Justin Langer suffered broken ribs by a fast-medium delivery that surprised him. Earlier in that Aus v NZ match, Lou Vincent pulled up sharply due to being hit on the calf by a Brett Lee delivery. Countless batsmen have broken fingers and toes at the crease.

The important thing is that the batsman always has the opportunity to get out of the way. If he is dumb enough to stand still while a 160 gram missile flies at 155 km/h directly into his head, he certainly shouldn't be playing international cricket.

 

[Lucky]

The important thing is that the batsman always has the opportunity to get out of the way. If he is dumb enough to stand still while a 160 gram missile flies at 155 km/h directly into his head, he certainly shouldn't be playing international cricket.

Yes, but as a batsman you expect to see the ball bounce and I have had my share of beamers and TRUST ME, It takes a bit longer to pick them up as a batsman. This has happened to me and I understand it more and why these deliveries are harder to pick up.

 

[abaddon_67]

The important thing is that the batsman always has the opportunity to get out of the way. If he is dumb enough to stand still while a 160 gram missile flies at 155 km/h directly into his head, he certainly shouldn't be playing international cricket.

So easy to say ..

Dumb enough !!!
U dont have much time to get out of the way of a 155km/h ball .. DO u ?

I've hurt batsmen with beamers at my diblly dobbly pace .. Shudder to think what will happen to a batsman getting hit my Lee's beamers.

 

[Lucky]

So easy to say ..

Dumb enough !!!
U dont have much time to get out of the way of a 155km/h ball .. DO u ?

I've hurt batsmen with beamers at my diblly dobbly pace .. Shudder to think what will happen to a batsman getting hit my Lee's beamers.

Yh thats also true, the ball is a lot harder to pick up and plus, the batsman only has + or - around 1 second to react and to decide on how to play the delivery. I wouldn't be saying things like that to any batsman.

 

[irottev]

Lee tends to bowl beamers when theres pressure on him. I guess he gets all sweaty and nervous and can't get it right.

As Parore said, it could go through the visor, ive seen balls go in the visor before after bouncing of course. If it went stright through the visor, as unlikly as it is, that would be lethal.

I know it isn't intentional but that one Lee bowled to McCullum was at a very dangerous height and McCullum was very lucky to get bat on it.

You have all seen the new spedo graphic which shows how much pace is taken off from the pitch, for beamers there isn't any pace taken off. I would love to see the reaction time. It could kill someone.

You saw what happened to Papps, that had 20k/h taken off it from the pitch. If someone got a beamer to the helmet it could knock them out.

 

[Gilchrist]

Get of his case he has bowled so well, everyone has good and bad patches.

 

[angryangy]

Yeah, they can get hit (and mind you, I said international level, not refering to crappy grade cricketers), but does anyone stand still?

After the ball bounces, it approaches the batsman angling up, obviously. It can surprise him of the pitch (perhaps by lateral movement, perhaps by the properties of the pitch) and strike him in the face, as is suggested, through the visor. The danger areas for a batsman's skull are the unprotected eye sockets, and his temples (the side of your head just behind the eye).

A beamer is either coming at the batsman straight or dropping a little on him, so for it to enter his helmet, he must point his head at it the entire time, while standing directly in its path.

 

[sid098in]

the chances of a beamer hitting head is pretty low coz the ball tends to dip after been released so mostly a beamer might hit a batsman above his waist

so the chances killing some 1 with a beamer are pretty slim at the max he mi8 break a bone in the rib cage but that really hurts and it can end a players carrier as a cricketer

the biggest problem with a beamer being bowled at lee's pace is, its difficult to pick coz most batsmen pick th ball of the pitch if the miss it out from the bowler's arm and with beamersu dont hav any such opportunites