Puddle Mafia 04 - Endgame Mafia (barmyarmy, BKB, RPHKR win)

[thedon5]

Who do we go after? I am clueless. I have absolutely no leads on anyone.

 

[ved_]

Wow I am kinda lost here. I do think one of the three are possibly lying, but I genuinely cannot find out who. We really didnt make lynches in this game and thats coming to hurt us in this game.

And yes I agree with someone above who said Zhuorb and Aditya should have been helping more. Its just ridiculous how these guys are simply 'saved' by their role/character claims.

@ste - soft claiming means hinting it but not making it confirmed enough for you to be a target. I wasn't unhappy to have Aditya and Sedition FOSing me as it improved my chances of staying alive. The point I would make is that I have played like the cop throughout the game so it clearly wasn't a made up in response to Don claim.

If we're not careful we're going to run out of time in the day here. Really need Aditya and Zhuorb to show some interest.

I've already stated why I have been away, had to attend a wedding, and it's kerplucking boring to have to attend long weddings. Anyway, I'm back from that (whew!) so I'll probably have a lot more to contribute now. Take that as an excuse or an apology, I don't really care. What I'm gonna focus on now is the current game.

Can someone please make a list of all the role-claims and character claims, just like Papa Smurf/BKB1991 did a few pages ago? I think I may have missed some. Would definitely help if I know. All I know (or for the record, remember :|) right now is -
Zhuorb - Matt Prior/Psychiatrist
RPHKR - Ian Bell/Doctor
User2010 - ?/Tracker
barmyarmy - ?/Cop
thedon5 - ?/Cop
Aditya - ?/?
treva - ?/Double-voter
ste mc efc - ?/?
BKB1991 - Ian Bell/Survivor

Have I missed out on anyone? Let me know!

I find ste mc efc's play pretty dodgy upto now. At times he's going into straight defensive mode, at times into straight aggressive. I don't know what to make of that. Keeping an eye out for him. If he's confirmed town, then I'll probably look like a fool, but whatever.

Have the mafia been given fake-claims? The way this thing's headed, all of these players are likely to be in the game, and if there are fake-claims, then it just got harder for us. Maybe that's why puddleduck provided us with two cops and one tracker? Don't really know, though. Oh and by the way, isn't there any other nation that plays cricket other than England, puddleduck?

Be back in some hours, this is all I really have to say right now.

 

[thedon5]

Did RPHKR and BKB both claim Ian Bell?

 

[Gaurav_7]

Sedition - ?: Andrew Strauss
RPHKR - Doctor: Ian Bell
BKBv2 - Survivor/Vanilla: Monty Panesar
Ste - Bulletproof: Andy Flower
Thedon - Cop: NotW
Barmyarmy - Cop: Paul Collingwood
Zhuorb - Psychiatrist: Matt Prior
User - Tracker: Stuart Broad
Treva - Double voter: Alastair Cook
Smurf - Roleblocker: Jonathan Trott
Aditya - Mason: Jimmy Anderson
Manly - Mason: Graeme Swann
Abhas - Busdriver?: Michael Vaughan
BKB - SK: Kevin Pietersen

This. Posted by Colin.

 

[thedon5]

All solid claims. At this rate I can't see anything but a Mafia win. We clearly have almost nowhere to go.

Can anyone actually suggest a lynch backed up by evidence? Rather than just I don't like User so I'll lynch him. We really need to get moving as the day will surely end soon.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Guys, can anyone who is more familiar with the KP saga enlighten us? I think the setup of the game has to be surrounding that! KP was the SK so the people against him should be mafia? I mean ones who were actual sus'ed in RL. Anyone?

 

[ved_]

I don't know. It is mentioned, though, that Kevin was just a small part in the major plan. If he was the SK, it means that the mafia probably have nothing related to KP in particular.

 

[Gaurav_7]

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated. You must be alive. Bonus point for saving Kevin...

