Psych-Ward Mafia - Night 4!!

[Abhas]

Though I would not have liked to post it this early into the game, but I believe it is necessary to prevent the town making another mistake.

I request people to please go and have a look at the football mafia, where I was Messi, and was immune to night kills. What happens? First day, I'm lynched by a bunch of non-reasoning townies, and the mafia ofcourse.

People have a style of play, and you'll have to appreciate that. I prefer to be more involved, throwing accusations on my way along, just to build up on any leads I may have. We need to have a discussion in the thread itself, unlike mafia who can discuss outside as well. I don't hesitate to lead a lynch if I feel the user needs some pressure, or is acting suspiciously. After the Varun lynch gone wrong, I've had to rethink my play, and I'm not planning to put down a vote till I'm clear about it.
My idea of accusing people and putting a FOS on them is to judge people's reactions. Probably BKB would vividly remember that game where I accused him and was persistent with it, because I had a strong suspicion. The first time I shot an arrow in the dark with an FOS, his reactions and others reactions told a story.

Regarding the fact that I may ignore some posts, and start voicing my opinion straightaway, this is referring to User's lynch of BKB. I feel BKB's a townie, now what do you think your reaction would have been had I gone on to say, "No User, I feel BKB's a townie. I wonder why you are accusing him again and again. FOS: User2010 / ARay"

I can guarantee a lobby against me, with accusations of me and him being mafia. Guarantee.
Having played numerous mafia games, this is one thing I've realized, every word of your post will be scrutinized. Sometimes correctly, most of the times, incorrectly. That's the reason, I left it out in the first post, because I felt thus far his one vote did not have any impact on the game. There has been no discussion from the man himself, and no conclusive evidence of him being guilty or innocent.

What User and ARay are doing is, they have conveniently linked me with BKB, and anything I say in his favour is leading to "They must be together".
If anyone accuses a player, whom I think is a townie, of course I would object to that. being subtle is the only way you can survive, considering we have dumb townies, mafia, and people who over-think playing the same game, all trying to get rid of you.

My opinions differ from ARay's at the moment, simply because I have a different thought process, and I prefer a dynamic view of the situation. So, if I've said someone is townie, and his/others posts suggest otherwise, I would have no hesitation to contradict myself and place him in the mafia's list.


Alright, I'm basing my evaluation of the players on Ray's last post. Having gone through the last 2 pages, he's summarized the situation.

BKB - To me he's a townie. Agreed, he went wrong with the Varun lynch, but so did I, and 4 other people. Honestly though, anyone in their right mind would have thought Varun was guilty on the basis of his play.

ARay - Was definitely looking pro-town, but his consistent speculation about the psycho led me to think he might have some relation to the psycho. Put an FOS on him earlier, looking to generate other people's thoughts, but there weren't any due to the fact that I was placed under the scanner, and the focus shifted quickly to me and BKB. I would still keep him in the suspects list though. FOS: ARay

Ollie: I have a neutral opinion on him yet, I would not say he's been a pro-townie, but hasn't looked much mafia either. Needs to post a bit more.

Chewie: Considering it's his first game, and by now he must have been acquainted with the process, my eye's on him. Looking townie at the moment.

User2010: To me he's been a suspect all around. Though I do not condemn the fact that he's consistently attacking BKB, that's a good thing to do, but seriously, even after his defence, he's showed no signs of relent.
Having lost two townies, we can't just go for the 'gut' feeling anymore when it comes to lynching people out. there has to be a proper reasoning why he's still put him under the vote, and till that happens, FOS: User2010

Hedger: True, been quiet, and hasn't contributed too much to the discussions. Could be busy, but that puts him in the same situation as Ollie. I initially linked him as being Varun's 'companion' (who turned out to be townie), and that led to Ollie suspecting him. Can't rule him out as being Mafia. FOS: Hedger

Aditya: Definitely needs to post more. His posts are remind me of Shantanu's last game. FOS: Aditya

Alright, Summarizing,
FOS: Aditya / User2010 / ARay / Hedger

 

[ARay]

Well that was definitely a solid post from you. Clearly you have stated you thoughts clearly. I appreciate your arguements against me. I think they are quite valid and you or anyone has every right to be wary of me.
I am pretty much wary of everyone myself. I did like your post and I think if you continue more posts as such, it will certainly help the towns chances.
I missed out on
Riz: Riz is a character who has was in the wagon for lynching Varun. That should also be kept in mind by everyone.

 

[hedger_14]

Ollie, I at first only placed suspicion on Varun and I probably should have applied some sort of pressure but others had already questioned him and I found that the answers didn't convince me that he was actually just a townie. BKB also said that if Varun is mafia, then so is hedger and if he's not, then he's townie so afterwards, I thought of hoped that Varun was actually a townie so I placed the hammer hoping he was indeed a townie so that I would be clear and even if he was mafia, I could have probably said that I wouldn't have voted for him if I was mafia like him but then again, I doubt anybody would have believed me and lynched me off the next day giving the mafia another kill during the night.

