Ashes to Ashes Mafia - Endgame (SK win)

[ste_mc_efc]

I don't think we have enough to lynch of WC. My read is pretty cold, he could be literally anything and with losing a cop early i'm not sure we can afford to lynch off a town power role.

However it does smell a little bit like his mafia teammate has told him to be quiet as he has been giving it away so i'm erring on the side of suspicion. Maybe his teammate has said to check with him before posting anything, but hasn't been active much? maybe someone like Simon.

in fact I've just realised I have no idea who Simon actually is. Presumably it's a reasonably recent name change, so I'm going to lynch him on the basis I don't like being confused.

lynch simon

 

[thedon5]

Simon is new as well, that would be one of the least likely Mafia combos, Simon and WC...

 

[thedon5]

Unlynch: WC

Since I'm going to bed I'll say that I wasn't serious in lynching WC. Since we were unsure of who to go after, I thought I'd try and wheedle out someone who would agree and want to lynch him.

Lynching WC is a bad idea. If we lynch him and he turns up as town, and the Mafia and the SK both perform successful kills on townies, that leaves us with just three townies, an SK and two Mafia members, making it an uphill battle.

So we definitely have to try and isolate a Mafia member today instead of giving up and going for WC.

 

[SiriusBlack]

edited

 

[thedon5]

I think it's just a joke lynch or one that is not serious at all.

Don't look too far into it.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

I think it's just a joke lynch or one that is not serious at all.

Don't look too far into it.

Pretty much this.

 

[Varun]

Reading this, but just not enough time to analyze properly. I'm getting not-positive vibes from CG, and of course WC is under suspicion. But still not sure if that translates to legitimate scum behavior. More in a while!

 

[Manly]

Larger than life character being Gene Hunt, do we think? EASILY my favourite character from AtA and LoM.

 

[CremerCurrans]

Was hoping to see that someone had replaced WC this morning. It's starting to get suspicious that he hasn't posted yet.

 

[CG123]

Reading this, but just not enough time to analyze properly. I'm getting not-positive vibes from CG, and of course WC is under suspicion. But still not sure if that translates to legitimate scum behavior. More in a while!

Care to explain?

This game is just not going anywhere atm. Every time I come on here at least someone has posted something along the lines of they'll do some actual analysis soon, and never end up doing any.

I posted what I thought was some pretty interesting stuff yesterday, but no one really took any notice of it. At the start of the day we had pretty much a whole page of write-up analysis, which is essentially useless atm unless we can link it to anyone which I was trying to do with User since he's all we've got to go off. Five people posting paragraph one is a role blocker, paragraph three was the mafia failing to kill doesn't help us remotely in terms of finding out who's mafia.

I'll go back to what I said before about User since unless anyone else knows anything else that's all I have to go on. For all intensive purposes it looks like he was he the cop, since Wiki has his character's Occupation as Police Officer. The write-up states "She was rightly suspicious of the quiet man", which again I assume means that he got back a positive result, so we should be trying to work out who we think he investigated last night. On day one the only people he publicly talked about were WC and swirler. What are the chances that he just simply investigated WC? Also add to that that today he hasn't posted a single thing, like someone said before has he been told to not post anything by his mafia partner to try and confuse us more?

I'm definitely interested in hearing what swirler and Simon have to say so far. They've just been posting a host of one liners so far mainly about the write-up, which are consistent with someone trying to play under the radar and not really help us. Other than WC what are your guys thoughts on other players? Manly's also been playing similarly. Hasn't really posted much substance, just a one liner every day or so mainly about WC. Only a couple of you are giving off pro-town vibes for me, the rest of you just seem to be sitting and waiting to see what happens. Like I said before though I haven't played with a lot of you, so I'm not sure if that's down to inexperience or just how you normally play.

 

[thedon5]

Manly always tends to post like that. So it's hard to think about whether that's him giving off town or Mafia vibes.

The last time I played with RPHKR he was playing exactly as he is now and he turned out being Mafia. Extensive write-up analysis to make it look like he was trying to help the town, and then all but disappearing unless he was getting onto a lynch bandwagon. Better keep a watch on him.

That is what most of the guys here are doing. We've just heard some opinion from Varun and CG, which is what we need. I find it odd that Varun went straight for CG of all people when he was definitely adding to the game. But again IIRC that is how Varun plays.

