Dare
Chairman of Selectors
Fidel Edwards in for Ravi Rampaul. Extra pace for New Zealand to face if he gets in over Tino Best which he should.
New Zealand Tour of the West Indies - June-August 2012
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qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
Vettori is also confirmed to have an injury, leaving a spot wide open for Nethula. He will likely be among the wickets late on in the match. Early on he may struggle but if NZ keep throwing him the ball he will deliver for them before long.
He better hope that we can get Gayle early, otherwise his debut could get very messy.
jacobfelix
International Coach
So, looks like the kiwis are without Daniel Flynn who has been ruled out with a groin injury.
Sahil 7
Panel of Selectors
solid start for west indies two wickets in very quick time 
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
- NZ had better show some fight in their bowling. Some of those wickets were the result of excellent bowling in helpful conditions, but there were still too many instances of batsmen simply giving it away.
- No specialist spinner WILL come back to bite them. The two Deonarine wickets resulted from a lack of judgement on the parts of van Wyk and Williamson, but he did bowl well.
- Brownlie fails yet again. Watling got a peach of a delivery, albeit an extremely tight call on the no-ball (I didn't see it personally myself though, only heard about it).
- Taylor continues to look head and shoulders better than the rest of his team at batting. Guptill has shown excellent concentration yet again, but was run out by a great bit of fielding (from a bowler, no less) to continue along his century-free path. From a bowler, no less.
- I don't like Tino Best at all, but I will admit that he was superbly aggressive and accurate today. Intensity was always his thing, and for too long now he could never back that intensity up with...you know...actually being GOOD. But recently he has been performing well, and I am willing to give him credit for that.
- Roach continues to show that when he's in a good rhythm...he's almost unplayable. Pace, movement in the air and off the pitch, and accuracy. He seems to have done a lot of work on the no-ball issue, but he continues to be too close for comfort. He would do well to learn from one of the better fast bowlers for WI in recent times, Jerome Taylor, who would sometimes deliver the ball from the bowling crease and pick up wickets by sheer surprise to a relatively unprepared batsman who expected the ball to be released a step later. Not that Roach has to do that in particular, but he has to adapt to being comfortable with delivering the ball at any point in time in his run. That would cut down on the near-misses he always has with the popping crease.
- Another connected thought but deserving of a separate point. The "textbook" fast bowlers always look wonderful as they leap, swing their arms down and around, and release from a perfectly straight arm...but it's the guys who never read the textbook in their lives that are often the ones I love the most. One of my favourite modern bowlers in that mould is Andre Nel. The guy had no leap at all. He just ran in and never stopped until he was three feet away from the batsman, glaring at them. Somewhere along the way he would deliver the ball with an action that I can only describe as amazing at best and horribly awkward at worst. But with no leap, it only takes a little bit of adjustment and practice to deliver the ball at pretty much any point.
- Come to think of it, Tino Worst could learn a thing or two from Nel. Both have been described as too intense. But Nel was a totally different person off the field. With Tino, you'd imagine that he goes to the hotel and throws darts at pictures of the opposition team before burning the pictures and using the ashes to make war paint.
- Speaking of war paint, those anti-reflective patches Shiv has made into his trademark seem to work really well. Nobody could have taken that catch he took last match without sunglasses. Except Shiv, of course. And his patches.
- We need to either bat for the next 2 days or post 400+ to REALLY push New Zealand back. I won't pick a winner until tomorrow, as I haven't seen how we will handle things, but so far we have a lot of failing to do if we are going to lose this one.
- No specialist spinner WILL come back to bite them. The two Deonarine wickets resulted from a lack of judgement on the parts of van Wyk and Williamson, but he did bowl well.
- Brownlie fails yet again. Watling got a peach of a delivery, albeit an extremely tight call on the no-ball (I didn't see it personally myself though, only heard about it).
- Taylor continues to look head and shoulders better than the rest of his team at batting. Guptill has shown excellent concentration yet again, but was run out by a great bit of fielding (from a bowler, no less) to continue along his century-free path. From a bowler, no less.
- I don't like Tino Best at all, but I will admit that he was superbly aggressive and accurate today. Intensity was always his thing, and for too long now he could never back that intensity up with...you know...actually being GOOD. But recently he has been performing well, and I am willing to give him credit for that.
- Roach continues to show that when he's in a good rhythm...he's almost unplayable. Pace, movement in the air and off the pitch, and accuracy. He seems to have done a lot of work on the no-ball issue, but he continues to be too close for comfort. He would do well to learn from one of the better fast bowlers for WI in recent times, Jerome Taylor, who would sometimes deliver the ball from the bowling crease and pick up wickets by sheer surprise to a relatively unprepared batsman who expected the ball to be released a step later. Not that Roach has to do that in particular, but he has to adapt to being comfortable with delivering the ball at any point in time in his run. That would cut down on the near-misses he always has with the popping crease.
- Another connected thought but deserving of a separate point. The "textbook" fast bowlers always look wonderful as they leap, swing their arms down and around, and release from a perfectly straight arm...but it's the guys who never read the textbook in their lives that are often the ones I love the most. One of my favourite modern bowlers in that mould is Andre Nel. The guy had no leap at all. He just ran in and never stopped until he was three feet away from the batsman, glaring at them. Somewhere along the way he would deliver the ball with an action that I can only describe as amazing at best and horribly awkward at worst. But with no leap, it only takes a little bit of adjustment and practice to deliver the ball at pretty much any point.
- Come to think of it, Tino Worst could learn a thing or two from Nel. Both have been described as too intense. But Nel was a totally different person off the field. With Tino, you'd imagine that he goes to the hotel and throws darts at pictures of the opposition team before burning the pictures and using the ashes to make war paint.
- Speaking of war paint, those anti-reflective patches Shiv has made into his trademark seem to work really well. Nobody could have taken that catch he took last match without sunglasses. Except Shiv, of course. And his patches.
- We need to either bat for the next 2 days or post 400+ to REALLY push New Zealand back. I won't pick a winner until tomorrow, as I haven't seen how we will handle things, but so far we have a lot of failing to do if we are going to lose this one.
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Celtic Beer
Banned
first day goes to west indies.Lets see what west indies do in their first innings.
Pretty good day for the Kiwis. Knocked over 9 of the West Indians cheaply, only Samuels stopping them from a real demolition job. Shame they lost those 2 wickets at the close though...Guptill and Watling both played back to pretty full deliveries - just a lack of concentration against the part time bowler I think. Guptill was looking ominous though, pretty much everything hit the middle of the bat when I was watching.
Didn't work out too well in this Test...still to your rowing Kiwis 
Have to say that NZ did pretty well in the Tests though, considering how tame they were looking early in the tour. Were in decent positions on days 4 or 5 in both Tests really, so saying they were swept by WI doesn't really give NZ any credit.
Finding themselves a wicket taking spinner would be VERY helpful in these type of tours ie. Narine and Deonarine took 18 wkts over the 2 Tests, Vettori and Williamson took 4 (in about half the number of overs of course).
Have to say that NZ did pretty well in the Tests though, considering how tame they were looking early in the tour. Were in decent positions on days 4 or 5 in both Tests really, so saying they were swept by WI doesn't really give NZ any credit. Finding themselves a wicket taking spinner would be VERY helpful in these type of tours ie. Narine and Deonarine took 18 wkts over the 2 Tests, Vettori and Williamson took 4 (in about half the number of overs of course).
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
When your part-time spinner gets your batsmen out via variation, spin, and guile...something is very wrong.
More detailed thoughts Tuesday.
More detailed thoughts Tuesday.
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