Pakistan in England/Scotland 2006

[MUFC1987]

Good to see Clarke in the squad, a good batsman down the order. :happy

 

[BigCrickNan]

England squad for the Twenty20 international and five-match one-day international series against Pakistan: AJ Strauss (Middlesex, capt), ME Trescothick (Somerset), AN Cook (Essex), IR Bell (Warwickshire), KP Pietersen (Hampshire), PD Collingwood (Durham), EC Joyce (Middlesex), R Clarke (Surrey), MH Yardy (Sussex), JWM Dalrymple (Middlesex), CMW Read (Nottinghamshire, wkt), SI Mahmood (Lancashire), SCJ Broad Leicestershire), D Gough (Essex), SJ Harmison (Durham), J Lewis (Gloucestershire).


Heres the full squad.

 

[evertonfan]

Good to see Clarke in the squad, a good batsman down the order. :happy

And Chapple isn't?

 

[MUFC1987]

And Chapple isn't?

Chapple isn't a batsman. Clarke is the closest thing we have to a batting all rounder after Flintoff.

Anyways, I expect the team to be:

Trescothick
Joyce
Strauss
Pietersen
Collingwood
Dalrymple
Clarke
Read
Gough
Broad
Harmison.

Perhaps Yardy will play (instead of Clarke) on a turning track and maybe Lewis over Broad is the ball is swinging, or in the team depending on Gough's injuries. I'd like to see Joyce at number 4 or 5, but I expect him to open the batting.

 

[Eddie]

Good to see Clarke in the squad, a good batsman down the order

good batsman? averages ~9 over like 20 ODI's..

He's gonna fall into the category of good county palyers who just CAN'T make the step-up to international cricket..

 

[evertonfan]

Chapple isn't a batsman. Clarke is the closest thing we have to a batting all rounder after Flintoff.

Anyways, I expect the team to be:

Trescothick
Joyce
Strauss
Pietersen
Collingwood
Dalrymple
Clarke
Read
Gough
Broad
Harmison.

Perhaps Yardy will play (instead of Clarke) on a turning track and maybe Lewis over Broad is the ball is swinging, or in the team depending on Gough's injuries. I'd like to see Joyce at number 4 or 5, but I expect him to open the batting.

I want Yardy in that squad and then it'll be fine. I'm still unhappy over the axeing of Chapple; England's neglection of him is criminal.

 

[Eddie]

want Yardy in that squad and then it'll be fine. I'm still unhappy over the axeing of Chapple; England's neglection of him is criminal.

they say he's injured on cricinfo

 

[BigCrickNan]

Chapple isn't a batsman. Clarke is the closest thing we have to a batting all rounder after Flintoff.

Flintoffs a bowling all-rounders

 

[evertonfan]

Eddie was right, Clarke really does average only 9 in ODI's. He deserves a second chance I agree, but I think we have better players at our disposal.

 

[MUFC1987]

Chapple isn't a batsman. Clarke is the closest thing we have to a batting all rounder after Flintoff.

Flintoffs a bowling all-rounders

Only in recent years after he's got over his injury problems. At the end of the day, to replace Flintoff, who bats at number 5 or 6, you need a batsman who can bowl a bit, rather than a bowler who can bat a bit. If he batted at Number 8 or something, I'd probably say that we needed a better bowler, but as it is, we need someone who can bat.

Eddie was right, Clarke really does average only 9 in ODI's. He deserves a second chance I agree, but I think we have better players at our disposal.

Only players that the selectors have overlooked though. There are very few all rounders in county Cricket who can bat and bowl to a decent level, unless we manage to convince Sean Ervine to play for England. I admit it's not ideal, but then it very rarely is. In County cricket, a top six batsman who bowls pace, apart from Clarke and Collingwood, there is literally nobody.

 

[evertonfan]

Only in recent years after he's got over his injury problems. At the end of the day, to replace Flintoff, who bats at number 5 or 6, you need a batsman who can bowl a bit, rather than a bowler who can bat a bit. If he batted at Number 8 or something, I'd probably say that we needed a better bowler, but as it is, we need someone who can bat.

Well that's a good point, but we could stick Dalrymple at 6 as he is a batsmen who bowls a bit, and then we could stick someone like Chapple at 8. We may not have a pace all-rounder at 6 or a spinner who bats a bit at 8, but the roles are reversed. I hope people understand what i'm saying here.

In County cricket, a top six batsman who bowls pace, apart from Clarke and Collingwood, there is literally nobody.

You could maybe add Dimitri Mascarenhas to that list. Shane Warne holds him in very high regard.

 

[Eddie]

collingwood's a better allrounder than clarke..stats are better too..not to mention the fielding.

My 1st XI would be:

AJ Strauss (Middlesex, capt),
ME Trescothick (Somerset),
AN Cook (Essex),
KP Pietersen (Hampshire),
PD Collingwood (Durham),
JWM Dalrymple (Middlesex),
MH Yardy (Sussex),
CMW Read (Nottinghamshire, wkt),
D Gough (Essex),
SCJ Broad Leicestershire),
SJ Harmison (Durham),

 

[MUFC1987]

You could maybe add Dimitri Mascarenhas to that list. Shane Warne holds him in very high regard.

I've said in this thread that he could work very well at Number 8 for England, but in the top 6 you need people who can score centuries. He's never scored a One Day century, so to expect him to come into the England team and hold his own is asking a bit much.

 

[evertonfan]

He's never scored a One Day century, so to expect him to come into the England team and hold his own is asking a bit much.

Neither has Clarke.

 

[Eddie]

Dimitri Mascarenhas, saw him bowl during Hampshire's cup run..maybe a bit slow for international cricket?

Mostly bowled medium-pace off-cutters..

Very tidy though