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who do you think is going to win the world cup in 2007?

  • Australia

    Votes: 44 22.0%
  • Bangladesh

    Votes: 6 3.0%
  • England

    Votes: 35 17.5%
  • India

    Votes: 49 24.5%
  • New Zealand

    Votes: 8 4.0%
  • Pakistan

    Votes: 36 18.0%
  • South Africa

    Votes: 10 5.0%
  • Sri Lanka

    Votes: 6 3.0%
  • West Indies

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • Zimbabwe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (Scotland/Bermuda/Ireland/Canada/Netherlands/Kenya)

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Total voters
    200
every person will support his country and cheer it on to win the world cup.

But i feel the kiwis are developing into a great side .they also deserve a cup.

But one can happily say that the world cup being 18 months away...there may be a lot of changes in the squads.

For one it would be interesting to see the stars in their last world cup.
australia for one.
india another-tendulkar ,ganuly ,dravid and kumble ..all of them would be on their way out.
same can be said about sri lanka too.
so it would be an exciting watch.
 
For me not because I support India , India deserves a world cup with great players . Tendulkar , Dravid , Ganguly , kumble etc........are all greats Deserves a world cup winners medal , and hold the thropy aloft , dont firget India with inexpierneced players and ganguly as captain did reach the world cup final , with a dissspointing tour with west indies and new zealand proir to the world cup ,and India was struggling at the start of the world cup , but when thier main players was on for and the wholw team was confident India started winning consecative matches , and I cannot forget thier huddle after taking esch wicket and winning each game , thats to show India can win under pressure , and not so long ago in the icc champions thropy in sri lanka India scored 261 and south africa was on the verge of winning needing a further 60 runs in 12 over with 9 wickets in hand to win agian , but with some thight bowling and fieling India won the game by suprise and ganguly made some good fielding and bowling changes . Indias is unbeatable at thier best , proof? the 2003 world cup with a inexpierenced bunch of players mixed with great , inexpierneced players , and India did not need a allrounder , they only needed Srinath , Nhera and z khan to do the damage . India should benifit greatley for the next world cup , as India got the semi-final and final expirence and a good feel from thier last world cup.
 
saisrini80 said:
If you had compared the performance of the Indian team under other Indian captains and under Ganguly, then you would have not have stated this! The thing is, our older captains were so poor that Ganguly's records show him as the most successful captain! He has been too and under him, India at least now look to be serious challengers when before, they were just looking like mere passengers!

Correction: India looked to be serious challengers. Theyre merely number 7 in the ODI rankings now. Stop living in the past.




Answer similar to the one above!

Nope. The basic driving force in life is to keep improving. Will you keep working in a company at a salary of Rs 5000 for the rest of your life ? No. You will naturally want to get promoted and earn more. Similarly in cricket, is it enough to rest on your past achievements ? Has India won more than the couple of tournaments after the WC ? no. The moment a leader cannot pull his men forward its time to find another leader with fresh ideas.

It was Ganguly who saved Dravid from being dropped from the ODI team by handing over the wicketkeep gloves to him temporarily! Check the facts before posting! Ganguly was the one who decided to use Dravid as a makeshift wicketkeeper thereby making the selectors avoid the axing of Dravid from the ODI team! Now, Dravid is the most reliable ODI batsman too thanks to Ganguly! How do you guys so conveniently forget what this guy has did and always try to find faults?

No. Ganguly gave him the gloves because there was no other option available. If India had a keeper with a batting average of 30 then, Ganguly wouldnt have cared about Dravids a$$. It was lack of options which forced Dravid ( he has said so himself) to take the gloves. The fact that he was a reluctant keeper is no secret.

Sriram and Badani score loads of runs in domestic competitions. When they're brought into international cricket, they play as if they're from USA or Malaysia with very little knowledge about cricket!

Compare Badanis record with Yuvrajs. If you say Badani plays shite, it means Yuvraj ( your Gangulys pet) plays shite too.

And Rao now is being given chances. He might prove his worth! I agree Rao was inducted when Dravid was captain. But who cares who backed him?

So when Ganguly backs Yuvraj, he is praised to the skies, but when Dravid backs a player, one isnt supposed to care ?



