Puddle Mafia 04 - Endgame Mafia (barmyarmy, BKB, RPHKR win)

[Aditya]

Hang on, if Thedon is telling the truth and he was indeed blocked, then the question that raises is, why didn't the mafia block RPHKR (doc)? Now, that's weird. Where is RPHKR anyway?

 

[barmyarmy]

He's not telling the truth and the fact they didn't block RPHKR tells you that.
The mafia roleblocker was lynched on day 4.

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It isn't confirmed that User was town by any means. Btw, how exactly do you know that Abhas was not roleblocked? A hunch you are stating as a fact maybe?

Someone else claimed they were blocked. I'll check back later.

Found it. RPHKR was blocked on night 2. Therefore I'm not (and never have been!) the roleblocker.

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It's time for me to claim now. I'm Ian Bell - the doctor.
My PM says that I've saved the team on many occasions with my hundreds which gives me the protective ability.

Last night I was unsure whom to protect. I protected treva as he was the confirmed townie and a double-voter too.

Night 1 - Protect barmyarmy - Colin was the most active and a possible night 1 candidate to be killed.

Night 2 - Protect Papa_Smurf(blocked) - His claim was solid and noone counter-claimed it. I reckon, he was the only town power role claimed that time.

Night 3 - Protect Sedition - Sedition was giving town vibes for me and his aggression hinted the possibility of town power role

Night 4 - Protect treva

I'm not satisfied with the claim of Ste, if he was the bullet-proof, his play should have been different. With masons, a busdriver, 2 cops, tracker and a doctor, his role doesn't suit.

Here's the post.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

As a final thought you two would have more credibility going after me if I hadn't just accused both of you of being mafia.

at this point i'd like to tell everyone not to lynch thedon. If you believe colin then lynch me. My character is unambiguous - there is no way you could think i was anti-town when my character is shown. Thedon being notw reporter would be ambiguous.

If colin is going to argue that trott is likely mafia (when it seems pretty unlikely to me) he's going to just use the same thing to clear himself if thedon is lynched and shown as notw, but it'd be even easier as it's more likely notw is mafia than trott was.

 

[thedon5]

RPHKR is the other one I was thinking was Mafia, look back at it. That just confirms it for me, it's Colin as the roleblocker, RPHKR as the Godfather. This isn't just out of the blue as well, these two have been near the top of my list for a while and now I know they are a team.

He hasn't protected even ONE guy yet. That's either terrible doc play, or there's simply no doc at all. Again, he only claimed doc once me and Colin mentioned it. Colin was the first to mention it, I wonder why? They are a team, that's why.

 

[barmyarmy]

For the final time this isn't about characters and who is "most likely" to be mafia. None of the claims are "likely" to be mafia. It's about gameplay.

 

[thedon5]

I don't understand what you're saying here. Treva wasn't going to be lynched.



Explain how they are poor assumptions. They make perfect sense.

Hang on, if Thedon is telling the truth and he was indeed blocked, then the question that raises is, why didn't the mafia block RPHKR (doc)? Now, that's weird. Where is RPHKR anyway?

They didn't block him since he isn't doc, he is Mafia. Quite simple really.

Or, as Colin said. Perhaps they know he can't protect the same guy two days in a row, and went after me as the only cop in the game, as they knew they were killing of treva.

 

[barmyarmy]

He hasn't protected even ONE guy yet. That's either terrible doc play, or there's simply no doc at all. Again, he only claimed doc once me and Colin mentioned it. Colin was the first to mention it, I wonder why? They are a team, that's why.

Where did I mention Doc? Also you want to lynch off the one role that leaves the town with a chance of winning should we mis-lynch again?

Also based on Ste's logic why would Ian Bell be mafia?

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They didn't block him since he isn't doc, he is Mafia. Quite simple really.

Or, as Colin said. Perhaps they know he can't protect the same guy two days in a row, and went after me as the only cop in the game, as they knew they were killing of treva.

So you also think there's no doc in the game? I can't think of a single game we've played with no doc.
Anyway keep up the straw clutching. Who are you going to try and lynch off next? Adi as he's a mafia mason?

 

[thedon5]

For the final time this isn't about characters and who is "most likely" to be mafia. None of the claims are "likely" to be mafia. It's about gameplay.

