Most overrated cricketer on the planet...

[Pak_cricketer]

Afridi!!!! People like him because he can do something anytime now. we don't trust him to always work and i would have inzi in the world's best....

 

[aditya123]

overrated -----> Md.Sami , Ajit Agarkar ,Ashish Nehra , Shane Watson , Craig Mcmillan , Stuart Macgill, Jacques Kallis(as a bowler)/`a superb batsmen though`

Underrated --------> Shivnaraine Chanderpaul , Marvan Atapattu , G.Thorpe , D.Martyn , Rana Naved Ul Hasan , D.Vettori , Inzy , M.Boucher (second best keeper according to me)

Now , my response to all those who say Sachin is overrated ! Has any player scored 34 test centuries and 37 ODI centuries other than the little man ? The feat is difficult enough to achieve even if you play against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh for your whole career ! He has done it against the best . As regards him not facing great quality bowling oppositions , think again ! Wasim Akram and Waqar at their peak, Glen Mcgrath , Shane Warne (remember how he was slaughtered) ,Ambrose and Walsh , !
He was the only pillar of hope for the nation of one-billion starved of sports heroes ! That is the kind of pressure the man has played under for 16 long years and is still going strong .
For most part of the 90s , the Indian batting started and ended with Sachin Tendulkar and to some extent Md.Azharuddin . I hear talks of Rahul Dravid being better than Sachin and sometimes even Sehwag being better ! How foolish . Dravid is no doubt a collossal figure in Indian cricket now , but he has emerged as a match-winner only post 2000 . As I said earlier , in the 90s it was Sachin all the way . Only since 2000 have India got this famd batting line-up at least of paper with the likes of Dravid , Laxman , Ganguly , Sehwag all making a mark but none of them will ever come close to achieving what the Little Genius has achieved, . And all those who say he does not play well under pressure must search for their upper compartments . Each time sachin goes out to bat, the nation expects a big score . Its pressure each time he bats . The ample testimony to that fact is that he has scores of 94,54,53,41,17 against Pakistan in the recent test series and many people say Sachin has not performed well !

 

[ronny_kingsley]

Well this debate will continue one feels. Despite all your valid comments, I still think Sachin is often overrated by the fans and the press.

Anyways someone mentioned about a Dream XI. Lets see who would make my Dream World XI. I am considering current players on the basis of current form as well as career achivements.

ODIs:
Chris Gayle
Adam Gilchrist
Herschelle Gibbs
Sachin Tendulkar
Ricky Ponting
Brian Lara
Andrew Flintoff
Shaun Pollock
Daniel Vettori
Glen McGrath
Steve Harmison

Tests:
Justin Langer
Herschelle Gibbs
Jacques Kallis
Ricky Ponting
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Andrew Flintoff
Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Glen McGrath
Steve Harmison

I know there are quite a few players who need to be mentioned. But its difficult to have all of them in one team. Also this is just my opinion of a Dream World XI Team.

Certain Mr.Dravid missing there . Dont u think mate ??????????

overrated -----> Md.Sami , Ajit Agarkar ,Ashish Nehra , Shane Watson , Craig Mcmillan , Stuart Macgill, Jacques Kallis(as a bowler)/`a superb batsmen though`

Underrated --------> Shivnaraine Chanderpaul , Marvan Atapattu , G.Thorpe , D.Martyn , Rana Naved Ul Hasan , D.Vettori , Inzy , M.Boucher (second best keeper according to me)

Well if anything Agarkar is underrated for me.

First off all not many rate him highly but he has one of the best ODI stike rate for a bowler.He is the fastest to an allround double of 1000 runs and 200 wickets.He is ahead of Pollock,Akram and all the gr8 allrounders you people say.If he is made to play regularly in the team he can be an asset.


Attapatu is not underrated at all.He seems to score against weak oppositions only and Rana as a bowler is not fit for Paki starting XI .Its becos of Shoiab out and Sami injured that he makes it to the team.

 

[sachin]

Disagree.Sachin is clearly better.
Did i actually post this?If i did,i certaintly didn't mean too.The other way round,i'm getting a bit confused,what did you post and what did i post?

 

[sohum]

Hmm, m_vaughan that is a very interesting selection that I disagree with a fair bit. My XI's would be, based mainly on current form (current = last year or two):

ODI
1 Gilchrist
2 Gayle
3 Ponting
4 Tendulkar
5 Kallis
6 Flintoff
7 Pietersen
8 Pollock
9 Muralitharan
10 Harmison
11 McGrath

TEST
1 Sehwag
2 Smith
3 Dravid
4 Tendulkar
5 Lara
6 Kallis
7 Gilchrist
8 Warne
9 Muralitharan
10 McGrath
11 Hoggard

Quite a difficult task, I must agree.

 

[ronny_kingsley]

My would be :

TEST:

Sehwag
Smith
Dravid
Sachin
Lara
Kallis
Gilchrist
Harmisson
Pollock
Kumble (ahead of Warne and Murali purely on his form of the last 2 years)
McGrath


ODI's:

Gilchrist
Sehwag
Ponting
Sachin
Dravid
Kallis
Flintoff
Pollock
Akhtar
Lee
Murlitharan

 

[m_vaughan]

My would be :

TEST:

Sehwag
Smith
Dravid
Sachin
Lara
Kallis
Gilchrist
Harmisson
Pollock
Kumble (ahead of Warne and Murali purely on his form of the last 2 years)
McGrath


ODI's:

Gilchrist
Sehwag
Ponting
Sachin
Dravid
Kallis
Flintoff
Pollock
Akhtar
Lee
Murlitharan

I think Shane Warne's form since coming back after that 1 year ban has been second to none. He just needs 17 more wickets to make it 600 wickets, which I think is simply amazing!