It was the same Laxman that didnt find favor with the selectors for the World Cup 2003. He expressed his disappointment for it and tried to make an issue out of it. I doubt if Ganguly is persisting with Laxman. After the WC2003, the public and media pressure has made the selectors opt again for Laxman who is not fit at all for ODI cricket!

I agree.



Afridi has been going through a good time and Sehwag through a bad time! WIth these guys, it all just depends on the time that they're going through! Sehwag is definitely more consistent than Afridi always! And Afridi is an all rounder and no denying that. But that doesnt mean he is a better player than Sehwag!

Yes it does. It could change soon. But theres no denying that as things are now, Afridi the ODI player is definitely a better overall player than Sehwag the ODI player.
 
Look , When Ganguly started as captain India was 8th in the test table , and 7th in the odi table back in 2000 , since ealrley 2004 India have climbed the rankings but dropped a bit in the odis , ganguly as never lost a test series agaisnt australia as captain and thats a good record won 1 draw 1 , dravid was the capatin when India lost to the aussies at home in 2004 , and when India lost to the pakistani when ganguly gave India 2-0 series lead , but then again its not the captains fualt the team dont perform. India was series challengers , not looked .

India has been in big and mjor tournment finals but 1 , at least they get into the finals , not just get out of the first round or something like that . And It was Ganguly who saved Dravid from being dropped from the ODI team by handing over the wicketkeep gloves to him temporarily and thats the basic truth Yuvraj is a good player , with some talent , easliy the best fielder in the India team , Yuvraj has won India many matches , dont forget he does bat at num 6 , and ave 30 at num 6 is good , and Ganguly does back all his players .

Afrdi is not a better player than sehwag , check sehwags overall test and odi stats , and compare how many matches as he won with tthe bat . afrdid is incosistant , and so is sehwag in the last year or so , but he will improve and get better . India just needs time , and they will improve , and dont forget the world cup is till 18 months away , and thats a lot of time to improve . I'd like to see who gets picked as an agresser in the world 11 vs aus in the 3 match odi series its either sehwag or afridi , and I bet you its sehwag , we'll see what the world thinks whos better , and by the way the people all around the world have put sehwag in the test and odi mathces in the world 11 vs aus series , that means they must think sehwag is a better player than afrdid , want some proof click here http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/216822.html , it was either going to be sehwag or afridi and they picked sehwag .
 
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Indiangod said:
Look , When Ganguly started as captain India was 8th in the test table , and 7th in the odi table back in 2000 , since ealrley 2004 India have climbed the rankings but dropped a bit in the odis , ganguly as never lost a test series agaisnt australia as captain and thats a good record won 1 draw 1 , dravid was the capatin when India lost to the aussies at home in 2004 , and when India lost to the pakistani when ganguly gave India 2-0 series lead , but then again its not the captains fualt the team dont perform. India was series challengers , not looked . And another thing India has been in big and mjor tournment finals but 1 , at least they get into the finals , not just get out of the first round or something like that . And It was Ganguly who saved Dravid from being dropped from the ODI team by handing over the wicketkeep gloves to him temporarily and thats the basic truth Yuvraj is a good player , with some talent , easliy the best fielder in the India team , Yuvraj has won India many matches , dont forget he does bat at num 6 , and ave 30 at num 6 is good , and Ganguly does back all his players , and no Afrdi is not a better player than sehwag , check sehwags overall test and odi stats , and compare how many matches as he won with tthe bat . afrdid is incosistant , and so is sehwag in the last year or so , but he will improve and get better . India just needs time , and they will improve , and dont forget the world cup is till 18 months away , and thats a lot of time to improve . I'd like to see who gets picked as an agresser in the world 11 vs aus in the 3 match odi series its either sehwag or afridi , and I bet you its sehwag , we'll see what the world thinks whos better , and by the way the people all around the world have put sehwag in the test and odi mathces in the world 11 vs aus series , that means they must think sehwag is a better player than afrdid , want some proof click here http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/216822.html , it was either going to be sehwag or afridi and they picked sehwag .
No offence, but can you please format your posts so that they are easy to read. One big paragraph just makes it look like gibberish.
 
