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Its either INDIA or no one else (CANADA might be a major Threat though)!!!
Abhas said:Its either INDIA or no one else (CANADA might be a major Threat though)!!!
saisrini80 said:If you had compared the performance of the Indian team under other Indian captains and under Ganguly, then you would have not have stated this! The thing is, our older captains were so poor that Ganguly's records show him as the most successful captain! He has been too and under him, India at least now look to be serious challengers when before, they were just looking like mere passengers!
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It was Ganguly who saved Dravid from being dropped from the ODI team by handing over the wicketkeep gloves to him temporarily! Check the facts before posting! Ganguly was the one who decided to use Dravid as a makeshift wicketkeeper thereby making the selectors avoid the axing of Dravid from the ODI team! Now, Dravid is the most reliable ODI batsman too thanks to Ganguly! How do you guys so conveniently forget what this guy has did and always try to find faults?
Sriram and Badani score loads of runs in domestic competitions. When they're brought into international cricket, they play as if they're from USA or Malaysia with very little knowledge about cricket!
And Rao now is being given chances. He might prove his worth! I agree Rao was inducted when Dravid was captain. But who cares who backed him?
It was the same Laxman that didnt find favor with the selectors for the World Cup 2003. He expressed his disappointment for it and tried to make an issue out of it. I doubt if Ganguly is persisting with Laxman. After the WC2003, the public and media pressure has made the selectors opt again for Laxman who is not fit at all for ODI cricket!
Afridi has been going through a good time and Sehwag through a bad time! WIth these guys, it all just depends on the time that they're going through! Sehwag is definitely more consistent than Afridi always! And Afridi is an all rounder and no denying that. But that doesnt mean he is a better player than Sehwag!
No offence, but can you please format your posts so that they are easy to read. One big paragraph just makes it look like gibberish.Indiangod said:Look , When Ganguly started as captain India was 8th in the test table , and 7th in the odi table back in 2000 , since ealrley 2004 India have climbed the rankings but dropped a bit in the odis , ganguly as never lost a test series agaisnt australia as captain and thats a good record won 1 draw 1 , dravid was the capatin when India lost to the aussies at home in 2004 , and when India lost to the pakistani when ganguly gave India 2-0 series lead , but then again its not the captains fualt the team dont perform. India was series challengers , not looked . And another thing India has been in big and mjor tournment finals but 1 , at least they get into the finals , not just get out of the first round or something like that . And It was Ganguly who saved Dravid from being dropped from the ODI team by handing over the wicketkeep gloves to him temporarily and thats the basic truth Yuvraj is a good player , with some talent , easliy the best fielder in the India team , Yuvraj has won India many matches , dont forget he does bat at num 6 , and ave 30 at num 6 is good , and Ganguly does back all his players , and no Afrdi is not a better player than sehwag , check sehwags overall test and odi stats , and compare how many matches as he won with tthe bat . afrdid is incosistant , and so is sehwag in the last year or so , but he will improve and get better . India just needs time , and they will improve , and dont forget the world cup is till 18 months away , and thats a lot of time to improve . I'd like to see who gets picked as an agresser in the world 11 vs aus in the 3 match odi series its either sehwag or afridi , and I bet you its sehwag , we'll see what the world thinks whos better , and by the way the people all around the world have put sehwag in the test and odi mathces in the world 11 vs aus series , that means they must think sehwag is a better player than afrdid , want some proof click here http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/216822.html , it was either going to be sehwag or afridi and they picked sehwag .
Indiangod said:Look , When Ganguly started as captain India was 8th in the test table , and 7th in the odi table back in 2000 , since ealrley 2004 India have climbed the rankings but dropped a bit in the odis , ganguly as never lost a test series agaisnt australia as captain and thats a good record won 1 draw 1 , dravid was the capatin when India lost to the aussies at home in 2004 , and when India lost to the pakistani when ganguly gave India 2-0 series lead , but then again its not the captains fualt the team dont perform. India was series challengers , not looked .
Afrdi is not a better player than sehwag , check sehwags overall test and odi stats , and compare how many matches as he won with tthe bat . afrdid is incosistant , and so is sehwag in the last year or so , but he will improve and get better . India just needs time , and they will improve , and dont forget the world cup is till 18 months away , and thats a lot of time to improve . I'd like to see who gets picked as an agresser in the world 11 vs aus in the 3 match odi series its either sehwag or afridi , and I bet you its sehwag , we'll see what the world thinks whos better , and by the way the people all around the world have put sehwag in the test and odi mathces in the world 11 vs aus series , that means they must think sehwag is a better player than afrdid , want some proof click here http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/216822.html , it was either going to be sehwag or afridi and they picked sehwag .
