FOOTBALL Fifa 10

[evertonfan]

OFMG WHAT A GOAL CULLI JUST SCORED ON CLUBS.

That is all.

 

[Hooper]

Uhh, I have FIFA 09. I'm thinking of just making the transfers myself and not bother with '10 on the 360.

evo, your a 360 man, how is it on it? I may get it if Manager Mode is better.

 

[iridescentt]

On the 360 its alright I guess. You just gotta' try and block out all the stories about bugs/errors in your mind and just keep playing.

You know I heard one story about someone using Arsenal in their Manager Mode and funnily enough Theo Walcott wasn't even in the game Obviously as I don't give a rats about Arsenal, the only main gripe with me about the game in general is the pace, the MM transfer bug and the bug where if you score a goal your GK gets the assist. Other then that and the mountain of errors they made with kits * cough * Notts County kits are all wrong * cough * then it's a top game </cringes>

 

[shravi]

Nah Hooper, just get '10. I haven't played it on NG but it's gotten very good reviews saying that it's much better than 09.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

On the 360 its alright I guess. You just gotta' try and block out all the stories about bugs/errors in your mind and just keep playing.

You know I heard one story about someone using Arsenal in their Manager Mode and funnily enough Theo Walcott wasn't even in the game Obviously as I don't give a rats about Arsenal, the only main gripe with me about the game in general is the pace, the MM transfer bug and the bug where if you score a goal your GK gets the assist. Other then that and the mountain of errors they made with kits * cough * Notts County kits are all wrong * cough * then it's a top game </cringes>

I've found that since joining forums to find out about games, I've been told of many, many bugs that I would never have picked up on if I didn't go to the forum (Rome Total War was a great example). Sometimes, ignorance is bliss, especially if you're enjoying the game.

 

[iridescentt]

But sometimes you just wonder how a big name series like Fifa let this kind of stuff in the final product.

 

[shravi]

What are some of the bugs being mentioned?

 

[treva]

On the 360 its alright I guess. You just gotta' try and block out all the stories about bugs/errors in your mind and just keep playing.

You know I heard one story about someone using Arsenal in their Manager Mode and funnily enough Theo Walcott wasn't even in the game Obviously as I don't give a rats about Arsenal, the only main gripe with me about the game in general is the pace, the MM transfer bug and the bug where if you score a goal your GK gets the assist. Other then that and the mountain of errors they made with kits * cough * Notts County kits are all wrong * cough * then it's a top game </cringes>

I'm sure you can alter the speed in settings can't you?

 

[iridescentt]

Yes you can but the slow speed FIFA 10 is like the medium speed in FIFA 09, if not even faster than the medium speed in 09.

 

[Covvy]

To be honest I reckon the speeds okay. It gets slower and slower as the match progresses due to stamina.

 

[iridescentt]

What are some of the bugs being mentioned?

Here is the bugs list just for MM as compiled by a poster on the Fifa 10 forum.

55 item Manager Mode bug list

1) The Manager Mode freezing bug (where you can’t progress without your console locking up) is still there. One person has suffered from this and noticed that in his last save before this occurs, one of his strikers has no name and next to the form icon it says “-10118”.

2) It has been reported that transfers “lock” altogether after a certain amount of seasons (being linked to a disc problem).

3) All teams below the Premier League have their tactics set to all-70s. Applies to other leagues/teams as well, see Australia, Brazil and others.

4) All assists are credited to the goalkeeper.

5) Players you loan out can be sold by the clubs you loaned them to.

6) Newly signed players vanish from your squad with no warning. They just disappear, and then if you look them up they’re playing for someone else.

7) When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two – when I only have one.

When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I’m told I can’t sign them because I “already have two players on loan”.

9) 90% of matches in England are played at night in the rain regardless of stadium choice. I’ve yet to see a match played in the daytime with sunny weather.

10) Seasonal changes don’t seem to affect the weather. So in England, in the summer, you will see rain and even snow with no games being played in sunshine.

11) Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren’t getting first-team football elsewhere.)

12) Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one!

13) The board sack you even if you occupy first place. You can expect to be fired at the mid-way point of the season if you lose a cup game, even if you’re in the top four of the league, especially in the Premier League. Even in the lower leagues, I’ve seen situations where games are won 6-0 every week for months and suddenly you’re fired the moment you draw 1-1.

14) When playing against teams who are better than you, your board always expect you to beat that team. I mostly play as a League 1 team, and if I’m beaten by a Championship or Premier League side I get a board comment that states I was “expected to win the game”, and occasionally you will get the sack for this. This may be because teams aren’t recognised in their correct division; for example, when losing against a team from the league above you, you will occasionally get a message that says you should have done better against “lower league opposition”.