Indiangod said:
Look , When Ganguly started as captain India was 8th in the test table , and 7th in the odi table back in 2000 , since ealrley 2004 India have climbed the rankings but dropped a bit in the odis , ganguly as never lost a test series agaisnt australia as captain and thats a good record won 1 draw 1 , dravid was the capatin when India lost to the aussies at home in 2004 , and when India lost to the pakistani when ganguly gave India 2-0 series lead , but then again its not the captains fualt the team dont perform. India was series challengers , not looked .

hmm...Ganguly was the one who cried about the Nagpur pitch favouring the seamers, Not Dravid.

And number 2, Ganguly did not give India a 2-0 lead against pakistan. It was Sehwag and Dravid and Dhoni who did.

And your posts are extremely funny. Anytime the other batsmen do well, you give the credit to Ganguly. But when India lose, you blame it on the team, not Ganguly. Stop this two facedness. Have some consistency.


Afrdi is not a better player than sehwag , check sehwags overall test and odi stats , and compare how many matches as he won with tthe bat . afrdid is incosistant , and so is sehwag in the last year or so , but he will improve and get better . India just needs time , and they will improve , and dont forget the world cup is till 18 months away , and thats a lot of time to improve . I'd like to see who gets picked as an agresser in the world 11 vs aus in the 3 match odi series its either sehwag or afridi , and I bet you its sehwag , we'll see what the world thinks whos better , and by the way the people all around the world have put sehwag in the test and odi mathces in the world 11 vs aus series , that means they must think sehwag is a better player than afrdid , want some proof click here http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/216822.html , it was either going to be sehwag or afridi and they picked sehwag .

: Bangs head on the wall repeatedly :

Is it too much to ask you to differentiate between ODIs and tests ? Thw World Cup ( which is what this frikkin thread is about) is an ODI competition, not a test match competition.

Sehwag >>> Afridi in tests

Afridi > Sehwag in ODIs.

I cant make it more clearer than that.

As for that "proof" you gave, public opinion is no proof. Did you know that cricinfo had a poll among all visitors to select teams for the super series ? Did you know that more people voted for Sehwag than Tendulkar ? Going by your logic, Sehwag must be a better batsman than Tendulkar, eh ? Fact is, people vote on nationalistic lines, and also choose the more slam bang player. Popularity polls mean zilch.
 
Indiangod said:
Look , When Ganguly started as captain India was 8th in the test table , and 7th in the odi table back in 2000 , since ealrley 2004 India have climbed the rankings but dropped a bit in the odis , ganguly as never lost a test series agaisnt australia as captain and thats a good record won 1 draw 1 , dravid was the capatin when India lost to the aussies at home in 2004 , and when India lost to the pakistani when ganguly gave India 2-0 series lead , but then again its not the captains fualt the team dont perform. India was series challengers , not looked .

India has been in big and mjor tournment finals but 1 , at least they get into the finals , not just get out of the first round or something like that . And It was Ganguly who saved Dravid from being dropped from the ODI team by handing over the wicketkeep gloves to him temporarily and thats the basic truth Yuvraj is a good player , with some talent , easliy the best fielder in the India team , Yuvraj has won India many matches , dont forget he does bat at num 6 , and ave 30 at num 6 is good , and Ganguly does back all his players .

Afrdi is not a better player than sehwag , check sehwags overall test and odi stats , and compare how many matches as he won with tthe bat . afrdid is incosistant , and so is sehwag in the last year or so , but he will improve and get better . India just needs time , and they will improve , and dont forget the world cup is till 18 months away , and thats a lot of time to improve . I'd like to see who gets picked as an agresser in the world 11 vs aus in the 3 match odi series its either sehwag or afridi , and I bet you its sehwag , we'll see what the world thinks whos better , and by the way the people all around the world have put sehwag in the test and odi mathces in the world 11 vs aus series , that means they must think sehwag is a better player than afrdid , want some proof click here http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/216822.html , it was either going to be sehwag or afridi and they picked sehwag .

Indiangod, stop arguing here man! It is a waste arguing here. Ganguly deserves more praise than the hate that he is getting! People are so obsessed with showing their brickbats on him that we're probably wasting our time here!