Sorry I've been a bit quiet this game, I'm actually pretty busy at this time with my school certificate next week but I'll try and make a few posts each day. And Ollie, you lynched me straight away on day one, agreeing with Abhas that I was trying to save Varun. And of course, Varun ended up as a townie anyway so I sort of had a reason to save him. Yes, there was some thoughts that made me think he was mafia, including his bad way of defending himself which made me lynch him off in the end but I did have a strong feeling he was townie as well, especially at the start. So Ollie, are you trying to put suspicion off yourself by attacking me, to me, I think you are townie but I have some suspicion on you.

FOS: Ollie

I'm also a bit suspicious of Aditya/Riz. Aditya in particular, he has already played some games, I think even more than me yet he has made, what, one post, maybe two. He has been even quieter than myself so I think he might be mafia. Riz, meanwhile could be using inexperience to help him and not post much, as his first post was just 'lol at varun', then his next, 'give me a break, it's my first game'. He could well be mafia as well but I doubt it, to me, one of these 2 are mafia.

FOS: Aditya, Riz

 

[riz7khan12]

Riz is a character who has was in the wagon for lynching Varun.

as was the majority, i was sure by the way varun was reacting to the FOS's ing that he was trying to conceal his identity like a mafia would, especially in the early stages of the game. Until it was too late for him and he posted his identity as a townie to try and save himself.

I do think that hedger is another mafia/psychopath as he was quick to jump on the chance to take the hammer vote but tried to conceal his "excitement" in his post.

FOS: Hedger_14

I didn't really want to lynch him on Day 1, he hasn't defended himself well so even if he isn't a mafia, he may be of a cult or what some people before have been saying, the pyschopath.

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Riz, meanwhile could be using inexperience to help him and not post much, as his first post was just 'lol at varun', then his next, 'give me a break, it's my first game'. He could well be mafia as well but I doubt it, to me, one of these 2 are mafia.

Contradicting yourself?

 

[hedger_14]

How am I contradicting myself? I said you might be, but I think Aditya is more likely as he is more experienced but if he's not, then I think you might be.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Alright, Abhas is just acting as if he's surely town alligned. To be very fair, No one of us know who is who bar the mafias. All of us will always pretend to be town alligned. Isn't it?

I can guarantee a lobby against me, with accusations of me and him being mafia. Guarantee.

Why are you so worried about that? Actually, you're the one trying to protect BKB. That to a bit too much. Why do you feel he's a townie? That post actually wasn't a solid post from you Abhas, sorry Ray. It was just a post to try and save yourself and your patner (BKB).

To me he's been a suspect all around.

Was definitely looking pro-town, but his consistent speculation about the psycho led me to think he might have some relation to the psycho. Put an FOS on him earlier, looking to generate other people's thoughts, but there weren't any due to the fact that I was placed under the scanner, and the focus shifted quickly to me and BKB. I would still keep him in the suspects list though.

You are having a FOS on us (me and Ray) just because we linked you with BKB? I've been a suspect all round, why? Just because I think BKB is a mafia. I say it again, my lynch stays.

 

[Abhas]

Alright, Abhas is just acting as if he's surely town alligned. To be very fair, No one of us know who is who bar the mafias. All of us will always pretend to be town alligned. Isn't it?

Yeah, I never said believe every word of what I wrote. Use your own reasoning abilities to see if there is anything I've said which is out of the world?
I presented my case, I asked you to do the same.. I'm sorry but I don't see any from your side yet.

Why are you so worried about that?

http://www.planetcricket.org/forums...all-mafia-mafia-win-hmarka-guddu-65562-9.html
Just read from post #129 downwards for about 4 pages worth of nonsense.

http://www.planetcricket.org/forums...ues/cricket-mafia-mad-abhas-win-64515-18.html
Read post #270 downwards till the time I'm lynched again..
You'll know yourself.

Actually, you're the one trying to protect BKB. That to a bit too much. Why do you feel he's a townie? That post actually wasn't a solid post from you Abhas, sorry Ray. It was just a post to try and save yourself and your patner (BKB).

Ofcourse I'm trying to defend him because I feel he's not mafia. Will we ever stop "experimenting" and guessing to be a little reasonable? I'm fine with you going for a suspicion, but voting directly is something I'm very against, looking at yesterday's results of us being 2 players down.

Can I say, you're being overly protective of ARay?

Also, I did not post to impress the others.. I posted with an argument and a reasoning.

You are having a FOS on us (me and Ray) just because we linked you with BKB? I've been a suspect all round, why? Just because I think BKB is a mafia. I say it again, my lynch stays.

