Mafia - Janitorial 2.0 - Game Abandoned

[Abhas]

Just to clarify, my decision to quit the game has got nothing to do with the game itself (roles/who is playing, etc).
I'm genuinely busy, and thought it would be wrong on the game if I don't contribute reasonably, besides, I felt, it was slack on thedon to be killed night 0, and wanted him to play.

 

[thedon5]

Has anyone else noticed that thedon's play has changed from 'resigned to being lynched' to 'optimistic about survival'? I mean he didnt even defend himself properly until he saw that no one else was keen to lynch. If he really was townie he wouldn't have done that.

And thedon, regarding the abhas thing, you said bad defense, but that's exactly the sort of thing that gets you lynched.

It definitely has changed, because looking at the priorities and activity of the town, if I am lynched I'm 100% certain the town will lose.

One bad defence I made at 6 am my time? If we're going to lynch people based on one bad post, let's lynch surendar because he didn't understand one of my posts. User because he said cop being in the open is a good thing. Simon for not posting. Umair for adding nothing. Varun for posting late... Point is everyone makes small mistakes in this game getting lynched off for that when 99% of my play has been good is a joke.

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@Simon Please talk or don't sign up for Mafia games...

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[MENTION]Simon[/MENTION]

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Someone else mention him!

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[MENTION]Simon[/MENTION]

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I give up lol.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Wow some people can't really get when I say something. Shame I am on the mobile always and not able to quote people and explain every bit.

Umair, it is a good thing only because the cop will be saved and we won't lose him! That's it.

Sulaiman, which posts of mine don't make sense? I have posted what I thought. We surely have had a poor start but the way we are moving, I am sure the mafias are laughing behind our backs.

Surender, I find you a bit too aggressive. Why you say you will lynch me if it was for you? You have any proper evidence? You say you are keeping your options open. Suppose we go by Psq result that don is guilty and keep aside that he could be the miller then he is the one to fo after. But no, you will still go for me because it's you and not for someone who can be a supposed mafia!

Yash, I don't have anything against you. It's just that how you quickly lynched and unlynched that made me sus of you.

I have null read on Umair and Sulaiman. I don't really know how they play. But, Sulaiman posting that I make no sense is disturbing. Simon hasn't posted much and that is suspicious. Varun is a very clever player and I haven't got much out of him.

And, how cleverly Don has said he thinks I am more of a mafia. Trying to shift the suspicion entirely on me as most of the others are after me?

For me:

FOS: Surender, Yash, Don

 

[thedon5]

All right, if anyone is overprotecting themself here, it's User. Except for surendar, no-one has suggested he should be lynched. All he has done is defend himself in his last few posts. In fact ever since my FOS he has done little else.

His main suspicion is of me, a suspicion which isn't risky to have as it's a common suspicion. The other is of yash who is looking like a solid townie. That isn't why I find that strange though, it's more his reason which you can't say is a particularly good one.

He seems to be on a different page to everyone else. I wasn't going to lynch him, but this last post has proven to me that it's the way to go...

Lynch: User_2010

Right now I see all the people he has FOSed as town as well as P_Squared of course.

And, how cleverly Don has said he thinks I am more of a mafia. Trying to shift the suspicion entirely on me as most of the others are after me?

Rubbish, I am the one who started the attack on you. Don't you remember my FOS? Others have been following me on this.

 

[hedger_14]

Why does Simon do this -_-

 

[P Squared]

fearsome tweak me but I find it incredibly stupid to let someone who came up guilty slip away, miller or not. Day 1 lynches are usually stabs in the dark and right now theres more of a chance of thedon being mafia more than anyone else. Theres only a 1 in 4 chance of him being miller really.

But of course everyone would rather lynch someone who could/could not be townie. Brilliant.

While I do agree that users play has been fishy, that is something to pursue in day 2 not today.

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fish me? Bloody swear filter

 

[Gaurav_7]

I am not over protecting myself. It is just that I can't get the suspicion on me. Maybe that is how I play when I am a vanilla townie! You guys do realize how important the votes are in this setup, isn't it? Every vote counts! I agree I might have sounded desperate but, I believe it is only the result of most people saying I am suspicious. Plus, to go further Surender would have gone for me come whatever may if it was not for Psq's guilty on theDon. May I ask why?

Don is a very good player and has played the miller card very well. He knows in both cases the town will be confused whether or not to lynch him as he has been found guilty. Maybe Surender and him are the mafia members as both of them have targeted each other subtly but now have put it all on me as they see there is a chance I can be lynched easily given the way townies are playing!

Lynch : theDon

This is the most logical thing to do as far as I am concerned.

 

[thedon5]

fish me but I find it incredibly stupid to let someone who came up guilty slip away, miller or not. Day 1 lynches are usually stabs in the dark and right now theres more of a chance of thedon being mafia more than anyone else. Theres only a 1 in 4 chance of him being miller really.