Simon is supposedly new but he is refraining from doing much either. It's hard to get a read on newer players like him, but I feel he doesn't give off Mafia vibes to too large an extent.

Ste has added very little other than his joke lynch on Simon and his explanation of WC's gameplay. He is quite experienced so I could definitely see Colin using him and one of WC or Simon as a Mafia team.

WC is useless but we can't lynch him. We just have to hope he is replaced by someone better or starts contributing. As it stands if he is town the Mafia or SK won't kill him and if he is Mafia he is getting a free ride. He really needs to be replaced as his play is quite unfair to the town...

Swirler is a tough one, I see that CG makes a very good point but his gameplay seems good so far so it's hard to say. He is to some extent showing his opinions.

 

[CG123]

Manly always tends to post like that. So it's hard to think about whether that's him giving off town or Mafia vibes.

I actually remember him playing a bit like that in the past as well.

The last time I played with RPHKR he was playing exactly as he is now and he turned out being Mafia. Extensive write-up analysis to make it look like he was trying to help the town, and then all but disappearing unless he was getting onto a lynch bandwagon. Better keep a watch on him.

That's a bit like what I saying before. Like five people posted the same thing re the write-up, and most of them have added very little in terms of what they think towards actually finding who's mafia.

That is what most of the guys here are doing. We've just heard some opinion from Varun and CG, which is what we need. I find it odd that Varun went straight for CG of all people when he was definitely adding to the game. But again IIRC that is how Varun plays.

Yeah, I wasn't going to comment on that until he actually asked me some stuff properly because I honestly have no reply to him just saying I'm giving him negative vibes, but if he was mafia it would be very strange of him to just come out and say that, unless he's working with WC and they're trying to confuse the hell out of us or something, although I'm definitely more suspicious of those who have just made those write-up analysis' and giving nothing in terms of their thoughts.

Simon is supposedly new but he is refraining from doing much either. It's hard to get a read on newer players like him, but I feel he doesn't give off Mafia vibes to too large an extent.

Agree with you there, I think most of us kind of take a backseat when we first start.

Ste has added very little other than his joke lynch on Simon and his explanation of WC's gameplay. He is quite experienced so I could definitely see Colin using him and one of WC or Simon as a Mafia team.

I'm just having a look at the stats and it says that he's only played one game. I guess he's someone who'd pick-up the concept a lot easier than some others though.

WC is useless but we can't lynch him. We just have to hope he is replaced by someone better or starts contributing. As it stands if he is town the Mafia or SK won't kill him and if he is Mafia he is getting a free ride. He really needs to be replaced as his play is quite unfair to the town...

Yeah, although at the end of the day there's nothing stopping him from playing that way, he could legitimately be trying to piss us off.

Swirler is a tough one, I see that CG makes a very good point but his gameplay seems good so far so it's hard to say. He is to some extent showing his opinions.

What do you mean by good? I'm just having a look through his posts and he hasn't really given us anything.

 

[CremerCurrans]

I'm not sure what to say. I'm not aware of being investigated last night by User, although I probably wouldn't know if I was.

I noticed your post about that previously, It's an important clue because it's clearly mentioned in the Day 2 write-up. Just think it's going to be hard to work-out who it was.

I haven't gathered any major suspicions on anyone yet, just been trying to think what the roles in the game are. There hasn't been any mention of a doctor in the game so I'm starting to think that the role blocker is on the town side. There's a cop, two mafia, one being the godfather, serial killer & the last two being Miller/hated townie & a possible commuter. With the last three possibly just being vanilla townies.

 

[thedon5]

Ste has only played once or twice, but he played on IRC quite a bit I believe elsewhere. He had it fully down halfway through his first game and played well.

The point you made on swirler perhaps being investigated by User as he was suspicious of him and getting a positive result is a good point.

A possibility is that Varun is the cop or follower/tracker/watcher and saw that you were around someone important. I would like Varun to clear it up.

@swirler: Yeah it's also possible though that both the Mafia and the town have a roleblocker. Or maybe a Mafia roleblocker and a town jailkeeper.

 

[CremerCurrans]

Thanks, missed that. Jailkeeper is a strong possibility. Have trouble picking what the roles are in game.