Puddle Mafia 04 - Endgame Mafia (barmyarmy, BKB, RPHKR win)

[thedon5]

Nowhere did I say that. You should suspect me; you should suspect everyone (apart from Treva maybe )
Keeping an open mind is good town play.

Hehe, I didn't mean that as a question in case you didn't know.

No, you said you "took issue" to me suspecting you as Mafia.

 

[barmyarmy]

Nope. I took issue with you saying I wasn't contributing to the game - the bit about "adding near nothing".

 

[thedon5]

You haven't posted much at all, especially by your standards. As I said, you are busy, but it shouldn't mean that we cannot have suspicions about you.

And it wasn't really boring, as you described it. I'm sure there were at least 3-4 claims in the last couple of days, that is hardly boring and more input would definitely have helped more.

 

[treva]

We need someone to come up with something to get this game moving. Are we going to push for more claims from people, take a stab in the dark? Whatever it is it needs to be decisive. So far we've barely come close to a majority lynch at any point.

 

[BKB1991]

Quite obvious that Abhas was the BD. Also interesting argument on RPHKR. I have felt he has generally been playing pro-town trying to initiate discussions, but I am keeping my eye on this argument as well.

Since my doubts from last night have been unresolved, I would like to enquire who did you RB, Smurf? Something doesnt seem right about your game play, and you arent a confirmed PR role in my eyes yet.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

I just posted my thoughts, but was re-directed to Aditya's game :s

In a rush, so I'll just post the key points.

1) Roleblocked thedon5 and was successful.

2) Still find him suspicious, but it's good to see he's changed his hide-behind-the-wagon play.

3) Was convinced RPHKR was contributing somewhat, but looking deeper into it, most of it was stemming from his Day 1 analysis of the write-up.

4) Abhas death obviously puts me in the firing line. I believe they thought they could kill 2 birds with one stone. Kill a really good player in Abhas and bring the heat on the guy who he was gunning for - the only revealed town PR.

5) Sedition mentioned why bother RB'ing when they could have just killed me. I believe the reason for that was because they fell for Manly's dossier crap.

 

[Gaurav_7]

4) Abhas death obviously puts me in the firing line. I believe they thought they could kill 2 birds with one stone. Kill a really good player in Abhas and bring the heat on the guy who he was gunning for - the only revealed town PR.

5) Sedition mentioned why bother RB'ing when they could have just killed me. I believe the reason for that was because they fell for Manly's dossier crap.

Wow. I don't really believe that.

I think Smurf is mafia RB if at all.

Lynch: Smurf

 

[Aditya]

You haven't posted much at all, especially by your standards. As I said, you are busy, but it shouldn't mean that we cannot have suspicions about you.

Thedon, what do you really mean by " it shouldn't mean we cannot have suspicions about you"! Being suspicious is one thing and just acting to be, is another. You are suspicious of Colin, due to his inactivity right? So, what are you gonna do about it? Look, we've reached a point in this game, where I believe that we have to be aggressive. Say whatever you want to, that's what I feel. Just raising questions/queries ain't gonna work anymore.

Lynch : barmyarmy

Colin, do you really feel you have contributed the way you usually do? If yes, I tend to differ. If you think otherwise, then I'd be very interested to know what exactly have you contributed to this game. Now, I admit I haven't been active either although I believe that, posting mine and Manly's convo in QT, is at least slightly helpful. If you tend to differ, then that's your views. For now, I'm not convinced with your gameplay, neither I am with Sedition's but others don't feel the same and at this point, we need a majority.

 

[barmyarmy]

I've already answered that question twice. As you don't appear to have read the the thread I'll answer it a third time.
Yes, I have been keeping my cards closer to my chest regarding who I think is mafia.
No, I haven't been providing less analysis and comment than usual. Despite being busy I feel that I've contributed quite a bit to the game. Search my posts if you disagree.

I'm going with User on this one regarding Smurf. The way he moved straight to a lynch makes me think he has night info.

Lynch: Smurf

 

[BKB1991]

And why did you block the don Smurf?

I still theres something about your gameplay that just doesnt make sense to me atleast. Add to the fact that Abhas wasnt sure and now hes dead, is not helping your cause.

 

[RPHKR]

Colin hasn't being playing 'his game' at all. He remains the most active player all time from what I have observed from him in the previous games I followed. He should get him replaced if he is 'really' busy.

My analysis on Smurf's claims,

N1: Block BKB
It can be on both sides. That was the safest one to say if he's a mafia. But with what Zhuorb said, doesn't justify that well that he blocked BKB.

N2: Block treva(unsuccessful)
Treva being blocked. A town PR would have chosen him considering he was inactive before that. But you should have been blocked if you were unsuccessful. That happened after you claimed. Yeah I agree that it is highly unlikely that a mafia roleblocker targetting a town RB who's uncertain to block.

N3: Block thedon
You had the suspicion on him and blocked. Scumhunt move if you're a town. This is a dodgy move if you're a mafia. Still can be figured out by thedon.

1. Zhuorb's claim on Prior, night 1 kill of BKB indicates high chance of lying.
2. Abhas had suspicion on you single till the end. Looks like he had known something more.

These two things suggests you can be the mafia RB and chances that mod has given fakeclaims, Trott's not necessary in the game. From the start, you were giving town vibes, given the death of Abhas.

Lynch: Papa_Smurf
Waiting for thedon's reply on your night action though.

 

[Gaurav_7]

I'm going with User on this one regarding Smurf. The way he moved straight to a lynch makes me think he has night info.

No. If that's what you are going for, I'd recommend not to do so actually.

 

[barmyarmy]

No. If that's what you are going for, I'd recommend not to do so actually.

Ok...
Then can you explain why you were so incredulous about his reply and lynched him straight away?
I'm the one who has been sticking up for Smurf here (yesterday and before) but at this point in the game there are going to be people who have extra info.

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Wow. I don't really believe that.

I think Smurf is mafia RB if at all.

Lynch: Smurf

That's a pretty strong statement to make based on feeling alone.

 

[Gaurav_7]

I know but, I'm a little confused. With Bus driver in there you know..

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Wow. I don't really believe that.

I think Smurf is mafia RB if at all.

Lynch: Smurf

And there we have our 1st mafia.

Lynch: User2010

And while we're at,

FOS: thedon5

I didnt roleblock anyone last night. It was Sedition's post that made me think about this - I'm more likely to roleblock a townie than a mafia, given our numbers.

So, I decided to say I roleblocked thedon5, because I'm convinced he's mafia. The only people who should have known I was lying straight off the bat should have been the mafia. The tracker or watcher should have had still some doubt in their mind because of the busdriver.

It's up to you guys if you believe me or not. But to me User and thedon are definitely mafia. They've been found out either way in my perspective - if you guys dont believe me now, then you will definitely believe me after my death.