Right, my gameplay has been town (evidenced by how no-one was suspicious of me prior to this), and yours has been Mafia (evidenced by how everyone was suspicious of him yesterday, especially treva who was clearly on to something, so was killed).

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Also based on Ste's logic why would Ian Bell be mafia?

he isn't established as ian bell yet is he? seeing as he is still alive and all that nonsense.

as you have said the mafia have been given fake claims (which i don't think has been mentioned as anything other than a possibility by anyone else, so the only way you could know for certain would be by being mafia) so he could just be claiming ian bell and actually be somebody else.

using your logic, that is

 

[barmyarmy]

Right, my gameplay has been town (evidenced by how no-one was suspicious of me prior to this), and yours has been Mafia (evidenced by how everyone was suspicious of him yesterday, especially treva who was clearly on to something, so was killed).

No-one was suspicious of you because of your claim. People were suspicious of me because I was trying to stay alive instead of help the town.
Treva was killed because he couldn't be protected.

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he isn't established as ian bell yet is he? seeing as he is still alive and all that nonsense.

as you have said the mafia have been given fake claims (which i don't think has been mentioned as anything other than a possibility by anyone else, so the only way you could know for certain would be by being mafia) so he could just be claiming ian bell and actually be somebody else.

using your logic, that is

We have an entire England cricket XI claimed. Either characters are irrelevant and random people are mafia or the mafia have fake claims.
It doesn't really matter either way as far as I can see.
The point is to focus on gameplay and accept that characters are just flavour.

 

[thedon5]

Where did I mention Doc? Also you want to lynch off the one role that leaves the town with a chance of winning should we mis-lynch again?

Also based on Ste's logic why would Ian Bell be mafia?

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So you also think there's no doc in the game? I can't think of a single game we've played with no doc.
Anyway keep up the straw clutching. Who are you going to try and lynch off next? Adi as he's a mafia mason?

You mentioned RPHKR, who claimed the doc, this wasn't in reply to you, it was a general statement t everyone about RPHKR.

Well, this game is different to previous PD games, we've never had a theme, a mason or minimal write-ups.

In reply to the last paragraph, no, you are clutching at straws by making such a reply. I've said before, there is at least two Mafia between you, RPHKR and BKB, it makes complete sense that it's you and Colin, the whole story fits together with the roleblocker and all. Stop making things up about my posts.

I don't want to just lynch off the doc, I want to lynch off a guy who I 100% believe is Mafia, and not the doc at all, RPHKR. I have to go for you first though.

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No-one was suspicious of you because of your claim. People were suspicious of me because I was trying to stay alive instead of help the town.
Treva was killed because he couldn't be protected.

Erm, no, don't try and twist it that way when talking about me, no-one was suspicious of me because of my gameplay.

Your gameplay was poor and clearly Mafia, hence why people wanted to go after you.

About treva, it's a possibility. But you know exactly why, since you helped make the decision!

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Anyway keep up the straw clutching. Who are you going to try and lynch off next? Adi as he's a mafia mason?

Who are you going to try lynch off next? Ste since he is the Mafia bulletproof?

 

[barmyarmy]

Well I'm glad you solved the difficulty of who my mafia partner is cos you were struggling before when only you and ste were the viable candidates.

What have I "made up" about your posts?

 

[ste_mc_efc]

No-one was suspicious of you because of your claim. People were suspicious of me because I was trying to stay alive instead of help the town.
Treva was killed because he couldn't be protected.

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We have an entire England cricket XI claimed. Either characters are irrelevant and random people are mafia or the mafia have fake claims.
It doesn't really matter either way as far as I can see.
The point is to focus on gameplay and accept that characters are just flavour.

well based on gameplay why as mafia would i kill off treva when besides the don he was the only person who didn't voice strong doubts over me? especially when he has two votes that would really help save me?

it would be terrible of me to get him night killed as it makes the dayphase a lot harder.

 

[barmyarmy]

well based on gameplay why as mafia would i kill off treva when besides the don he was the only person who didn't voice strong doubts over me? especially when he has two votes that would really help save me?

Because you had to kill a confirmed townie and he was the one who was guaranteed not to be protected.

 

[ved_]

I believe puddleduck has randomly assigned mafia, which makes character claims useless, and essentially tweaking up the whole game.

Still waiting to hear from RPHKR and BKB1991.