Stop Lee before 'someone dies'

[y2j826]

it was not intentionally done, it just happens, cuz bowl slips from lee's hand, so if anyone think that it has done intentioanlly think about it how many time u have to face that kinda deliveries in ur real life.

 

[sohum]

1. It doesn't matter if it is intentional or not. He is not supposed to be bowling it. We don't see many other fast bowlers bowl it. Why should he? Of course he is not intending to do it.

2. 22 yard distance, 151 kmph gives you a reaction time of about 0.47 seconds. That's about how much time it takes someone to slap you in the face even while you were looking at them. Now multiply the force of that slap by quite a bit and you have your beamer. 0.5 seconds is not enough to stop a slap, let alone a ball coming straight at you, which you are expecting to bounce.

 

[angryangy]

Change that analogy and instead imagine the person running at you for 20 m, then slapping you in the face.

Now, we mainly have a problem with Brett Lee bowling beamers every time he goes to New Zealand. I think it's more a case of anyone else not causing so much comotion (anyone else being Shoaib Akhtar really, Shane Bond is usually injured).

 

[sohum]

Change your analogy to someone running at you from 20 meters, you expecting them to hit the table you're sitting at but they instead slapping you in the face.

 

[andrew_nixon]

BOwling beamrs is good

Care to tell us why?

 

[Lucky]

sohummisra and angryangy, stop arguing
The fact is that even if the person runs 500 m and then "slaps you in the face" :rtfl, the reaction time is the same for the "slap" if the person runs before that or not (depending on the bowler)! The amount of the run has not much effect whatsoever, apart from the fact the the speed of the ball will be increased, but when someone has a longer run up you expect the ball to be reaching you quicker.

And finally, As a batsman, you ALWAYS expect the ball to bounce, and when a beamer is bowled, it takes more time to adjust and plus there is so little time to react!!

 

[sachin]

I agree with you there. Bowling beamers is to be expected occassionally,but of course if it continues then it should be controlled by the appropraite authorities.

 

[Sman-21]

Go watch that american rubbish Baseball if you want to see dangerous beamers worth whinging about.

What a load of rubbish the reason brett Lee has bowled quite a few beamers mostly in NZ is due to the pitch he slips which causes him to lean back too much on delivery which then means the ball is released at the wrong angle.
Hes always had trouble with slipping in NZ so will always have trouble bowling yorkers there.

There was a bowler cant remember who/team playing Aus that bowled 3 or 4 in a couple of overs cant remember if he had to stop bowling or just got warned.
Might have been Shoaib not too sure

 

[langerrox]

A bunch of bull for me, Its international cricket, People slip, they are protected big time and get paid to play..

 

[sachin]

But if you continuallly do it,you should be cautioned.

 

[Radaga]

The rule is that one is allowed, if he bowls it again send him off. So obviously if he bowls one beamer then it just slipped.

It's all just more bullshit from the bloody kiwi's because they are scared of Lee, they have never been able to face him. I hope Mitchell Johnson gets a game and rips through them just like Lee did.

 

[Sureshot]

Has he ever bowled one in tests? I haven't seen a beamer in tests, has it happened?
I've seen it in the ODI's, mabye it could be of the amount or type of paint applied to the white ball?

Did one in the Ashes, Bell was batting iirc.

There is always a chance of Lee's beam balls may kill or atleast severly hurt someone but i must say kill someone is quite slim. When i notice Akhtar bowls beam balls they were attempted slower balls which means the batsman have another time to evade from it and doesn't hurt as much when it hits them. Eg. In the recent series when Shoaib bowled a beam ball to Bell. Lee has got to get is act up. He bowls ridiculous beam balls and because of this it will be detrimental to his reputation. He already has a pretty bad reputation by appealling and just charging down the pitch as this was seen in the recent Windies-Aus series with Sarwan's wicket in the last test.

Very slim but there is a possibility, they invented the helmet for a reason.

Most likely injury if a beamer went between the visor could be loss of sight/bleeding on the brain.

Slow ball beamers aren't that bad, because they are about 2/3rds of the pace.

Get of his case he has bowled so well, everyone has good and bad patches.

It's got nothing to do with how well he's bowled.

it was not intentionally done, it just happens, cuz bowl slips from lee's hand, so if anyone think that it has done intentioanlly think about it how many time u have to face that kinda deliveries in ur real life.

No-ones suggesting he does it on purpose, it the fact it happens, and seems to happen every series.

 

[Sando]

The rule is that one is allowed, if he bowls it again send him off. So obviously if he bowls one beamer then it just slipped.

It's all just more bullshit from the bloody kiwi's because they are scared of Lee, they have never been able to face him. I hope Mitchell Johnson gets a game and rips through them just like Lee did.

Whilst you're right the Kiwi's haven't been able to handle Lee all that well throughout the course of his career (taken 36 wickets at 19's) they certainly aren't scared of him.

Mitch Johnson still looks a prospect, but he isn't dominating any ODI's any time soon in my opinion.

Obviously Lee doesn't bowl beamers on purpose, there's no discernible advantage to it. Still, everything that can be done to eliminate beamers from cricket must be done, but I'm not sure what the answer is.

 

[aussie1st]

Whilst you're right the Kiwi's haven't been able to handle Lee all that well throughout the course of his career (taken 36 wickets at 19's) they certainly aren't scared of him.

Mitch Johnson still looks a prospect, but he isn't dominating any ODI's any time soon in my opinion.

Obviously Lee doesn't bowl beamers on purpose, there's no discernible advantage to it. Still, everything that can be done to eliminate beamers from cricket must be done, but I'm not sure what the answer is.

I agree our current system of only one beamer per match ain't doing anything. I also can't see how Lee can stop bowling them. And its not like hes bowling 2 a match so its within the rules. But it will be worrying if he bowls one once every match.

Johnson seems like another Lee, quick but not much control which shows with his economy in ING matches.

 

[sami ullah khan]

There was a bowler cant remember who/team playing Aus that bowled 3 or 4 in a couple of overs cant remember if he had to stop bowling or just got warned.
Might have been Shoaib not too sure

It was Waqar Younis world cup 2003 and batsman was Symonds. The way he hit Pakistan all around the park that day must have driven captain (waqar himself) to such tactics, naah Waqar was too good a sportsman to do such a rubbish thing intentionally.
We can never rule out the possibilities of bowlers bowling beamers when they go for yorkers. Just a part of the game. If any one disagrees they can go in net some day and try to bowl yorkers. They will know what I mean