Most overrated cricketer on the planet...

^ I guess then that your dream XI would have some trouble winning.

m_vaughan said:
Sachin, doesnt matter if he is scoring a 0 or a 100, seems to always be Mr.Perfect for the fans. This doesnt put him under any pressure, which I am not sure is particularly good. Very similar to one Mr. Beckham when it comes to football.
Saying that Sachin does not play under pressure is just foolhardiness. Why do you think he slowed down his batting. Because he was afraid of getting out and displeasing the fans. He has become a senior member of the team and realizes the importance of his position. He cannot just come out and go smack-bang at the bowling because he is under pressure to lead. It's funny that Sachin is being called overrated, because even in an average year like 2004, he scored two double-centuries.

As for Muralitharan, he has picked up 167 of his 539 wickets (31%) in 25 matches (27%) against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and West Indies. 31% of his wickets in 27% of his matches is not a huge discrepancy. Warne, meanwhile, has picked up 59 of his 583 wickets (9%) against those oppositions, having played them in 17 matches (14%). So, Warne's lower hauls against these teams is just a result of playing less against them. Muralitharan is not over-rated. He can destroy any opposition on moderately turning pitches.

Nothing needs to be said about his action because the ICC has legalized it, along with 99% of the other bowlers in world cricket. How come those 99% haven't been as successful as Murali? Because he is a brilliant bowler.
 
Ok lets get it right
Sachin is best in making centuries on hard pitches and not in winning matches for India and nor able to fight in tense situations.But that is not his fault!
 
Akhtar in my opinion is over-rated as far as the ODIs go. In tests.....well he is just frigging awesome. I do believe Sachin is a bit over-rated, but thats my own personal opinion. He has performed well when the Indian ship was sinking, that takes a lot. I would like to say that McGrath is over-rated only because I dislike him, but his stats wouldn't support my argument. :p

I do have this to add though. Inzi is highly underrated. I still can't believe how he completed his 10,000th run against India and didn't get much recognition for it. He passed that milestone in 12 years of batting for his country AND he didn't always bat for Pakistan, infact he was regularly dropped from the team, even when he was in better form. He had played 322 matches by that time. And of course he was only the second batsman in the history of ODI cricket to pass that milestone.
 
Don Bradman once said 'Sachin is the closest i have seen to be as good as i was' or something along those lines.

Sachin not Lara.
 
sachin said:
Disagree. Lara is a better batsman then Tendulkar. Maybe not as consistent but still better.
Disagree.Sachin is clearly better.
Is that bitterness i hear in your voice Vaughen :D[/QUOTE]
Well I do have a slightly sour throat atm.
 
Sureshot said:
Don Bradman once said 'Sachin is the closest i have seen to be as good as i was' or something along those lines.

some people here are more knowledgeable then Bradman himself.
 
His average says otherwise. Take out his stats vs your lot in the last ashes series. he would still average over 40. Which is very good as he averaged about 20 after hsi first 10 tests.

Thing is with Vaughan is you never know what you'll get, a big innings or a poor one.

Shailesh said:
some people here are more knowledgeable then Bradman himself.

But no one on here will ever be as good as he was.

greatest batsman ever. Knows more about batting than most. If not all.
 
Sureshot said:
His average says otherwise. Take out his stats vs your lot in the last ashes series. he would still average over 40. Which is very good as he averaged about 20 after hsi first 10 tests.

Thing is with Vaughan is you never know what you'll get, a big innings or a poor one.



But no one on here will ever be as good as he was.

greatest batsman ever. Knows more about batting than most. If not all.



Not one ODI century to his name.How can you defend it ?????

Frankly doesnt deserve a place even in the England ODI team .Think Solanki is a better bet than him .

As for tests go put aside 1)Ashes down under 2)Home series against India.

Now that record is not really world class.



For Bradman has to say Sachin is to ODI's what Bradman is to Test's
 
His average without those two series is 38, not brilliant no, but hardly poor.

And when talking about averages why ignore series against two of the strongest teams in world cricket? Surely the mark of a world class player is how they perform against the very best? Why not say "take away his record against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh"?
 
andrew_nixon said:
His average without those two series is 38, not brilliant no, but hardly poor.

And when talking about averages why ignore series against two of the strongest teams in world cricket? Surely the mark of a world class player is how they perform against the very best? Why not say "take away his record against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh"?
Couldnt agree more. I think the fact that he has performed well against the best is why he is such an important member of the team.
 
SkateBoarder2 said:
Tendulkar would never make my dream XI.
thats cos you know **** all about cricket

m_vaughan said:
I think Sachin has been a better batsman over the years than BC Lara. But atleast Lara is often given the stick and is subject to criticism when he does not look to be performing. Sachin, doesnt matter if he is scoring a 0 or a 100, seems to always be Mr.Perfect for the fans. This doesnt put him under any pressure, which I am not sure is particularly good. Very similar to one Mr. Beckham when it comes to football.

Nope, wrong again.. sachin has all throughout his career been critisized to death. Im talking from india so i know. Each little detail will be analysed.. 2 or three innings without a hundred and people begin. But thats whats so great, its almost impossible to critisize him.. Hes hardly given people a chance to do so. Lara for 4 or 5 years wasnt even close to sachin and thats where sachin has established himself as a true great. Im not saying hes perfect, hes had a bad record in finals of late, his form has dipped due to injuries, but hopefully his elbow will be sorted soon.

As for beckham, he was a very good footballer who got too distracted with the commercial side of the game. As good as he was, he was never going to be one of the greatest footballers, he always had too many flaws.. he was never going to be as good as the zidanes, i think everyone who knows his football knows that, its just the commercial side that keeps him popular. With sachin its the performances.. hes hardly had a bad patch in his whole career,
it isnt easy to critisize a person whos been carrying your team singlehandidly for years and doing it well.. as i said before, if sachin got a hundred, india almost always won, if he got one early, it was practically over. THAT is pressure, can there be any more pressure..?
 

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