India in England Jun-Sept 2014

[PokerAce]

I hope this reminds people in the Indian setup how much they failed with the team selection. With all due respect to Pankaj Singh, he should never have been on that flight to England ahead of Umesh Yadav. Imagine Yadav and Aaron bowling in tandem on this track. Along with Bhuvi, Shami and Ishant they should form the nucleus of our pace attack. If we do rotate among these bowlers, our attack won`t be very friendly as it is now.

Coming back to this game. England are running away with this game now. A lead of over 30 now and with dangerous batsmen like Butler, Broad and Woakes in the lineup, the lead is easily going to surpass 150. We must somehow manage another wicket before lunch to be in the game. I would be tempted to give Jadeja a bowl here before lunch against Butler.

I think you are being unfair to Pankaj, a mix of bad luck or he would have had all three big scorers in the third test early and we would ahve been looking at a different series score. Cook was dropped on 15, Bell given n.o. to a clear LBW on 10 and Ballance caught behind off a faint edge around 55 also not given. That would have been a different test after that.

Also Umesh Yadav has had his chances and failed to excite. I know ppl are raving about him cos of the A Tour, but Umesh till now has had a rather average career. So lets hope the A' Tour has him push on. On the bright side, India for once in a gazillion years, have a good bunch of pacers one can look up and count on for overseas tests. Bhuvi, Ishant, Aaron, would still be the three seamers I would pick.[DOUBLEPOST=1407498976][/DOUBLEPOST]Jadeja getting booed again ... to be fair he has handled it well.

He got booed at Lord's too, where he gave a fitting reply ... Got Anderson's wicket, then smashed Anderson all over the park on his way to a match winning 66, and then the match finished with him running Anderson out, when Anderson was lying face down in the dirt and Jadeja celebrating ... can't answer the boo boys better than that one would feel.

 

[aditya123]

I think you are being unfair to Pankaj, a mix of bad luck or he would have had all three big scorers in the third test early and we would ahve been looking at a different series score. Cook was dropped on 15, Bell given n.o. to a clear LBW on 10 and Ballance caught behind off a faint edge around 55 also not given. That would have been a different test after that.

Also Umesh Yadav has had his chances and failed to excite. I know ppl are raving about him cos of the A Tour, but Umesh till now has had a rather average career. So lets hope the A' Tour has him push on. On the bright side, India for once in a gazillion years, have a good bunch of pacers one can look up and count on for overseas tests. Bhuvi, Ishant, Aaron, would still be the three seamers I would pick.

The mistake we are making is to mix up test match performances and potential with ODI performances. A bulk of what we saw of Umesh was in ODI cricket. From what I saw of him in test cricket, he has a good outswinger and bowls at a good pace. Still remember his spell at Perth in 2011 and his last test match at Ahmedabad where he rattled England on that docile track.

 

[PokerAce]

The mistake we are making is to mix up test match performances and potential with ODI performances. A bulk of what we saw of Umesh was in ODI cricket. From what I saw of him in test cricket, he has a good outswinger and bowls at a good pace. Still remember his spell at Perth in 2011 and his last test match at Ahmedabad where he rattled England on that docile track.

Yeah he is a quick bowler, and its nice to have him in the mix of the pacers ... a good addition, I would still play Bhuvi, Ishant and Aaron ahead of him though.

 

[Aalay]

Umesh Yadav is a very good test bowler. He showed in that Ahmedabad test against England that he can run through a team even on a flat pitch. He is very wayward in ODI's though. Varun Aaron is a good ODI bowler but has struggled since the 2 new ball rule arrived. He doesn't get conventional swing but he is very good at reverse swing. That is why he started his career in ODI's against WI and England. Selector are mixing it up and it is hurting the team. Once they give chance to a bowler, they need to persist with that bowler and provide him some consistent chances before dropping him, if he has shown potential. It is good to see Varun Aaron getting a chance in this test and I hope he continues to do well.

 

[aditya123]

Umesh Yadav is a very good test bowler. He showed in that Ahmedabad test against England that he can run through a team even on a flat pitch. He is very wayward in ODI's though. Varun Aaron is a good ODI bowler but has struggled since the 2 new ball rule arrived. He doesn't get conventional swing but he is very good at reverse swing. That is why he started his career in ODI's against WI and England. Selector are mixing it up and it is hurting the team. Once they give chance to a bowler, they need to persist with that bowler and provide him some consistent chances before dropping him, if he has shown potential. It is good to see Varun Aaron getting a chance in this test and I hope he continues to do well.

Exactly my views as well. Umesh is a better test bowler and Varun would make a better ODI bowler. I`m not yet convinced about Ishant still. He still blows very hot and cold and does not have the pace these days to trouble batsmen at times, especially in the subcontinent. Aaron and Umesh must both be in contention in Asian conditions. Selections have to be more proactive than they are now. I wish we were as aggressive with our selection at Southampton. We might not be this deep in trouble had we been a little more proactive and aggressive with our team when we were still leading in the series.

 

[Umair7]

After Lunch i want Buttler to do a Buttler (explosive mode)

 

[aditya123]

After Lunch i want Buttler to do a Buttler (explosive mode)

Yes he will. Butler will notch up his maiden test ton here.

 

[tonka115]

After Lunch i want Buttler to do a Buttler (explosive mode)

Hopefully he does. If he does it sensibly, then he could easily help England get a big lead in this game.

 

[PokerAce]

The star commentary team have lost their heads. They are talking about whether rain will stay away and give India the opportunity to win the test. Talk about getting carried away. Personally I would welcome rain, the more the better

 

[Umair7]

Yes he will. Butler will notch up his maiden test ton here.

I hope so !

Hopefully he does. If he does it sensibly, then he could easily help England get a big lead in this game.

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The star commentary team have lost their heads. They are talking about whether rain will stay away and give India the opportunity to win the test. Talk about getting carried away. Personally I would welcome rain, the more the better

No No No

 

[grkrama]

They are talking about whether rain will stay away and give India the opportunity to win the test

what are they on...

 

[Aalay]

Can anybody tell me what is the average pace Varun Aaron was bowling at in the first session?

 

[aditya123]

Pankaj Singh is now starting to lose this game for us here. In a game where 16 wickets have fallen for a total of 350 runs, he has conceded 70 runs in 15 overs. Its hugely damaging.

 

[aditya123]

Okay guys, we had the flicker of hope. Now time for a huge dose of realism. Leather hunting mode on again.

 

[PokerAce]

Its clearing up at the ground ...