End Game Star Wars Mafia - End Mafia(Surendar) & Third Party (Fake Passport) Won

[Varun]

I don't get it. Are you claiming VT or not? If yes, then your point applies to yourself as well? That it's easiest role to fake claim.

CaptainCremer is town because he said that a VT would be a generic character, without any provocation to reveal so whatsoever. Since I'm also one, I agreed. Rudolph didn't make it clear that his role was a generic character, and you tried to use it against the both of us, and later claimed that you're a VT too. If you are, then it makes sense to at least discuss now why your character wouldn't be generic while other VTs clearly are as revealed by Rudolph's death.

And it's impossible to go back and read on specific statements. If you know for sure what you're asking me to read, then quote it too.

 

[El Loco]

Varun doesn't need to 'lean on' anybody to target you. I'm sure he independently took you up on your gameplay, before I did as a matter of fact.
I had a hunch that Rudolph was town only after you started warming to him, initially I wasn't even taking into account his posts with regards to my overall view of the state of play but you changed that when you started supporting him on the basis of something so feeble that I'm surprised more people haven't pulled the rug from under your feet till now.

What?

He's obviously trying legitimise his claim in a bizarre way.
@surendar I'd say the reason you didn't mention a character 'name'/tag/alias/description/whatever is because you simply don't have one.

Does pee me off that Rudolph felt the need to c+p in his entire Role PM, especially because he more or less wholly contributed to his own undoing. But I am a believer in that only gameplay and gameplay alone should be what lets you off the hook. It's not fair on others otherwise.

 

[surendar]

Guys I don't need to be defending this much spending time like mafia to be frank - I am now consciously making my claim for the first time.

I am VT, security chief at the base. Since its likely now @CaptainCremer will fall in line with @Varun taking my lynch forward using El Loco, I feel it's time for me to reveal who I am.

Back to my point - these common names can be easily derived. I won't clear a person on common name as town which Varun was trying to do.

To support my claim, this was my first post of Day 1 related to Day 1's context after JR asked us to proceed.

Watching sun, moon, star, mars, Jupiter, Pluto. Eating cookies, ice cream.. Yawn! Yeah talking something.

Watching - Main job of a security! I did made that post on purpose, trying to see if anyone gets it as am not sure how many security guards are there in the base. That has been my point "Security guard or chief" is too generic enough common character to clear one person as town.

 

[surendar]

@surendar I'd say the reason you didn't mention a character 'name'/tag/alias/description/whatever is because you simply don't have one.

Nope, I didn't have the need to reveal my common character name until now. why should I(before)? Just because I respected your view, it doesn't mean whatever you say can be true.

 

[El Loco]

If anyone believes the above claim is sincere, please categorically say so.

 

[surendar]

I never even thought that situation would come that people are going to judge town or not town based on a common character name you have been given.

 

[El Loco]

I never even thought that situation would come that people are going to judge town or not town based on a common character name you have been given.

Except you know that's not the full story.
Fair play though, props for having the quick the thinking to dig out an old post and relate it to your hastily put together claim, but it won't cut it this time, sorry.

 

[surendar]

Except you know that's not the full story.
Fair play though, props for having the quick the thinking to dig out an old post and relate it to your hastily put together claim, but it won't cut it this time, sorry.

Lol okay, like I said I don't even have to defend spending this much time. That claim is what it is. Believe it or don't believe it, I don't care.

 

[Fake Passport]

This is interesting, I never knew there were adjustments to roles with PMs resent. If that's the case, JR would have asked to reconfirm? Like how Simon did in last game?

Well yea, my win condition keeps changing, with the mod kill I'm up to my 3rd or 4th now, plus like you never saw wifey have to confirm role received..[DOUBLEPOST=1500163083][/DOUBLEPOST]

 

[El Loco]

Well yea, my win condition keeps changing, with the mod kill I'm up to my 3rd or 4th now, plus like you never saw wifey have to confirm role received..[DOUBLEPOST=1500163083][/DOUBLEPOST]

Your thoughts on the dialogue regarding Surendar, perhaps?

 

[Fake Passport]

@Jack Ryder - You are killing me!
I played that game so well to the point that I got the guy to violate the rules to prevent him being lynched. Surely I can claim that for a win?

My role was that of (and trying to paraprhase here) Debt collector. The canon of the role PM was that I was collecting a debt owed by Rudi, but when shit was starting to go down I was to have him lynched as a warning to others not to screw with my boss.[DOUBLEPOST=1500163919][/DOUBLEPOST]So I was a 3rd party, self aligned. I had asked JR what to do if that (Rudi lynch) happened as id be able to play with whatever ending in mind.
But - JR has changed my win condition.

@Jack Ryder - Will you confirm the roleclaim for my previous role so I don't look completely crazy to everyone?

 

[Fake Passport]

Lynch MrsPacman

Kinda personal read. She hasnt been around much, but she is fluent in mobile browsing with a largish screen. She also knows that in my championship game I went after a 0 poster who I suspected, based on reading everyone else to be mafia. In that game the town cut the 0 poster some slack as there mod rules meant replacement. Replacement ended up playing the res of the game being 'I cant catch up' and romped the mafia home.

Plus her language is really weird.

 

[Fake Passport]

However, if you flip anything that is not town aligned, either verbatim or through weird powers, I will offer an unconditional apology here in the thread. If the flip is really weird/impacts others play or I'm killed overnight then it may have to wait to after the game ends to preserve it for others, but substantially yes.

I stick to my word.
I offer unconditional apology to Rudolph for the game.
It was however, in my role PM to have you lynched, I'm not putting a condition on the apology, just some context

 

[surendar]

Lynch MrsPacman

Kinda personal read. She hasnt been around much, but she is fluent in mobile browsing with a largish screen.

Actually only few people are talking actively and majority of them are in unbelievable silence without taking the game forward. Now with Rudolph gone, activity is down by 1. He was one among few active here.

 

[surendar]

Well yea, my win condition keeps changing, with the mod kill I'm up to my 3rd or 4th now, plus like you never saw wifey have to confirm role received..[DOUBLEPOST=1500163083][/DOUBLEPOST]

If that is true, @Jack Ryder - I definitely wouldn't recommend that way in a closed set up. Conditions should have been static and possible if and else conditions would need to be fixed before day 1.

Can you confirm this dynamic win conditions rule changing in background?