15) The assistant manager, even when turned off, will sometimes swap your players around.

16) The assistant manager AI is terrible. It will choose players with no fitness (10%-20%) to play out of position, over players with 100% fitness who can play in that position. See below for more info.

17) The AI management of other clubs is terrible. Examples; Chelsea play Terry at LB with Cole at CB in the same match, Man Utd play Vidic and Ferdinand as LB/RB with Brown and Evra as CBs in the same match, Giggs gets played at LB occasionally, etc. etc. etc.

1 The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star.

19) The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP!

20) I’ve seen one injury in two seasons; Marcel promised this lack of injuries – and especially this lack of SERIOUS injuries – was fixed for FIFA 10. This is simply not true.

21) Injuries don’t last for a long enough period of time. For example, a hamstring injury should keep a player out for a month – in FIFA 10 it’s a week.

22) When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, and you can’t change the ball yourself.

23) Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality.

24) Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it’s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed).

25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.

26) FA Cup games are all played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final.

27) The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.

2 The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating?

29) Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn’t see his strength increase.

30) Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don’t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You’re forced to spend 1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.)

31) The league table that shows up at the start of each game is never correct (same as FIFA 09). It always shows you in 6th-9th position regardless of whether you’re in the top half or the bottom half of the table, and your opponents are shown in an incorrect position as well.

32) When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn’t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!

33) When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that.

34) Often you are not told why a player has refused to sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players.

35) Sometimes when trying to sign a player they’ll say e.g. they get a “bad vibe” from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they’ll sign for you. Doesn’t make much sense.

36) You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it’s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest.

37) As a manager with a reputation level of half-a-star, you sometimes get comments from the board that “a manager of your calibre should be performing better”.

3 You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances.

39) The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets.

40) Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they’re just not being displayed?)

41) Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren’t counted in the player’s statistics.

42) When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.

43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week you’ll get a notice on the transfers screen that they’ve signed for that same club. Again.

44) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they’ll have signed for somebody else!

45) When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player’s actual ratings are.

46) When selling a player, the whole squad gets moved around. Player roles are also moved around.

47) When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can’t they be given a number that isn’t in use?

4 Stadia never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections.

49) Player search parameters constantly reset when searching for a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender rated 60-70, then you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input them again.

50) Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed.

51) Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn’t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won’t be able to find him anywhere but in the “Created Players” section and you’ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" – you can’t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.

52) Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. “5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0” when it’s 1-1, “I have to say he’s on one of the worst runs of his career” when he’s already scored in the match you’re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you’ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it’s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).

NEW ONES:

53) People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition.

54) Sometimes strange things happen with the amount of transfer funds, one person reported going from having millions to spend to being 2.5 BILLION in debt.

55) For the new season you're supposed to receive new transfer funds, new wage budget to reflect new income for that season, people are reporting they start the new season with the same money they ended the last one.

Like MB said, ignorance is bliss, but some you just can't pass.

 

[Hooper]

I just snapped fifa09.

Absolutely sick of it. In MM with United, won the F.A cup against Portsmouth, good game. Score was 2-1 in extra time thanks to a double from Berbatov. Then first game of season against Liverpool... Absolute joke, I had hardly no possesion, something like 35% and got no shots on target with them getting a goal because VDS kicked a goal kick out straight Torres who lollypopped it back for a goal.. 0-1. Frustrating.

Next match is Chelsea, I hit the bar 3 times! Including an open goal chance with Owen which resulted in hitting the cross bar then somehow hitting the upright then being cleared... They get another cheersy goal with Drogba getting on a ridiculous run off a (near) field long through ball. 0-1 the final score. By this time I'm throwing my controller at the wall...

Next up.. Everton. Now I thought this would be a good game.. Nope. Every pass just gets picked off, every through ball gets picked off, every tackle I give results in a free kick, every time I make a run with Valencia or Nani they get barged off the ball and fall to the tweaking ground. Yakubu or whatever his name is scores a joke of a goal before half time..0-1. A cross from Arteta is headed by Crouch but VDS saves it, but cant hold on, so Cahill goes the header, same thing happens, rebounds off, then Yakubu runs in about 20m and gets a clear header off and goes in with my 'keeper just leaving the goal open.

At this stage I throw the controller, press eject on the Xbox and snap this disc in about 4 pieces.

fearsome tweak you Fifa.

 

[Covvy]

Mate buy a next-gen console and get fifa 10

 

[Hooper]

This is on my 360.

 

[Covvy]

LOL, get Fifa 10 still. Pity you don't have a PS3, then I could beat you online!