Ofcourse not. I had an FOS on ARay first, then he started linking me up with BKB. I have clearly posted why I had a suspicion for him.
About you, Someone first needs to answer my question here:

Varun was taken away into a separate room by Richard and Joeseph to be killed. Joeseph had a bad feeling about this, but Richard insisted, so Varun was killed off.

From the write-up, I still can't decipher whether Richard and Joeseph are the good people or the bad people.
Because I suspect someone to be Joeseph, but won't reveal the name incase he's the good person, and becomes the mafia target.
I need your help guys on this one.

And I'll reply to the other posts in a bit.. Going out right now.

 

[Gaurav_7]

By that quote from the writeup I feel (it seems obvious) both are bad. Otherwise, why they would want to kill anyone? And, how is that about me?

 

[Aditya]

I agree that I am not posting much but that does not mean that I am mafia.

I believe that BKB is mafia. At the moment I don't have a really good reason to prove it but as soon as Varun was lynched he posted this post. "Someone had to go" this line makes me believe that maybe he is a mafia but as I mentioned I don't have a strong reason to prove it.

I am more suspicious of Hedger. Everyone has different style of playing mafia games. Someone would be active and posting but someone would not post much but silently follow the game (like me). Targeting someone on the basis of his activity is not fair.

FOS : Hedger

 

[hedger_14]

I'm not targeting you. I'm putting some suspicion on you because you haven't been posting at all. You have also played a few games so you're bound to know how to play the game well and if you're a townie, normally you'd post a bit more to prove that point.

Unless you want to explain why you have been so inactive, since you've been online a fair bit over the past few days.

 

[Abhas]

I agree that I am not posting much but that does not mean that I am mafia.

I believe that BKB is mafia. At the moment I don't have a really good reason to prove it but as soon as Varun was lynched he posted this post. "Someone had to go" this line makes me believe that maybe he is a mafia but as I mentioned I don't have a strong reason to prove it.

I am more suspicious of Hedger. Everyone has different style of playing mafia games. Someone would be active and posting but someone would not post much but silently follow the game (like me). Targeting someone on the basis of his activity is not fair.

FOS : Hedger

Why would you silently follow the game? Don't you have anything to contribute to find who the mafia are? Or is it that you yourself is a part of the mafia, so, considering you don't have to bother finding them, you don't bother posting in the discussion.

So far, there has been no constructive post from your side which contributed to any discussion whatsoever. Also, this post shows you're not sure what to do.. trying to roll with the crowd.. You say you believe BKB's mafia, and present an argument, User made, for that belief, but in the next sentence you say you are more suspicious or hedger, and then you FOS him. Where's the argument here?

I definitely have my suspicions on you for the reasons aforementioned.

FOS: Aditya

 

[hedger_14]

And also, why do you just think BKB is mafia, wouldn't you place suspicion on him or lynch him if you truly believe so rather than just say you think you are and then suspect you just cause I suspected you. Doesn't really make sense much to me.


And yeah, why would you just be silently following the game if you are a townie. Normally new mafia members would do that to minimise the number of mistakes they have made.

 

[Abhas]

By that quote from the writeup I feel (it seems obvious) both are bad. Otherwise, why they would want to kill anyone? And, how is that about me?

I feel you're Joseph.
If you look at the buildup of events, you were constantly saying Varun's not guilty, and probably just fell due to lack of experience.
In the writeup, it is mentioned how reluctant Joseph was to kill Varun.

Definitely an uncanny resemblance to the two situations. The only thing I was not sure was, whether they are the good guys. If they are bad, I have no issues with associating a role with a person.

 

[Aditya]

Why would you silently follow the game? Don't you have anything to contribute to find who the mafia are? Or is it that you yourself is a part of the mafia, so, considering you don't have to bother finding them, you don't bother posting in the discussion.

So far, there has been no constructive post from your side which contributed to any discussion whatsoever. Also, this post shows you're not sure what to do.. trying to roll with the crowd.. You say you believe BKB's mafia, and present an argument, User made, for that belief, but in the next sentence you say you are more suspicious or hedger, and then you FOS him. Where's the argument here?

I definitely have my suspicions on you for the reasons aforementioned.

FOS: Aditya

I am definitely not sure who is mafia at the moment. That's why I have not lynched anyone. I also mentioned that I don't have a strong point to prove that BKB is a mafia. But I felt that maybe Hedger is mafia because he was suspicious of me due to my activity. By silently following the game I mean that I am not posting much but still keeping an eye on the stuff going on and when I will feel that I know who is mafia and have a reason to prove I will post. I am sure that you cannot judge that someone is a mafia or not on the basis of his activity?

 

[Abhas]

What extra will you spot, and from where? ALL the townies are discussing in this thread. This is where all information lies. I also believe we all have eyes, and if there is something to be detected, we can surely see.

If your definition of a Townie is "voter", then I'm sorry you're very highly mistaken. It is the town which needs to search for the Mafia, not the other way round.