Surprising the Pro-Read campaigners aren't already banging on about this but Jones has become a decent keeper who can't bat! He doesn't really drop any dollies or any stumpings (recently anyway). However, he hasn't really scored for the last year or so. His performance in the Ashes (apart from a couple of decent 50s), subcontinent and here has been quite poor really. If he doesn't score much in this series, Read should be given a chance.
Sri Lanka in England/Netherlands
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puddleduck
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I don't know how recently you want to go Adarsh. If you are talking about this test then yes he has performed pretty well with the gloves apart from missing a difficult chance of Panesar in the first innings that he got his gloves to but nowhere near the middle of the gloves.
In India he missed a stumping, and dropped 2, maybe 3, catches off the spinners.
Can't really get much more recent than that
In India he missed a stumping, and dropped 2, maybe 3, catches off the spinners.
Can't really get much more recent than that
BigCrickNan
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Jones hasn't done a lot bad with the gloves lately. I think we should stick with him because he will get better as his keeping and batting are improving. He is the fastest English keeper to take 100 catches and has never got a duck in test cricket.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Drewska said:
The fastest English keeper to 100 catches is very misleading. With our current pace attack, someone like Jack Russell, Alan Knott, even Alec Stewart would all have gotten there quicker (speculation I know). The fact that they were all better glovemen than Jones makes it reasonably likely that they would have done.
The never having gotten a duck in test cricket is also a pretty useless figure. I would rather a batsman with 10 ducks and an average of 35, then a batsman with no ducks and an average of 29.
The hard facts are that with the bat he hasn't produced anywhere near enough for England and struggles unless the ball is outside his off-stump. With the gloves he has been pretty sloppy, with today being a rare good day.
End of the day we should not be satisfied that Englands "international class wicket keeper" finally takes a regulation stumping, or holds onto the simple bread and butter knicks off the quicks. He should be making those and taking those nearly all the time, and dropping the odd catch now and then that could be ranked difficult. Fortunately for Jones I do not see Fletcher changing the guard anytime soon.
BigCrickNan
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puddleduck said:
Ever since the Ashes a bad day has been rare. In Pakistan and India who was almost perfect. In these first two tests he hasn't done a lot wrong with the gloves. Once he gets his batting together he will be worth a lot more than Read.
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Gilchrist
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Damn! Fox Sports aren't showing this day, why?! I don't know, they showed all the days prior to this...Vandort has his hundred...well played.
James219
International Cricketer
Well, Plunkett and Flintoff have succesfully wrapped up Sri Lankan's innings with a surge of lower order wickets; good to see England finally finishing off a tail with relative success. As a point of interest, how's Flintoff's pace been going? I heard it hasn't been as decent as it was last winter, or summer over there, which is understandable due to the tiresome tour of India and the added burden of captaincy, which is no light thing to manage. The target of 78 should be a very simple chase, as long as they go about their game with a fairly natural approach and ignore the whole sense of 'pursuit'- when a team starts thinking about how many runs they need to get, despite how small SL's lead actually is, and what obstacles will obstruct them, problems will begin to arise. Top stuff from Vandort, he's responded to the opening call very well with this responsible knock. He looked like a meticulous sort of player when he was over here for the VB series, not overly destructive, but capable of grinding down an attack and accumulating.
EDIT: Strauss starts proceedings with a boundary....
From what I've read in the FTA Sydney tv guide, they're continuing coverage for the last day. That's obviously not gonna happen now, though....
EDIT: Strauss starts proceedings with a boundary....
Gilchrist said:
From what I've read in the FTA Sydney tv guide, they're continuing coverage for the last day. That's obviously not gonna happen now, though....
hondeyho
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England will win this one after Lunch, (weather permitting of course), but it was important that they wrapped Sri Lanka's innings up before Lunch - because the weather forecast tommorow is set for showers all day, (very little play in other words), and they would of wanted:
Sri Lanka all out before Lunch - check
Need less than 100 to win - check
Have an opening partnership of 50, (well there goes Trescothick)
But I don't think that Murali's magic can stop England here.
Sri Lanka all out before Lunch - check
Need less than 100 to win - check
Have an opening partnership of 50, (well there goes Trescothick)
But I don't think that Murali's magic can stop England here.
wolf
International Cricketer
21-1 at lunch. Would like to see us wrap it up quickly and without fuss.
wolf
International Cricketer
England win! 
evertonfan
Chairman of Selectors
Yay!! I can stop moaning now!
BigCrickNan
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Adarsh said:
Well if England wanted a keeper who could bat how come Trescothick didn't stay on as keeper?
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Drewska said:
That's just not true mate.. Were you watching the same matches I was??
I have been through this a few times. In Pakistan I will accept that he was flawless with the gloves, but then those pitches were so placid and lifeless that there was hardly any deviation with the ball so any take was relatively simple.
In India he was mediocre at best. He missed two stumpings, one of which led to a match winning partnership for India. He dropped 3 catches, it may have been more I can't remember now, 2 of which led to key partnerships for India.
In the first test here he dropped two more catches and missed a stumping.
And in this test, whilst a difficult chance he still dropped one catch of Monty.
That makes something like 6 dropped catches, possible more, and 2 missed stumpings in his last 1 and half series, how is that performing almost perfectly?
For someone who is supposed to be playing in international cricket as an international class keeper, that is if anything appaling. We won't even mention the fact that with the bat on all 3 of these tours he has effectively failed as well
