Zimbabwe Tour of West Indies 2010

[Dare]

Probably he was expecting some pace bowling. . There you go, firework stars. I thought Zee sports sucks but it is awesome. 5 overs without a comersial break.

He has to pay for that window now. Barath just needs to take singles, just getting bogged down.

 

[MUFC1987]

What on earth are you talking about? The West Indies should be concerned because they failed to take wickets, allowed Zimbabwe to build; albeit slowly; and post a total that based on recent form and local conditions, will actually challenge them.

The West Indies shouldn't be concerned because Zimbabwe suck, they should be concerned because they suck. If they were happy with 1/120 after 30 overs, then they should not have been. Their attack sorely needs wicket takers.

So West Indies suck apparently? Because they missed a heap of players and got beaten in Australia? Let's be realistic here, they kept Zimbabwe to a par total, on a decent pitch which is offering nothing apart from a bit of spin.

If West Indies were playing India, we'd all be saying how brilliant it was to keep them to 250 and that they'd chase it down. I don't see why that should change just because they're playing Zimbabwe.

And again, West Indies are setting out to win, whether that means taking 10 wickets and restricting them to 180 or letting them score 300 and then chasing it down, a win is all that matters.

 

[vaibhav mehta]

Ya he would not mind paying for more windows. Needless throw, really. Spinners are bowling some quick overs here. WI have to look at require rate every now and then. 9 overs being bowled within 21 minutes.

 

[Dare]

I don't see why that should change just because they're playing Zimbabwe.

Tendulkar/Masakadza
Sehwag/Sibanda
Gambhir/Taibu
Dhoni/Taylor
Kohli/Chigumbura

See the difference?

 

[MUFC1987]

Tendulkar/Masakadza
Sehwag/Sibanda
Gambhir/Taibu
Dhoni/Taylor
Kohli/Chigumbura

See the difference?

You're missing the point. If we go by your theory, then the India team will ALWAYS outscore the Zimbabwe team e.g. Tendulkar will ALWAYS score more than Masakadza. Cricket doesn't work like that. Both sets of players are more than capable of getting big scores, sure India do it a lot more consistently, but that doesn't mean that Zimbabwe aren't capable. See Taibu scoring a ton against South Africa recently for reference.

 

[Dare]

You're missing the point. If we go by your theory, then the India team will ALWAYS outscore the Zimbabwe team. Both players are more than capable of getting big scores, sure India do it a lot more consistently, but that doesn't mean that Zimbabwe aren't capable. See Taibu scoring a ton against South Africa recently for reference.

I don't think you see the obvious. Restricting India to 250 and letting Zimbabwe get 250 are two different things.
Like Angy said there should be a worry for the WI if they cant bowl out Zimbabwe when they are making 250. They don't make these scores against Bangladesh.

 

[vaibhav mehta]

Tendulkar/Masakadza


See the difference?

Nah, they are nearly equal. .
Gayle has beaten by flight couple of times now. He has to be more carefull while he drives. Looks like ball is stopping on the wicket.

 

[MUFC1987]

They made 250 against South Africa, but did it concern South Africa? No, because they still won the game comfortably. This is my point. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how many teams score, just who wins. Sure you might roll Zimbabwe over for 100 on a seaming pitch, but they have players who are capable of getting their heads down and scoring, just like today. If WIndies chase this down in 40 overs, then they would have kept Zimbabwe well under par, but that's not good enough apparently? That's crazy. It's not always easy to get teams out, no matter how bad you think they are. Show some respect to these guys.

 

[Dare]

Nah, they are nearly equal. .

Almost, I wouldn't go that far. Tendulkar still has a few things to lern

Dare added 3 Minutes and 1 Seconds later...

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how many teams score

Thats what matters the most, the less a team scores the easier it is to chase. In case you didn't notice this isn't a easy wicket to chase on.
If the WI end up losing today the fact that the WI couldn't bowl Zimbabwe out will be a big deal.

 

[MUFC1987]

As big a deal as a team batting down to 8 not being able to chase 250 on this pitch? Hmm, not so sure on that one.

 

[Dare]

As big a deal as a team batting down to 8 not being able to chase 250 on this pitch? Hmm, not so sure on that one.

Does it look like they are having a easy time out there. They batted down to #8 in the 20/20 and ran out of overs, in a 20/20.

 

[MUFC1987]

They're not exactly having the ball zip past the outside edge either though. It's a cautious start, probably because they're smart enough to realise that it's the two best bowlers on.

One major difference in the two games might also be the bloke at the top of the order playing in this one.

 

[Dare]

They're not exactly having the ball zip past the outside edge either though. It's a cautious start, probably because they're smart enough to realise that it's the two best bowlers on.

Now that pace is on they might have a easier time. Zimbabwe packed the team with spinners for a reason.

 

[MUFC1987]

That kind of backs up my point though. WIndies know it's going to be harder against the better bowlers, so they took it easy so they could cash in later, rather than showing some arrogance and thinking that they can take apart any of the bowlers. You still need a game plan, no matter how good or bad you think the opposition is.

 

[Dare]

The problem with this team is the bowling tho. Without Taylor, Edwards and Bravo there arent strike bowlers that can bundle out a team like Zimbabwe. Thats the issue. On a wicket like this there is no way Zimbabwe should be making 250/5 or whatever they made. Not against a full member.