Mar 17 : England vs West Indies

I am hoping for a West Indies win. I would just love to see England go out. (No, I am not prejudiced, i just love an upset)

But not in 2007...................... :rolleyes ;) :p But then I guess if you are losing your QF or SF the crowd won't get the game abandoned either, they do love a good upset :rolleyes

England will no doubt blame fixtures, fatigue, injuries, bad luck, blah, blah, blah when they do go out. Problem is their preparation and selections have been poor, they're STILL picking players as theoretical role fillers ie Yardy as a spinner, Prior as an opener etc, and persisting with players who they claim are quality but yet don't perform consistently enough to deserve that tag eg Anderson and Pietersen.

Fair enough Broad's injury is a big loss, but England weren't good enough even with him in the side. As for fatigue, noone forced them to pick Strauss, Trott, Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood, Prior, Broad, Swann AND Anderson for every single Test they were available for the last 2,3,4 years :rolleyes So it is the selectors lack of planning and proper use of the large pool of players from which they have to pick which adds to the problem of improper use of players.


IF England pick the team below, I think they may just have a chance. Trouble is England will think their master tactics work and it's just fate, bad luck or "the way it goes" instead of realising they aren't maximising even the assets in hand. If Anderson plays that will be a sham, hoping he will repeat a trick when his bowling is a big factor in why we haven't qualified.

Strauss
Trott
Bell
Morgan
Bopara
Prior (wk)
Swann
Bresnan
Tredwell
Shahzad
Tremlett

Two spinners and not a spinner plus Yardy, Tredwell was a huge gamble that England aren't even taking so why include him? Might as well take that gamble than take three spinners of whom one is doing the business, one is not and the other isn't even in the business.

Might be a bit shaky in the batting department, but the options are so limited and hoping Yardy or Collingwood can either take wickets or control a game is not a good option, picking a better bat for seven would simply weaken a bowling line-up that has not backed the batsmen up - letting Ireland win a game and Bangladesh too, both from good positions for England.

It exposes the lack of a number seven, but Yardy isn't good enough above and beyond T20s and county cricket. Shight shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, and Bresnan has his moments but is an eight or nine at best. Swann is capable, fairly sure he's opened for Notts in one dayers and has batted high enough as I recall back in his Northants days. Beyond that it is just to hoping, I wonder if the "stomach upsets" are because England were unwise enough to trust local cuisine.
 
Damn we have a wicked thunderstorm here and the satellite is dropping out.. won't be surprised if we lose power too.. looks like I'm gonna miss this one :(
 
Strauss
Trott
Bell
Morgan
Bopara
Prior (wk)
Swann
Bresnan
Tredwell
Shahzad
Tremlett

I am agree with your views on Tredwell, but England can't afford to drop Collingwood for this crucial game. My line-up would be

Strauss (c)
Bopara
Trott
Bell
Morgan
Collingwood
Prior (w)
Swann
Bresnan
Shahzad
Tredwell, if not Tremlett
:cheers

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According to me, WI line-up must be like this -

Gayle
Devon Smith
Darren Bravo
Chanderpaul
Sarwan
Pollard
Thomas (w)
Sammy (c)
Benn
Russel
Roach

Sorry Nikita Miller, you have to go :p
 
What the hell? Chanderpaul out, Tremlett in :eek: Luke Wright playing as well, with Shazad out.

This is just astonishing.
 
It's so frustrating being an English cricket fan. That bowling line up is one of the worst 'bowling' line ups I have seen in a long time. Wright & Tredwell are both utter drivel which is also a massive gamble with no real senior bowler. England have basically picked the bowling line up on the premise that they get Gayle out early, because after Swann, Bresnan and Tremlett (to an extent) the West Indies are going to have 20 overs of easy pickings.

On the batting front, they continue to go with Prior up top? Are the selectors effing blind? What has he done at the top of the order recently? Absolutely nothing, he barely deserves his place in the side let a lone opening the innings.
 
Prior sure is suspect against the quicks, too bad we couldn't bowl like that to him in the Ashes. Trott on the other hand is schooling Russell.
 
But not in 2007...................... :rolleyes ;) :p But then I guess if you are losing your QF or SF the crowd won't get the game abandoned either, they do love a good upset :rolleyes



Fair enough Broad's injury is a big loss, but England weren't good enough even with him in the side. As for fatigue, noone forced them to pick Strauss, Trott, Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood, Prior, Broad, Swann AND Anderson for every single Test they were available for the last 2,3,4 years :rolleyes So it is the selectors lack of planning and proper use of the large pool of players from which they have to pick which adds to the problem of improper use of players.
yes, i absolutely agree with you. Upsets are only cool if it isn't your team on the receiving end.

And England did know their schedule beforehand. In fact, the board themselves plan it. ECB is to blame for poor tour planning and also not resting players, something India have done with mixed results.
 
Really England!!!??? Luke Wright!!!??? Tell you what ECB, replace Wright with me. I can bowl my medium pace, can swing the bat around like a windmill rarely connecting and be the baby face of the team.......and I'll do it for free. What ya say.......? :rolleyes
 
West Indies haven't beaten the English in a World Cup since the 1979 final where Collis King smashed them out of Lords'.
 
What is this crap about England suffering from fatigue? :mad
If they had gone into the tournament without playing the ODI series in Aus then they would be using the excuse of "not enough practice" to excuse their poor performance.
They are a crap team in ODIs, and the results over the past few years prove this.
Forget that 20/20 win, that was pure luck, that thing is a lottery and anyone can win it, all it takes is a quickfire 40 from ONE batsman.
England lack power hitters and strike bowlers, and this is why they struggle in ODIs.

Loving watching Bishoo bowl :clap
He is a hell of a lot more promising than any other young spinner I've seen for the past few years (Smith, Rashid, etc)...5 overs and still no sight of a long hop or a full toss, and he spins it more than both of them.

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Really England!!!??? Luke Wright!!!??? Tell you what ECB, replace Wright with me. I can bowl my medium pace, can swing the bat around like a windmill rarely connecting and be the baby face of the team.......and I'll do it for free. What ya say.......? :rolleyes

But can you steam in faster than you can bowl?
 
Keep losing wickets at crucial times. Morgan has to bat to the end for us to get a good target.

Top 4 all got in and all out.

Balls, Morgan now gone.

Go home now, you're an absolute disgrace. The team selection was baffling and there needs to be a massive overhaul.

Go on Luke, produce something remarkable. We need 280.

:facepalm
 
That had to eventually happen to Morgan, bit of a silly shot at the start of your innings. Although I suppose for him its a high percentage shot.

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If there was ever a time for Luke Wright to prove everyone wrong, now is the time to do it..
 

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