India in England Jun-Sept 2014

[cricket_icon]

Well the thing about Anderson is he wasn't even on the books at Lancs until he was 17. Normally players get into the system at u.11, u.13 level and they get the living daylights coached out of them by old club players who think they know more about the game than they really do.

Anderson arrived on the scene bowling with more or less exactly the same technique he'd been using since he was a boy (I mean literally, his bowling action is absolutely recognisable from when he was 11 years old at Burnley CC), and so naturally a load of coaches wanted to get into him and make up for all the crap coaching he'd dodged because the system at Lancs was staffed by people too dumb to realise that he was a future test bowler until he started blasting out sides in Lancs League cricket.

ahh I did not know that about Jimmy.

In terms of my own experience in English cricket (obviously not county level lol) but I played at a good club and a good level at school, and I have to say, we get coached waaaaaay too much. Every little detail, form the way we stand in the crease (I'm a keeper/batsman) to the way you're supposed to hold the bat.

I understand that their are some basics but to push it beyond and not make players feel comfortable create a generic line of clones who just aren't exciting or breath taking enough.

 

[abhi_jacko]

I am not a stats guy, but I remember 200% that initially Kumble was mediocre to poor in overseas tests, and he turned it around most in 2003 or so when he had some good series in Australia. I started watching cricket actively since 1996 and my source for that statement is purely from analytical articles I've read, commentators analysis, etc. Probably he might have some good series at the beginning, but he was not a truly reliable bowler for overseas conditions until the early 2000's,

I agree that Kumble became a potent overseas threat only after 2000. But I am simply pointing out, your comparison of Ashwin's and Kumble's first few games is very incorrect

 

[used2bcool]

What do you mean by that ? You are saying that Binny is useful but he should be kept out of the team because Dhoni doesn't use him ?

(Maybe my sarcasm detector is failing here) Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Binny might well prove to be a useful Test cricketer in helpful conditions, but Dhoni has zero belief in his ability as a bowler and zero intention of using him as a bowler, so there's no point having him around.

 

[grkrama]

India in England 2014 : Dhoni slams Jadeja's guilty verdict | Cricket News | England v India – Investec Test Series | ESPN Cricinfo

I can even accept sledging on the ground were you are trying to workup a bats man as a desperate bowler's attempt, but off it that's just pathetic.

 

[Skater]

Dhoni's coming across as rather a whinger about all this. It should never have come to this. This could have been dealt with in house. We are set to have a pretty good series here, we didn't need this Anderson-Jadeja nonsense overshadowing it.

 

[SaiSrini]

Why is Jadeja fined pretty early in the process while Anderson's hearing is pushed to August 1 (Source: Cricinfo)?

Dhoni should just let it go. The time has come to focus on the series, and try to advance forward and aim for a rare series win overseas.

 

[grkrama]

Dhoni's coming across as rather a whinger about all this.

afaik cook is the definition of whinger[the list would go on about the things he whines from warne,kp, mankad, captaincy,] he was the one who first started whining publicly stating that anderson didnt do anything to which dhoni responded, for people with short term memory dhoni plays fair and square, he is shrewd but fair, anybody remember Bell being recalled, he rarely goes out making an issue and if he is making an issue of it and backing his player it must have been worse, like i said before its one thing to sledge in the heat of battle another to abuse a person walking off field, nobody deserves to take shit from anyone.

 

[swacker]

English fan who are watching the natwest t20, Finn & Meaker bowling at good pace today.

Finn looked very sharp. A good lions tour may seem him back in contention again.

 

[Epic]

Debut for Pankaj with Ishant out injured, and Rohit in for Binny, if the 5th bowler isn't going to bowl 20 odd overs, you best pick a specialist batsman.

 

[swacker]

Changes ahoy for both sides.

 

[lion100lion]

 

[Epic]

Our slip catching.

 

[lion100lion]

Our slip catching.

We can forgive Jadeja....
He is the best fielder of the Indian team. in the past, he has taken some spectacular catches. It's only a genuine and a rare mistake.

 

[lion100lion]

So Jadeja does not drop this time... Robson out Caught by Jadeja

 

[aditya123]

Looks like Cook is not going to throw it away this time. He is shaping up nicely at the crease and looks really comfortable. I can see a big one for Cook here. In fact, I fear something huge from him. India missed a trick by not picking Varun ahead of Pankaj. England have not looked comfortable against pace and Varun would have added some zip to this tired Indian attack.