India in England Jun-Sept 2014

I remember Dhawal Kulkarni playing for India before .. but can anyone recall what speeds he bowls at ? I think he is another one of those Vinay-Praveen-Munaf type who bowls in the 120-130 range.

Dhawal Kulkarni is certainly not the Vinay Kumar range. He is more 135-140'ish.
 
Off Topic, but I was having a discussion with a friend, so thought I will ask. Which is the best Test match you have ever seen?

To avoid bias, if you favorite test match involves the team you support then also try and name one neutral test match.
 
India vs Australia, Eden Gardens, Kolkata, 2001. Nothing beats it, but a neutral match would be England vs Australia, Edgbaston, Birmingham, 2005.
 
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Yeah the Eden Gardens one was really great, I would vote that the best ever. The thing is it would be interesting to get some Aussie fan's perpective on it though. I see only one in this thread he posts very rarely but he has an anti-Ind attitude about him. Seems to have taken the bantering after India beat Aus 2013 a little too seriously. If there are any neutral Aussie fans here though, I would really like to hear their opinion on it, because two sides play a test.
 
Obviously, my most favorite test is an India game, but I am going to be different here and pick a game where India so heartbreakingly lost - the 1999 Chepauk test vs Pakistan. That was one stunning game, especially the events that unfolded on that final day where Sachin batted with severe back pain to score what I consider "his best ever test innings" and then once he got out at the wrong moment, Pakistan steamed in and finished it off. And also another thing to add is the crowd response. 1999 was at the peak of India-Pakistan political tensions with the Kargil war happening at that time (dont remember if it was before or after). Pakistan came for a series after almost 13 years (if my memory is right). And the crowd response to Pakistan's win was magnificient. I know the 2001 India vs Aus series is among the top most memorable series (probably the best series ever played by India) but I pick this one for the sheer drama and the flows.

For a non-India game, I would agree with Epic on the 2005 Edgbaston Ashes match between Australia and England. I didnt watch that entire game (caught up most of it in highlights; cant sit through non-India test matches though no offence to other teams).
 
Yeah good old Jogi, funny how I forgot the name.



LOL, I remembered him too, but the board has been rather confrontational off late right now, so was looking to avoid naming people on this :p :)

It was me who said that and I still stand by it. If Dhoni had a pool of bowlers that has Aaron, Yadav, Mohit, Vinay Kumar and RP Singh, he would pick the latter 3 ahead of the first two 9 out of ten times and keep picking them till they get smashed for say 90 in 9 overs or something. Being medium pace does`nt mean you are automatically economical. Guys like Vinay Kumar, Irfan Pathan (current version) and Balaji might do okay initially but at their pace its easy to line them up and take them for 30 in an over at any stage. Dhoni does not offer the same long rope to anyone with decent pace. It has a lot to do with his perception. A captain like Ganguly would pick the quicker bowlers ahead of the Vinay Kumar genre of bowlers in his day. That is how we unearthed Zaheer, Irfan, Nehra (2003 WC days), Balaji (before his abdominal injury) and Sreesanth/Munaf.
 
It was me who said that and I still stand by it. If Dhoni had a pool of bowlers that has Aaron, Yadav, Mohit, Vinay Kumar and RP Singh, he would pick the latter 3 ahead of the first two 9 out of ten times and keep picking them till they get smashed for say 90 in 9 overs or something. Being medium pace does`nt mean you are automatically economical. Guys like Vinay Kumar, Irfan Pathan (current version) and Balaji might do okay initially but at their pace its easy to line them up and take them for 30 in an over at any stage. Dhoni does not offer the same long rope to anyone with decent pace. It has a lot to do with his perception. A captain like Ganguly would pick the quicker bowlers ahead of the Vinay Kumar genre of bowlers in his day. That is how we unearthed Zaheer, Irfan, Nehra (2003 WC days), Balaji (before his abdominal injury) and Sreesanth/Munaf.
Dhoni has always done unusual things, which are just impractical or foolishness in the sight of a cricket experts. But these decisions have paid off. Do you know why ? No ! Even great cricketers don't know that. Only Dhoni knows it. Be it the incident of Joginder Sharma or Ishant Sharma. All are nonsense, but they have done wonders.
 
It was me who said that and I still stand by it. If Dhoni had a pool of bowlers that has Aaron, Yadav, Mohit, Vinay Kumar and RP Singh, he would pick the latter 3 ahead of the first two 9 out of ten times and keep picking them till they get smashed for say 90 in 9 overs or something. Being medium pace does`nt mean you are automatically economical. Guys like Vinay Kumar, Irfan Pathan (current version) and Balaji might do okay initially but at their pace its easy to line them up and take them for 30 in an over at any stage. Dhoni does not offer the same long rope to anyone with decent pace. It has a lot to do with his perception. A captain like Ganguly would pick the quicker bowlers ahead of the Vinay Kumar genre of bowlers in his day. That is how we unearthed Zaheer, Irfan, Nehra (2003 WC days), Balaji (before his abdominal injury) and Sreesanth/Munaf.

Then you are wrong.

Without even going into how factually inaccurate that is, MSD has always picked bowlers he thinks, are the best to win a match. Just look at his record doesn't suggest his bowlers keep getting carted all the time all over the park. With all MSD has won, I think I will take his opinion on who is the best bowler for the match, over yours, thank you very much.

We all have opinions on line ups and we all have times when we think the Captain is being right wrong or a muppet, that is waht makes watching cricket fun. But at some point one needs to draw the line. One cannot forget that at the end of the day, its all just fan opinions, and one cannot be foolish enough to think that the fan sitting in his house, never having worked with the team, not knowing how someone is feeling on that day, how the previous days net session went, actually knows better than the captain about who should be playing.

I hear the commentators go oh the captain should put a gully, oh the captain should put a third man, I mean has the captain, any captain not heard of these positions? The fans just feed off the commentary and go mental and at the same time become very wise and the best tacticians in the game. Any gap the ball goes in the commentators would put a fielder there. Any move that doesn't work the commentators would have not made it. They are always wise after the event, and so is everyone watching. A captain doesn't have that luxury.

Even the weakest of teams, and worst of captains even at club level knows more than what an armchair critic has to offer. Everything you can suggest, would have already crossed even the club captain's mind, let alone the mind of a captain who has won every major trophy this game has to offer.
 
Lol Bhuvi was sleeping at Short Fine Leg.[DOUBLEPOST=1409394401][/DOUBLEPOST]That sweep upper edge was not far from going to the fielder.
 
Cook is the pefect study for a young opener. I mean sure there are the Sehwags and SRTs and Jayasuryas of the World who come in smash and look good from ball one. They are special talents though and everyone cant be like them. Cook is just perfect though in the sense that he always looks scratchy at the start, but he hangs in there, and once he gets in then he looks great.

Any young opener would do well to follow Cook in that regard. Just see off the new ball, even if you don't look the most convincing doing it and then take the runs on offer.
 
As an Australian: what in the actual fearsome tweak are England doing. I can't wait to have them back on our shores again, they're going to get murdered if they bat like that.

Mind you, I still think the New Zealanders are going to have an absolute field day with everyone, but that's just me.
 

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