 

[ronny_kingsley]

I think Shane Warne's form since coming back after that 1 year ban has been second to none. He just needs 17 more wickets to make it 600 wickets, which I think is simply amazing!

Well it has been second to one and its Kumble.

He did well in AUstralia,Pakistan and in home series against AUstralia,Pakistan ,South Africa and even before that.

Warne struggled in India.
Had nothing to do against Pakis,Kiwis. So what good form are u talking bout mate

 

[m_vaughan]

Well it has been second to one and its Kumble.

He did well in AUstralia,Pakistan and in home series against AUstralia,Pakistan ,South Africa and even before that.

Warne struggled in India.
Had nothing to do against Pakis,Kiwis. So what good form are u talking bout mate

I have always believed that the subcontinental spinners have an advantage as they will play atleast once every year on their home pitches which offer a lot of assistance to them.

Well Kumble is a good bowler. But there is a difference between Good and Great.
Anyways comparing the stats of Warne and Kumble in the last two years.

Anil Kumble (INDIA)
Matches Played: 19
Wickets: 112
Best Bowling: 8/141
Bowling Average: 28.99

Shane Warne (AUS)
Matches Played: 16
Wickets: 103
Best Bowling: 6/125
Bowling Average: 24.50

Key Factors:
Anil Kumble has played 2 test matches against Bangladesh picking up 10 wickets in that series, while Shane Warne hasnt played against Bangladesh in the last two years.
What is really amazing about Anil Kumble is his stats against Australia in the last two years. He has picked up 51 Australian wickets from a total of seven test matches at an average of 27.35.

Against New Zealand:
Shane Warne
Matches: 5
Wickets: 28
Bowl Avg: 22.50

Anil Kumble
Matches: 2
Wickets: 9
Bowl Avg: 37.11

Against Pakistan
Shane Warne
Matches: 3
Wickets: 14
Bowl Avg: 28.71

Anil Kumble
Matches: 6
Wickets: 32
Bowl Avg: 32.28

Also another point to note is that Warne has to compete with other great bowlers in the Australian team to pick up wickets. Kumble, besides playing a lot on the spinner friendly pitches in India,Pak and Bang, has bowled a lot more overs than Shane Warne.

Anyways at the end I guess both are good bowlers, but I have always rated Shane as one of the best cricketers of all time.

Like I said before...17 more and he'll get to 600 wickets....and that is no joke!

 

[angryangy]

I think you'll probably find a lot of international spinners struggle touring India. The Indians are capable against fierce spin and touring spinners are expected to shoulder an inordinate workload.

 

[sachin]

Afridi!!!! People like him because he can do something anytime now. we don't trust him to always work and i would have inzi in the world's best....

Shahid Afridi is Overrated,but what is Inzi the top of?Certaintly not the in the top five, of crickets best batsman anyway!

 

[Ashish_Nehra]

Tino Best is highly overrated

What a joke? . he's got BEST in his name.

 

[Sureshot]

Jack hobbs?? : IMRAN KHAN?!?!?! WASIM AKRAM!?!?! Even Botham and Hadlee.....

Seriously though man...are you on crack or something..??

Nope.

Giving my honest opinion.

the pitches in India to tend to be batting dreams.

Not saying he is a bad cricketer he is very good.

 

[aditya123]

Nope.

Giving my honest opinion.

the pitches in India to tend to be batting dreams.

Not saying he is a bad cricketer he is very good.

if that is the case, explain why not many teams have managed to beat India in India in test cricket ? Why did it take Australia some 35 years to beat India in India ?
Pitches in India are not batting dreams by any strech of imagination . Some of the pitches like Kanpur,Ahd`bad,Mohali are sure great for batting and that is the reason I do not consider these venues good for test cricket .
Indian pitches are challenging to bat on and since the ball does not come on to the bat , it takes time for a batsman to start scoring unlike some of the pitches in Australia where the scoring is possible for strokemakers even though the pitch offers bounce (except for Perth) .
Do not belittle Tendulkar`s achievements as `RUNS SCORED ON BATTING DREAMS` . He has scored runs elsewhere as well.

 

[sachin]

if that is the case, explain why not many teams have managed to beat India in India in test cricket ? Why did it take Australia some 35 years to beat India in India ?
Pitches in India are not batting dreams by any strech of imagination . Some of the pitches like Kanpur,Ahd`bad,Mohali are sure great for batting and that is the reason I do not consider these venues good for test cricket .
Indian pitches are challenging to bat on and since the ball does not come on to the bat , it takes time for a batsman to start scoring unlike some of the pitches in Australia where the scoring is possible for strokemakers even though the pitch offers bounce (except for Perth) .
Do not belittle Tendulkar`s achievements as `RUNS SCORED ON BATTING DREAMS` . He has scored runs elsewhere as well.

Good point Couldn't be bothered reading it all,but the first bit sounded good.