End Game Star Wars Mafia - End Mafia(Surendar) & Third Party (Fake Passport) Won

[RUDI]

Yes, however if a member of the mafia can be uncovered and lynched, the town then have a big advantage. How else are going to remove the mafia?

Loosing our PR just to maybe get one goon is somewhat like offering Chuck Norris up at this stage... we do not even know the odds at the moment. Not a good move at this stage of the game ...
By suggesting this you do look suspicious...

 

[zwarrior]

Lot of murmurs" & "shot didnt reach target" sounds to me as escape clause than saving clause. May be I am thinking too much

What I feel is, "Lot of murmurs" means, maybe there is some 3rd party involved like serial killer or mimes?
"shot didnt reach target" means mafia or sk shot at someone, but it didn't reach target as doc protected / roleblocker blocked someone.

Also while writing this, I got some theory. Maybe there is no serial killer ? Because there was no kill on night. So, if there are both mafias and sk, atleast one kill should have happened. And it will be a huge coincidence that both sk and mafia kills were blocked or they both targeted the same person.

 

[Fake Passport]

Claiming isn't the right play ATM I don't think. Even if everyone did, would we necessarily believe it? If it was an open setup and we knew there was a doc/cop combo or something like that then perhaps, but we are essentially in Day 1.

First vote of the day, likely change but putting money whetey mouth is so to speak...
Lynch - CaptainCremer

At the very least you should have claimed something, what you've done is either soft claimed vanilla/3rd party or scum...[DOUBLEPOST=1499919724][/DOUBLEPOST]Re - Vanilla/3rd Party or scum. Maybe showing my age here, but as Meatloaf says. 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

 

[CremerCurrans]

Ok look, assume that all posts their investigation results, then atmost one mafia could be identified. (i.e, with help of - doc protecting someone and role blocker blocking someone), what about others ? How do we know how many mafias are there in this setup ? I am pretty sure for a 12/13 people setup, there won't be just 1 mafia.

We won't know how many mafia are left, but the town will have a significant advantage.

Maybe I am trying to move the game ahead too fast, but at least the discussion is moving. I can't see another way of uncovering members of the mafia, considering we have very little clues.

 

[Fake Passport]

@CaptainCremer - Who's on your scum radar? It's early, but who do you have an off feeling about?[DOUBLEPOST=1499921570][/DOUBLEPOST]And if you want to roleclaim too it would lend credibility to your argument...

 

[CremerCurrans]

Loosing our PR just to maybe get one goon is somewhat like offering Chuck Norris up at this stage... we do not even know the odds at the moment. Not a good move at this stage of the game ...
By suggesting this you do look suspicious...

I'm not asking all members with power roles to role claim. I'm just encouraging people to give information that will help uncover a definite member of the mafia. If not we are we are stuck waiting for now.

 

[CremerCurrans]

@CaptainCremer - Who's on your scum radar? It's early, but who do you have an off feeling about?[DOUBLEPOST=1499921570][/DOUBLEPOST]And if you want to roleclaim too it would lend credibility to your argument...

I was suspicious of Villain during day one, considering he was not willing to add to the conversation, and showed signs of wanting the day to end.

I haven't noticed anything suspicious during day 2.

I'm not going to role claim. All I'm going to say is that I'm helping the town.

 

[Fake Passport]

I'm not going to role claim. All I'm going to say is that I'm helping the town.

Interesting - but Im going to leave this line of questioning here...
Normally I try to have read lists going, but too often I've found myself finding the prolific posters more scummy than the silent ninja types. So trying to move on from Cremer and get other things going..

I want to put pressure on @PresidentEvil who is very quiet by his own standards.
PE, you've been really quiet, yet happily posting OT stuff, perhaps to increase your visibility? Scum reads? What do you think of Rudis analysis here? What do you think of the Cremer 'claimgate'?

@MrsPacman - Post something!

 

[Villain]

Write-up isn't long but pretty clear and on point. It's pretty much the mafias tried to kill but got role blocked/doc saved the target. I haven't played a single game where the mafias did not have a power to kill, would be very rare if they went for a NK on night 1. If they didn't kill then maybe we have a Vigilante/third party SK who tried to kill. Either way one of them went for the kill as the write-up says 'shot was fired'.

Even if the mafias went for a kill that doesn't mean we don't have a third party, maybe a one shot killer?

 

[Villain]

At this point we really need someone with a investigative or protective role to tell us what they did last night, so we can get a proper discussion going.

Don't be afraid, the sooner we lynch off a mafia, the more interesting this game will get.

That's too scummy to ask the Cop to claim at this stage but again which mafia would ask for the Cop to claim? I'll wait for what others think and have a decision.

If you're suggesting it being town: only way it could work is if we have a Doc in the game which we are clearly unsure about. And it would make sense only if he got a scum, if he got someone as a townie that is of no use as it clears 1/12.

 

[CremerCurrans]

Even if the mafias went for a kill that doesn't mean we don't have a third party, maybe a one shot killer?

Which third party role has one shot killer?[DOUBLEPOST=1499925291][/DOUBLEPOST](Which third party role has) *a (one shot killer?)

 

[Villain]

Which third party role has one shot killer?[DOUBLEPOST=1499925291][/DOUBLEPOST](Which third party role has) *a (one shot killer?)

Serial killer?

 

[CremerCurrans]

Serial killer?

Maybe; on second nights.

 

[Villain]

Maybe; on second nights.

Yes.

Actually, what I meant by my post was there's still a possibility of having a one shot town/third party killer in the game.

 

[Fake Passport]

Pretty much anything can be X shot restricted...