Indiangod said:Look , When Ganguly started as captain India was 8th in the test table , and 7th in the odi table back in 2000 , since ealrley 2004 India have climbed the rankings but dropped a bit in the odis , ganguly as never lost a test series agaisnt australia as captain and thats a good record won 1 draw 1 , dravid was the capatin when India lost to the aussies at home in 2004 , and when India lost to the pakistani when ganguly gave India 2-0 series lead , but then again its not the captains fualt the team dont perform. India was series challengers , not looked .
India has been in big and mjor tournment finals but 1 , at least they get into the finals , not just get out of the first round or something like that . And It was Ganguly who saved Dravid from being dropped from the ODI team by handing over the wicketkeep gloves to him temporarily and thats the basic truth Yuvraj is a good player , with some talent , easliy the best fielder in the India team , Yuvraj has won India many matches , dont forget he does bat at num 6 , and ave 30 at num 6 is good , and Ganguly does back all his players .
Afrdi is not a better player than sehwag , check sehwags overall test and odi stats , and compare how many matches as he won with tthe bat . afrdid is incosistant , and so is sehwag in the last year or so , but he will improve and get better . India just needs time , and they will improve , and dont forget the world cup is till 18 months away , and thats a lot of time to improve . I'd like to see who gets picked as an agresser in the world 11 vs aus in the 3 match odi series its either sehwag or afridi , and I bet you its sehwag , we'll see what the world thinks whos better , and by the way the people all around the world have put sehwag in the test and odi mathces in the world 11 vs aus series , that means they must think sehwag is a better player than afrdid , want some proof click here http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/216822.html , it was either going to be sehwag or afridi and they picked sehwag .
saisrini80 said:Indiangod, stop arguing here man! It is a waste arguing here. Ganguly deserves more praise than the hate that he is getting! People are so obsessed with showing their brickbats on him that we're probably wasting our time here!
Lets just sit back and watch Ganguly jam the a*s of his detractors and critics who have it as their hobby to keep pouncing on him!
Cricketville said:Afridi > Sehwag in ODIs.
Cricketville said:hmm...Ganguly was the one who cried about the Nagpur pitch favouring the seamers, Not Dravid.
And number 2, Ganguly did not give India a 2-0 lead against pakistan. It was Sehwag and Dravid and Dhoni who did.
And your posts are extremely funny. Anytime the other batsmen do well, you give the credit to Ganguly. But when India lose, you blame it on the team, not Ganguly. Stop this two facedness. Have some consistency.
: Bangs head on the wall repeatedly :
Is it too much to ask you to differentiate between ODIs and tests ? Thw World Cup ( which is what this frikkin thread is about) is an ODI competition, not a test match competition.
Sehwag >>> Afridi in tests
Afridi > Sehwag in ODIs.
I cant make it more clearer than that.
As for that "proof" you gave, public opinion is no proof. Did you know that cricinfo had a poll among all visitors to select teams for the super series ? Did you know that more people voted for Sehwag than Tendulkar ? Going by your logic, Sehwag must be a better batsman than Tendulkar, eh ? Fact is, people vote on nationalistic lines, and also choose the more slam bang player. Popularity polls mean zilch.
saisrini80 said:NO WAY AT ALL! SEHWAG IS NEVER < AFRIDI IN ODI'S! CHECK OUT THE STATS!
Sehwag vs Afridi
Matches: 121 vs 211
Runs: 3581 vs 4678
Batting Average: 31.97 vs 24.23
100's: 7 vs 4
Bow.Avg: 41.25 vs 36.71
SEHWAG WINS IN THE BATTING AVERAGES BY MORE THAN 7 POINTS THAN AFRIDI! AND EVEN THOUGH SEHWAG HAS NOT BEEN THAT BIG OF A BOWLER FOR INDIA, HE JUST LURKS 5 POINTS BEHIND YOUR AFRIDI'S BOWLING AVERAGE (REMEMBER, SEHWAG IS NOT AN ALL ROUNDER BUT JUST A PART TIME BOWLER WHEARAS AFRIDI IS CONSIDERED AN ALL ROUNDER)!
Apparently Afridi is more of an allrounder than Sehwag. But their prime specialist work is batting and so,
SEHWAG >> AFRIDI (IN ODI'S)
No no...Its Sehwags and Sehwagangryangy said:sehwag is better than sehwag? oh no, not another recursive batsman.