But of course everyone would rather lynch someone who could/could not be townie. Brilliant.

While I do agree that users play has been fishy, that is something to pursue in day 2 not today.

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fish me? Bloody swear filter

I "may or may not" be town as well.

The lawyer would've been used yesterday. That means three people would've appeared as Mafia yesterday, lawyer, one other Mafia and miller. That means there is a good chance I'm town, similar to the chances that User is town if you eliminate surendar (surendar can't be Mafia with User) and yash.

This game is gameplay based. The presence of both a lawyer and a miller should tell you that, in such a set-up it should be obvious that the cop's result can't always be followed.

Simon always does this. I really don't know why he is still allowed to sign up for Mafia games. The first rule is you have to be active.

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Not a very good start - we have the oracle dead and the cop revealed. The oracle's role wasn't revealed on the write up, so that probably means he was janned.

I wouldn't be too keen on lynching Thedon yet, as he could be a miller.

The doc shouldn't out, cause he knows who to protect and it's important that both the cop and the doc are alive.

This is Simon's only post. I take back what I said about it looking like decent play.

First role is repeating what many had already said.

His second paragraph could be the basis of an attempted attack on yash, as at that point he had lynched me without thinking twice.

Third paragraph is the definition of stating the obvious...

So I have changed my mind, right now my Mafia team hunch is User, Simon and Umair. Umair has added nothing and just repeated what others have said. He doesn't seem as good a player as Simon so it's less of a Mafia sign, but he looks more likely to be Mafia than Varun who I guess is the other possibility.

 

[Varun]

I do notice an implicit aggressive in thedon's post, although if he's really a miller trying to put in everything to save himself that makes sense. Again, the setup ensures that we wouldn't know if he's a miller or mafia unless he's night killed which he probably won't be. User is vehement against him, but I suspect if don's mafia it could simply be a ploy with both of them going against each other to clear each other in case one is lynched. Simon is infuriating, has he been online?

Well, since clearly if we mislynch we are virtually lost - I expect me or Simon or Suren to die given the other two are also town - I'd say we go for a No Lynch. I'm playing after a long time, and I would like to play it slow, no hasty decisions.

No Lynch

I do realize that if thedon's lynched, he definitely comes up as mafia, miller or not. That directly puts the suspicion on me in any case. There's little I can do about that. But more time do we need. Let the cop carry out one more investigation? I'm really annoyed we are not getting anything from the other vanillas.

 

[hedger_14]

Lynch Count

thedon5 (2) - P Squared, User2010
No Lynch (1) - Varun

 

[thedon5]

I also have a lynch on User.

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Can Simon be replaced btw? Maybe we should lynch him otherwise?

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I guess I'd be game for a no lynch. We can actually no lynch today and tomorrow if needed and still have a chance of winning, so that would be two chances to find Mafia. I actually think that's a very good idea. The best part is there will most likely be no lawyer and no miller to toy with the results. If others are keen I am happy to do this.

Right now I think surendar or P_Squared would be the most likely target. But if we do go for a no lynch, the doc has to be on P_Squared for sure.

 

[SiriusBlack]

edited

 

[thedon5]

Good to have you back Simon. Please post something constructive now as very few other players have.

 

[Sulaiman7]

For me:-

Yash; has to be a townie

Varun; has helped the town a bit

Umair; his posts haven't helped the town at all! which makes me think that he's trying to play as a quite mafia

surendar; he has been playing quite neutral

Simon; yet to analyze and be analyzed

P Squared; Cop.

Too confused between thedon and User there , there area more chances of thedon being be lynched anytime any day because the cop has said so , I think it would be better if we follow the cop as it's safe play. To me , Thedon has convinced me and user has been acting quite aggressively you can't say thedon hasn't , both of them look to be doing work together maybe , maybe both of 'em are mafias and are trying to deceive us by just attacking each other and they've said Umair to just keep silent! maybe user knows that thedon won't get lynched today somehow or it's Varun , thedon and User working together. This is a very fishy play. We will have to lynch very carefully , one mislynch can cost the town as obvious but Varun hasn't been quite playing like mafia at all for me which makes it more difficult for me to find the third partner , Simon's analyses will be really helpful for the town , it will clear the doubts between the mafias.

I'd like to see what Simon does first but I'm more likely to follow the cop and lynch thedon.

 

[thedon5]

I see where this is going.

All right, before you lynch me, just think. Has my play looked Mafia? Had it not been for P_Squared's result, would you think I was Mafia? Had it not been for my suggestion to look at other players and my scumhunting, would we have gotten as good a read on the town as we have? Just think about it before you lynch, and think about how unreliable a cop result can be when there is a miller in the game and a lawyer too, 33% chance I am town really and that is very high for a 'definitive' cop result.

Anyway I've said all there is to say. I am happy to lynch User or just go for a no lynch.