Pakistan vs England Jul-Aug-Sep 2010

[Iridium]

Not really what Pakistan need right now. Just as they look on the up, they let England get a huge 300+ partnership, capitulate for 74 all out, lose 4 wickets early in their second innings, and then get match fixing allegations brought up implicating a few players in the team. It ain't looking too bright. It's a never-ending saga with Pakistan cricket.

 

[apesnani]

lets hope this can mean that PCB is finally run in a proper way

 

[Dare]

because this is not an isolated incident, and there are serious question marks about corruption in the board. Pakistan needs to be suspended from tests and ODIs (yep world cup as well) and anti-corruption units need to go through the PCB with a fine comb. managers, agents, coaches, board members.

Who is going to be left? There seems to be some tradition going on here. This isn't the first tome some Pakistani cricketers were involved in issues like this.

 

[subversive]

Wow...



The fixer is apparently the manager of quite a few players too.

 

[apesnani]

Wow...



The fixer is apparently the manager of quite a few players too.

Looking at the picture, makes me want to slap the bastard Butt

 

[CG123]

This pictures a good one, Prior's looking down the wicket so you can presume the balls already down near the batsman, while Butt seems to be looking at the no ball. :laugh

 

[zub2005]

To ban Pakistan, is not right at all. It is sad to see this but banning a nation is wrong.

 

[subversive]

The News of the World site also says:

Majeed turned up for our first meeting on Monday, August 16, at the Hilton in London's Park Lane, dressed in jeans and a sweater. He immediately started bragging of his connections with the Pakistani team. "I manage ten of the players," he told us. "I do all their affairs like contracts, sponsorship, marketing, everything. I work very closely with the PCB (Pakistan Cricket Board)."

So there could be even more players involved than Asif, Amir, Akmal, and Butt...

 

[CG123]

You have to assume Umar Amin and Wahab Riaz were in it as well, as one of the pictures shows the ****wit with both of them.

 

[pcfan123]

Aamer is the next Wasim Hansie

 

[Params7]

This pictures a good one, Prior's looking down the wicket so you can presume the balls already down near the batsman, while Butt seems to be looking at the no ball. :laugh

:laugh

 

[pcfan123]

THe lack of information is killing me, whats going on the news channels? Im sure the Indian media is going nuts

 

[LongLegs?]

You have to assume Umar Amin and Wahab Riaz were in it as well, as one of the pictures shows the flingwit with both of them.

Actually, it's highly possibly he was just showing off the cash. Seems like that sort of guy to me. But, you never know.

Absolute shambles though. Crazy for Amir to do such a thing when he had such a bright future ahead of him.

 

[aus_maestro]

I knew Afridi was just hungry that day, what a saint.

 

[sifter132]

Like I sad earlier, if South Africa was not banned after the Cronje fiasco, then you really cant ban Pakistan.

Well SA didn't have any upcoming series for a start when the scandal broke in April 2000 - SA didn't play again until August. And in particular they didn't have any evidence that there was future fixes in the wings. Here however, this betting guy's claiming that there are a couple of the Eng-Pak ODIs ready to be fixed. Common sense says that straight away those ODIs should be cancelled if there is any weight put in the claims. And I'd be cancelling any Pakistan cricket until they find out who exactly is involved.

That is also the difference from the Cronje/South Africa tale. Cronje was the only guy who'd been implicated by the bookies. It was he himself who had drawn other players like Gibbs into the scam. So by getting rid of Cronje then the links with the bookies were severed. This time it's different because Salman, Kamran, Amir and Asif have all been implicated - not just one man. So all 4 have to go and maybe others if more names get mentioned in investigations. That's why it may be easier just to temporarily suspend any Pakistan cricket until they get a better grip on who might be invovled. Otherwise any games they play will have questions over them and will be hard for viewers, fans etc to take seriously.

Azharuddin was also banned in India, was India banned from crikcet, no

Why is Gibbs still allowed to play cricket?

Cronje fixed matches, yet RSA is allowed to play. This is the same crime, same punishmnet.

Well because Azharuddin, Cronje and also Saleem Malik were deemed to be the ones who had gone along with the bookies and had tried to influence others into taking cash too. Whereas Gibbs took cash yes, but never went through with his deal: to score less than 20 - he scored 70 odd from memory. So that's why he got 6mths only, because he was too timid to actually do it. Who knows why though... Maybe he couldn't say no to Hansie's face, maybe he wanted to think about it or maybe he was planning to do it all along but he either got hit by a wave of consciousness or he got carried away in the middle. He probably got off a little easily if I'd been deciding. Maybe a year or 2 out of the game would have been better, but he certainly wasn't as involved as Cronje was - nowhere near. Same for Mark Waugh, he should have been given a suspension too, but more for his stupidity, not for deliberately bringing the game into disrepute like Cronje, Azha and Malik did.

So given that according to the article, Amir has had clear dealings with a fixer directly and has actually gone through with the fixes, then he's going to be in a lot more trouble than Gibbs who never saw the bookie and didn't go through with it.