Lets just sit back and watch Ganguly jam the a*s of his detractors and critics who have it as their hobby to keep pouncing on him!
 
saisrini80 said:
Indiangod, stop arguing here man! It is a waste arguing here. Ganguly deserves more praise than the hate that he is getting! People are so obsessed with showing their brickbats on him that we're probably wasting our time here!

Lets just sit back and watch Ganguly jam the a*s of his detractors and critics who have it as their hobby to keep pouncing on him!


Your right on the money .
 
Cricketville said:
Afridi > Sehwag in ODIs.

NO WAY AT ALL! SEHWAG IS NEVER < AFRIDI IN ODI'S! CHECK OUT THE STATS!

Sehwag vs Afridi

Matches: 121 vs 211

Runs: 3581 vs 4678

Batting Average: 31.97 vs 24.23

100's: 7 vs 4

Bow.Avg: 41.25 vs 36.71

SEHWAG WINS IN THE BATTING AVERAGES BY MORE THAN 7 POINTS THAN AFRIDI! AND EVEN THOUGH SEHWAG HAS NOT BEEN THAT BIG OF A BOWLER FOR INDIA, HE JUST LURKS 5 POINTS BEHIND YOUR AFRIDI'S BOWLING AVERAGE (REMEMBER, SEHWAG IS NOT AN ALL ROUNDER BUT JUST A PART TIME BOWLER WHEARAS AFRIDI IS CONSIDERED AN ALL ROUNDER)!

Apparently Afridi is more of an allrounder than Sehwag. But their prime specialist work is batting and so,

SEHWAG >> AFRIDI (IN ODI'S)
 
Cricketville said:
hmm...Ganguly was the one who cried about the Nagpur pitch favouring the seamers, Not Dravid.

And number 2, Ganguly did not give India a 2-0 lead against pakistan. It was Sehwag and Dravid and Dhoni who did.

And your posts are extremely funny. Anytime the other batsmen do well, you give the credit to Ganguly. But when India lose, you blame it on the team, not Ganguly. Stop this two facedness. Have some consistency.




: Bangs head on the wall repeatedly :

Is it too much to ask you to differentiate between ODIs and tests ? Thw World Cup ( which is what this frikkin thread is about) is an ODI competition, not a test match competition.

Sehwag >>> Afridi in tests

Afridi > Sehwag in ODIs.

I cant make it more clearer than that.

As for that "proof" you gave, public opinion is no proof. Did you know that cricinfo had a poll among all visitors to select teams for the super series ? Did you know that more people voted for Sehwag than Tendulkar ? Going by your logic, Sehwag must be a better batsman than Tendulkar, eh ? Fact is, people vote on nationalistic lines, and also choose the more slam bang player. Popularity polls mean zilch.

I'm not really going to bother replying to your post , some of its not even true , ganguly is the second best captain in the world today , and sehwags a much better player than afrdi . And must you pick on ganguly? , and the Indian team ? . You'll see in 18 months time were India as gotten to.

saisrini80 said:
NO WAY AT ALL! SEHWAG IS NEVER < AFRIDI IN ODI'S! CHECK OUT THE STATS!

Sehwag vs Afridi

Matches: 121 vs 211

Runs: 3581 vs 4678

Batting Average: 31.97 vs 24.23

100's: 7 vs 4

Bow.Avg: 41.25 vs 36.71

SEHWAG WINS IN THE BATTING AVERAGES BY MORE THAN 7 POINTS THAN AFRIDI! AND EVEN THOUGH SEHWAG HAS NOT BEEN THAT BIG OF A BOWLER FOR INDIA, HE JUST LURKS 5 POINTS BEHIND YOUR AFRIDI'S BOWLING AVERAGE (REMEMBER, SEHWAG IS NOT AN ALL ROUNDER BUT JUST A PART TIME BOWLER WHEARAS AFRIDI IS CONSIDERED AN ALL ROUNDER)!

Apparently Afridi is more of an allrounder than Sehwag. But their prime specialist work is batting and so,

SEHWAG >> AFRIDI (IN ODI'S)

Does that explian to you now cricketville sehwags a much better player than afridi?.
 
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I don't think India should be on that list. It will be a miracle if their still playing ODIs by then...

angryangy said:
sehwag is better than sehwag? oh no, not another recursive batsman.
No no...Its Sehwags and Sehwag:p
 

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