Australia vs England ODI Series - 7 matches - Sep 4 to Sep 20

[Hooper]

What the hell? England selectors may be stupider then Aussie ones?

:what

 

[King Pietersen]

Such a stupid team selection. The Aussies aren't playing spin well in the middle overs, and Rashid was excellent in the last game, so it really doesn't make any sense.

Shane Watson is a superb ODi player. Averaging over 40 and just looks so good at the crease. Don't think any of the Aussies could justify slagging him off now. Been excellent on this tour.

 

[aussie1st]

Paine looking good now that his partner didn't run him out for a duck! Watson has always been a good shorter form player ever since he moved to opener.

 

[Gilly Fan]

Finally Paine trying to up the tempo. It's a powerplay and we're defending.

Edit: Watson gone going after one. Great catch from Wright.

 

[Themer]

Good catch from Wright then and a wicket for Bresnan after I'd slagged him off. He hasn't done too badly but he doesn't look threatening either.

England could do with a few more wicket as Australia are going to sit on these wickets till the last ten before going for it.

 

[aussie1st]

And now we are in the dumps. Paine trying to smack Wright out of the ground, he should have just settled down since the powerplay was over.

 

[King Pietersen]

This spell pretty much sums up Tim Bresnan. Very average, decent enough but not particularly threatening unless it's hooping round corners. He can do a job when we've got injuries, but I'd rather see Dimi Mascheranas or Graham Napier in there personally.

I swear this is England batting. Awful stuff from Australia really, relying on the lower order to up the pace. Paine gone, good catch from Morgan.

 

[Themer]

And another one Paine trying to go big and a good catch from Morgan, just what we needed.

Wright's had a very good start to this match a good catch and now a wicket.

 

[aussie1st]

I swear this is England batting. Awful stuff from Australia really, relying on the lower order to up the pace. Paine gone, good catch from Morgan.

Yea we are awful in ODIs now. Even with Haddin in the side we still lack that explosive player outside of White. This is why I've been calling for the likes of Warner, Quinley to be opening just to bring that factor back.

 

[angryangy]

Disappointing, but not because of the run rate. I've seen a lot of games where the early start favours the seam bowlers and it pays to be patient rather than collapse. The run rate wasn't that bad; we're only talking about 3 or 4 boundaries short of an excellent run rate. Alas the pressure got to them and now they're in a lot more trouble than they ever were.

 

[Gilly Fan]

Yea we are awful in ODIs now. Even with Haddin in the side we still lack that explosive player outside of White. This is why I've been calling for the likes of Warner, Quinley to be opening just to bring that factor back.

White is hardly what you call 'explosive' now. He knows that his career is on the line, and he doesn't want to end his career trying to hit the ball to Singapore. He's trying to dig deep and get a big knock. His strike rate was around 70 in the latest game. We do not have any explosive batsmen like Gilchrist or Hayden in the team at the moment. The only batsman that can do this is Ponting and he's back at home.

 

[cricketmad09]

Each and every one of the selectors should be fired for the team they have in. This is NOT Australia's best team.

Tim Paine should not be in the team. Not only is he not good enough to make runs but he is painfully slow. So in the end not only does he not score runs he uses up deliveries making no runs which means he is a liability to the team.

James Hopes shouldn't be in the team. He doesn't have the ability to score more than a run a ball down the lower order and only has an average of 24. We can use Watson as the 5th bowler so we don't need Hopes as an all-rounder. We need to be playing Voges instead because he can play sensibly and make a big innings, however he has the shots in his repoitore to be able to score very quickly at the end.

We need more strikers as well. We need more players who can hit big shots and up the run rate which will alleviate pressure on the batsman. The batters we have in the team at the moment don't have that ability apart from White and Watson.

The batting line up is fragile and very concerning. We definately need more strength and more fire power in the line-up otherwise we will lose this ODI series.

 

[aussie1st]

Disappointing, but not because of the run rate. I've seen a lot of games where the early start favours the seam bowlers and it pays to be patient rather than collapse. The run rate wasn't that bad; we're only talking about 3 or 4 boundaries short of an excellent run rate. Alas the pressure got to them and now they're in a lot more trouble than they ever were.

3-4 boundaries for an excellent run rate? I wouldn't call just under 6 an excellent run rate. So if we add that onto our score at the 15th over stage we would have been around 80 which is 5.3 an over far from excellent. And this isn't something that is just occurring today or even this series, its occurred ever since Hayden and Gilly left. If we are serious about winning the World Cup we need to be at least 90 runs by the 15 over mark. An "excellent" run rate would be 100+.

White is hardly what you call 'explosive' now. He knows that his career is on the line, and he doesn't want to end his career trying to hit the ball to Singapore. He's trying to dig deep and get a big knock. His strike rate was around 70 in the latest game. We do not have any explosive batsmen like Gilchrist or Hayden in the team at the moment. The only batsman that can do this is Ponting and he's back at home.

He might not be explosive but hes the only guy that can hit it big in the lineup. Every batter has a slow day, I'm sure you could find a few innings where Hayden and Gilly scored at 70. Adam Voges is a decent enough hitter as well. Outside of the squad as I mentioned you have Warner, Quinley, Birt who are big hitters. They may not be Gilly and Hayden but give them time and they may mould into that role.

 

[Gilly Fan]

Tim Paine should not be in the team. Not only is he not good enough to make runs but he is painfully slow. So in the end not only does he not score runs he uses up deliveries making no runs which means he is a liability to the team.

We need more strikers as well. We need more players who can hit big shots and up the run rate which will alleviate pressure on the batsman. The batters we have in the team at the moment don't have that ability apart from White and Watson.

Who else do we play? Luke Ronchi? He was dropped from WA last summer and will not be in our future. I don't think that any of our keepers outside of our Haddin are quick run scorers.

I agree with you on the second point. We can't have a whole team of nudgers. We don't have someone like Symonds or Hayden who can take the game away from you like that. I'd contemplate bringing in someone like Warner or Quiner whom we can use as a pinch hitter at the top of the order. Someone who can get the scoreboard ticking. Probably not Warner as he needs to develop an offside game and has already been found out by international sides, but surely there is someone who plays that role in domestic cricket.

 

[cricketmad09]

Yea we are awful in ODIs now. Even with Haddin in the side we still lack that explosive player outside of White. This is why I've been calling for the likes of Warner, Quinley to be opening just to bring that factor back.

Quiney should never play international cricket. He has no natural ability and will be found out against international attacks.

There is something wrong with the mindsets in ODI cricket at the moment. We have the opening 10-15 overs where there are only 2 men outside the circle yet the opening batsmen are more than happy to score at 4 runs per over. That is unacceptable. Teams also try to play too conservatively while chasing and leave themselves with 8-10 runs an over in the last 10 relying on being able to slog for the win. That screams of stupidity to play conservatively when the outfield is free however attack when there are players all around the boundary.

Players need to take the game on a bit more. They can't be afraid to hit 4's in the middle overs and play aggressive, but smart cricket.

At the moment there is no point watching ODI cricket because it doesn't have the extravagance and excitement of the 20/20 format, but it doesn't have the enthrallment and competitiveness of a test match.

I think i'll do my homework instead.