Australia A tour of Zimbabwe

[aussie1st]

That's more like the Butterworth from our domestic comp. Selectors might end up going with him instead of Copeland due to his batting but one thing him and Copeland are showing is they can get wickets on the slower decks against Test players.

Krejza back to his usual economy, at this rate we would have been better off with Beer in for Siddle to see if he would go any better.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

That's more like the Butterworth from our domestic comp. Selectors might end up going with him instead of Copeland due to his batting but one thing him and Copeland are showing is they can get wickets on the slower decks against Test players.

Krejza back to his usual economy, at this rate we would have been better off with Beer in for Siddle to see if he would go any better.

Butterworth is about as close to the test squad as... I don't know, Cameron White? Which is pretty darn far from it.

Copeland might be a bit closer but I doubt it somehow. Our selectors appear to want either batting all-rounders or bowlers who are quicker than either of them. After all, despite him performing well with the ball, MacDonald got pretty short shrift.

 

[War]

At this stage of this tour im not too sure how seriously we can guage the performances of the players given how weak this side is. After all its not as if they are playing the A-Team of India, South Africa or England.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

At this stage of this tour im not too sure how seriously we can guage the performances of the players given how weak this side is. After all its not as if they are playing the A-Team of India, South Africa or England.

They did beat the one day A team of South Africa three times in a row, so it's not completely invalid. Especially with a youngster like Marsh. It's very good experience for both him and someone like Warner.

 

[angryangy]

hilarious opening batting combo

 

[aussie1st]

Wouldn't look out of place in the OD setup. Khawaja will want some runs on this pitch.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Wouldn't look out of place in the OD setup. Khawaja will want some runs on this pitch.

It's deadybones, isn't it?

 

[aussie1st]

Talk about carnage puts into perspective the wickets Copeland, Butterworth and Starc got. Hopefully both get a double 100 then retire and let Marsh and Khawaja get a go.

 

[aussie1st]

Krejza and Starc saved the lower to middle order else it was a pretty poor performance after the openers got out. Khawaja really hasn't cashed in on this tour and Marsh batting has been disappointing.

A very good start for the bowlers, Copeland doing his thing while Starc really getting into the Zimbabwe batsmen. No wickets for Siddle once again.

 

[sifter132]

Butterworth is about as close to the test squad as... I don't know, Cameron White? Which is pretty darn far from it.

Copeland might be a bit closer but I doubt it somehow. Our selectors appear to want either batting all-rounders or bowlers who are quicker than either of them. After all, despite him performing well with the ball, MacDonald got pretty short shrift.

Well in one of my more inspired moments () I raised the name of James Hopes for Test selection as a #7. Butterworth or McDonald would be similar. Steve Smith is almost surely going to be the #7 for the SL tour and given that, it seems either the selectors are rabid Smith fanboys or they realise the need for a 5th (or 6th bowling option), so it might make sense to find a seam bowling all-rounder to play that 5th bowler role in SA and back in Aus for the summer. I'm not sure that's what I would do, but I could see it happening... I'd rather keep Watson bowling myself. Once he's in rhythm he does quite a decent job.

 

[War]

They did beat the one day A team of South Africa three times in a row, so it's not completely invalid. Especially with a youngster like Marsh. It's very good experience for both him and someone like Warner.

Ye i mean more so the Zimbabwe leg of the tour.

 

[Num]

If only Krejza were ripping through Zimbabwe A, we could take these performances more seriously.

Given the performances of Kumar in England providing further evidence is not a necessity to take wickets at Test level (albeit in helpful conditions), I'm warming more to the idea of giving Copeland a run in the Test team, as has been mentioned, his accuracy would provide Australia's presently wayward pace attack with some much-needed control. Surely as he develops further as a bowler and with the help of Australia's coaching staff, Copeland could add another 5 km/h or so if pace is such an issue.

 

[War]

If only Krejza were ripping through Zimbabwe A, we could take these performances more seriously.

Huh?

Given the performances of Kumar in England providing further evidence is not a necessity to take wickets at Test level (albeit in helpful conditions), I'm warming more to the idea of giving Copeland a run in the Test team, as has been mentioned, his accuracy would provide Australia's presently wayward pace attack with some much-needed control. Surely as he develops further as a bowler and with the help of Australia's coaching staff, Copeland could add another 5 km/h or so if pace is such an issue.

The thing with Kumar though is that he swings the ball very big both ways and given the English conditions are overcast this season, he is likely to remain effective. I dont think he would be very effective on flat surfaces.

Copeland based on the couple times i saw him bowl on live stream in the AUS domestic season looks more like McGrath/S Pollock style seam bowler. So if its as some have been saying that his pace is below 130 mph most of the time, i'd still have my reservations.

Plus if Hilfenahus can find his S Africa 09 to IND 2010 mojo back, he would bring control to the way-ward pace attack while bowling in solid pace. Thus we wont have to look @ Copeland.

 

[Num]

Huh?



The thing with Kumar though is that he swings the ball very big both ways and given the English conditions are overcast this season, he is likely to remain effective. I dont think he would be very effective on flat surfaces.

Copeland based on the couple times i saw him bowl on live stream in the AUS domestic season looks more like McGrath/S Pollock style seam bowler. So if its as some have been saying that his pace is below 130 mph most of the time, i'd still have my reservations.

Plus if Hilfenahus can find his S Africa 09 to IND 2010 mojo back, he would bring control to the way-ward pace attack while bowling in solid pace. Thus we wont have to look @ Copeland.

Domestically, Kumar's managed to take 184 wickets at 22.94 on flat Indian pitches so he's hardly an overcast conditions, green-top specialist. Ideally Hilfenhaus would return to form like you said, but Australia can't afford to wait too long for him to come around.

 

[aussie1st]

Hilfy is gone, shouldn't be near the side until he finds form again with Tassie.

As for Copeland he can swing the ball both ways like Kumar but what he has on his side is his height. Now is the time to get him into the lineup.