Puddle Mafia 04 - Endgame Mafia (barmyarmy, BKB, RPHKR win)

[thedon5]

I reckon there's a good chance Ste is Mafia.

 

[Sedition]

Dunno about Ste, was suspicious of him for similar reasons as I was Abhas yesterday, and obviously was wrong about the latter. Today though his switch from Smurf to User and keeping it there after the claim looks a bit weird.

Also Treva's change of opinion seems strange, but we can easily verify his DV claim today.

Other than Zhuorb, who has already claimed, I'm pretty sure RPHKR is the only one who hasn't responded since User's tracker claim.

 

[thedon5]

Assuming all claims so far are legitimate, it means that two of the four remaining are Mafia. Of those, I reckon it's most likely to be Ste and RPHKR. Maybe barmy too. I more think he's Mafia since some of the other guys who have played more suspiciously have ended up being town. His behaviour has been mostly town, but by the process of elimination it could be him that is Mafia.

I'm in favour of a mass claim now between the remaining four. I wasn't really at the start as it would've completely given away my role, but now it would be a good idea for day 5.

 

[Gaurav_7]

I meant that if Smurf is mafia, the reason you didn't show up on User's tracking result probably means Smurf is GF and sent his goon to kill and the actual roleblocker targeted you. His lie about blocking you, then changing it to say no one when he came under fire seems like he knew you were the block target, but when you hadn't responded and User caught him, he figured you were a passive role and the block had no way of being confirmed/denied.

This. I seriously think this is the scenario. That's the only way I see it. Seriously, why won't a town RB block anyone? I don't buy the 'I could have blocked a town PR role'. In fact when we think further, it means eventually a town PR is blocked already as the RB doesn't use his role. It's all made up, I am sure.

 

[thedon5]

Exactly. We know for sure he is Mafia.

User, who are you tracking tonight? I don't want to go after the same guy as you.

 

[Gaurav_7]

We seriously shouldn't be revealing it, should we? See, there's a RB and a killer out there. I don't think we both will be alive come the next day. I don't know what to do. Will wait for others' input on this. Also, a tracker and a cop together seems weird still.

 

[barmyarmy]

Either Don is lying or there's some bastard mod going on here.
I'm going to claim as well. I'm Paul Collingwood, Cop.
Night 1: Investigated Sedition (blocked)
Night 2: Investigated Abhas (town)
Night 3: Investigated Sedition (town)

My role PM says that I'm respected and looked up to within the game. Also my initials are "PC".

Too many things don't make sense here. We have Smurf claiming a night role, then claiming he didn't do it, then being claimed by Don that he did. We have User claiming he was seen around no-one when Don says he was blocked.
I had assumed that one of User or Smurf was lying but after Don's claim I'm not sure about him either.

I have been soft claiming cop throughout the game. Hence my point about not publicly identifying mafia as I wanted to stay alive. This is, believe it or not, the first time I've been the cop...

 

[Gaurav_7]

Alright, that's why I wanted to hide my night 2 track result. I tracked Colin and saw him around Abhas on night 2. I knew Colin had a role and always believed he was town given his play. That actually confirms him more than theDon maybe.

 

[thedon5]

Not at all weird, there was both a tracker and a cop in all of PD's previous games. Both roles were suggested in the write-up as well.

Fair enough if you don't want to reveal, I didn't think about that tbh.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Also, a tracker and a cop together seems weird still.

Wait! 2 cops and a tracker? Wth?

 

[thedon5]

Either Don is lying or there's some bastard mod going on here.
I'm going to claim as well. I'm Paul Collingwood, Cop.
Night 1: Investigated Sedition (blocked)
Night 2: Investigated Abhas (town)
Night 3: Investigated Sedition (town)

My role PM says that I'm respected and looked up to within the game. Also my initials are "PC".

Too many things don't make sense here. We have Smurf claiming a night role, then claiming he didn't do it, then being claimed by Don that he did. We have User claiming he was seen around no-one when Don says he was blocked.
I had assumed that one of User or Smurf was lying but after Don's claim I'm not sure about him either.

I have been soft claiming cop throughout the game. Hence my point about not publicly identifying mafia as I wanted to stay alive. This is, believe it or not, the first time I've been the cop...

Bastard mod, or you are lying.

We got the same results, didn't we? That seems strange, TWO completely sane cops.

I can understand why they blocked you night one as you were the most active on day 1.

I'm not sure what there is to not believe about my claim. Either you are lying, or there are actually two cops. The second is most likely.

Sedition was making up stories. He is Mafia, but someone else is the RB. He's still out there.

Anyway, if there are two cops and a tracker, it's good for the town, even if one of us is RBed and another is killed, it means we'll still have a chance to pick up some Mafia.

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Alright, that's why I wanted to hide my night 2 track result. I tracked Colin and saw him around Abhas on night 2. I knew Colin had a role and always believed he was town given his play. That actually confirms him more than theDon maybe.

What exactly was ever so town about his play? He posted a lot in day 1, and barely posted after that. That should make him more suspicious if anything. Perhaps just your tracking result maybe?

I reckon BKB V2 is vanilla and our Ste and RPHKR are our remaining Mafia.

 

[Gaurav_7]

What exactly was ever so town about his play? He posted a lot in day 1, and barely posted after that. That should make him more suspicious if anything. Perhaps just your tracking result maybe?

There's a thing about Colin which tells me he's town. I think he is tbh. Yes, he hasn't posted much and I have been saying that earlier that there's something weird about him this game. But, his claim and my track result makes me think he's town and is saying the truth.

 

[Sedition]

Yesterday I was thinking we may not even have a cop if we have two masons that can clear each other, effectively two innocent results if used correctly.

Two cops and masons? I don't buy it. Looks like stall tactics going on with Smurf's lynch honestly.

I think you mean Smurf was making up stories, not me thedon

 

[Aditya]

Colin, you were blocked on night 1 and hence didn't get any result on Sedition. Now, why did you want to investigate Abhas on the next night phase and not Sedition again? If you say, you wanted to know the alignment of a important player like Abhas, that makes sense but then why didn't you investigate him on night 1? Now, on night 3, you again investigated Sediton, so if I may say "back to circle one".

As much as I would like to believe Colin, I can't help and say, if he and Sedition are indeed working together, his claim is terrific and most safe. Abhas is dead and hence a cleared townie. Sedition is his mafia partner and claiming cop, helps his own team mate. I'm just pointing out the possibility, I might well be wrong here.

 

[thedon5]

I think you mean Smurf was making up stories, not me thedon

Yep. For some reason half the time when I want to type Smurf I type Sedition.