Reading through the thread I have found this. Bonus point?

 

[Abhas]

Get a move on guys, seriously!!

 

[Aditya]

Indeed. So far in this game we have discussed discussed and discussed. What are we doing, seriously? We don't even know if we have even a single mafia dead. Let me put forward a straight point, among all the players alive, I find to go after Ste as most appropriate. Even if he is town, his role claiming hasn't come at the right time. Having said that, I don't like the way he's playing. Aggressive while putting pressure on others but not so while the pressure is on himself. Although, if any of you feel that someone else is more scummier, please do put forward your points. If not, why are we still waiting to lynch Ste?

@Thedon - So, no more suspicious of RPHKR?

 

[treva]

All solid claims. At this rate I can't see anything but a Mafia win. We clearly have almost nowhere to go.

Can anyone actually suggest a lynch backed up by evidence? Rather than just I don't like User so I'll lynch him. We really need to get moving as the day will surely end soon.

Are you actually reading my posts? I mean I've posted an actual in-depth theory and it seems to be overlooked by everyone (except Ste). It's not just a case, of 'I don't like him', there is actual thought behind it.

As far as I'm concerned out of whoever is town, there have been at least half who have played poorly simply because they aren't advancing the game at all.

Is it just me or does BKB constantly just pop and post 'I'm confused' every single day?

 

[thedon5]

Are you actually reading my posts? I mean I've posted an actual in-depth theory and it seems to be overlooked by everyone (except Ste). It's not just a case, of 'I don't like him', there is actual thought behind it.

As far as I'm concerned out of whoever is town, there have been at least half who have played poorly simply because they aren't advancing the game at all.

Is it just me or does BKB constantly just pop and post 'I'm confused' every single day?

Yes I am. So far on day 5 your theories seem centred around the belief that three investigative roles is ridiculous, and that possibly even all of us are lying. You're also trying to suggest User and Colin may be working together. It's obviously possible, I don't think it's true though. That's what I can remember you saying off the top of my head.

@Aditya: Solid claim. Just like everyone else. So I don't know what to think.

If I had to go after one person, absolutely had to, it would be one of Colin, Aditya, User or BKB. But I don't really see any real need to go after any as none scream Mafia.

I'm definitely not keen on lynching Ste, but really, where do we go...

Let's just remember, a lynch would be great, but mislynching would be worse.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Indeed. So far in this game we have discussed discussed and discussed. What are we doing, seriously? We don't even know if we have even a single mafia dead. Let me put forward a straight point, among all the players alive, I find to go after Ste as most appropriate. Even if he is town, his role claiming hasn't come at the right time. Having said that, I don't like the way he's playing. Aggressive while putting pressure on others but not so while the pressure is on himself. Although, if any of you feel that someone else is more scummier, please do put forward your points. If not, why are we still waiting to lynch Ste?

@Thedon - So, no more suspicious of RPHKR?

i'd disagree with that. i threw my lunch on user and have said more than once that think he is mafia.

i think we aren't close to lynching anyone because people are accusing different people., and then there are 2-3 people who could cast deciding voted who have been somewhat absent/silent. Those people if town could be reluctant to hammer as if they were wrong would look like mafia, so maybe the mafia have got there lynches in early to cause a bit of a stalemate.

I'll put my lynch back on user. i think he an collin's story looks like it could be contrived to clear each other and none of them seem to have came out in play, i.e. they have either been declared after it had been pretty much known, or after people have died.

lynch user

 

[treva]

Yes but we can't go no lynch for a 4th day out of 5, that is absolutely ridiculous and catastrophic town play.

My opinion is we have to target one of the investigative roles, we just have to. At the end of the day the two 'cops' all found 'town' results so far so they've been little use whatsoever even if they are telling the truth.

Worth the gamble in my eyes.

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^ In relation to Don's previous post.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

and i still don't like how colin has been soft claiming cop despite being on obvious target.