10 Greatest Test Spin Bowlers of all time (Multple Selection Options Available)

[Aoun13]

You all are just considering averages only but they are lots of thing which are far most important then mere averages like Abdul Qadir was one who invented Guggly and at his time no body can even pick him at all.He was the biggest turner of all with good and neat pace and even Murali and Warne have got lots of tips from Qadir.
Saqlain Mushtaq was one who got fastest 50,100,150,200 wickets of all time,a legendery bowler,inventor of Dusra and the best off spinner of all time.

 

[Robborocksdad]

A big thankyou to send2yaari for his unbiased view of cricket history!!! Now we know who actually invented the googly!!! Quadir is in my list for his impact within his own era, not for his figures.Same with Gibbs. Bedi is in for his artistry, rather than his figures. As a chess historian I know that all these comparisons need to put players into there own era and circumstances, with extra weight for contributing to how the game develops, winning matches, etc. (Incidental note - Rhodes devloped a form of doosra near the end of his career, and, off the top of my head, Jack Iverson probably 'invented' the doosra .)
Alf Valentine and Bobby Peel were the 2 quickest spinners to 50 wickets.

 

[Aoun13]

Its basically the worst attitude that always been shown by non-subcontinental teams,they always consider them to be the founder of every thing.How you can say that man other then Qadir has develop Guggly.Saqlain has introduce dusra if rhodes knows it then why he never bowl it and why dusra is always known as dusra not some thing in English.As many people plagiarized in Downloading section in the forum,there are some who plagiarized facts.Who took quickest landmarks are all facts and can be seen on any site.If he will not be the quickest one then he will be one of the quickest one.

 

[robin2855]

All about Googly, Doosra and Teesra

You all are just considering averages only but they are lots of thing which are far most important then mere averages like Abdul Qadir was one who invented Guggly and at his time no body can even pick him at all.He was the biggest turner of all with good and neat pace and even Murali and Warne have got lots of tips from Qadir.
Saqlain Mushtaq was one who got fastest 50,100,150,200 wickets of all time,a legendery bowler,inventor of Dusra and the best off spinner of all time.

I appreciate your inputs on Qadir and Saqlain which are true except for the fact that Abdu Qadir is not the inventor of Googly.

The inventor of googly is Bernard Bosanquet who played only for 2 years (1903 - 1905).

Bernard Bosanquet

Bernard Bosanquet Test Matches :7 (Wickets : 25, Ave : 24.16 SR 38.8, 5W: 2, 10W

Off course he cannot be considered amongst the 10 best spinners of all time(LOL!).

You can verify by this by either typing googly in Google which will link you to google defined in Wikipedia.

Or

Typing Bernard Bosanquet in Search cricinfo box at the right hand side of cricinfo home page which will load player profile of Bernard Bosanquet and confirm the fact that he is the legitimate inventor of googly.

However you are absolutely right in your claim that Saqlain is the legitmate inventor of Doosra .Not only that I would also like to add one more piece of information that I was not aware of before and that is : Saqlain is the legitimate inventor of Teesra as well .

BTW mate you might want to do a spell-check before you post.

The word is Googly and not Guggly as you have written.

Similarly the word is Doosra and not dusra as you have written.

Hints for Spell-check.

All you have to do is type the word in google. It will come out with the right spelling.

Or type mushtaq last name in cricinfo search. It will come up with bowlers with last name mushtaq.

Choose Saqlain in the player profile. You will get the exact spelling of the word you have doubt or not sure.

Normal spell-check in Word may not identify this.

Having said that all your inputs are appreciated.

Hope this helps.

 

[Robborocksdad]

oh No!!1 Despite having been best man at a pakistani wedding, I'm no doubt going to be accused of racism next!!!!!
Rhodes was experimenting with a ball called 'the one that goes the other way' at the end of his career. He bowled Woodfall with it in the 5th test of the 1926 series. It certainly wasnt what we would now call a doosra, which is a stock delivery bowled at will. It's kind of like a bemused Larwood explaining to Jardine, that the ball was 'swinging the wrong way' in one match - does'nt mean that he invented reverse swing, or that anyone doesnt want to give a bowler from the subcontinent credit!!!
Saqlain - got to 50 wickets in his 13th test. 80 bowlers were quicker, including half a dozen from Pakistan, which clears that one up, hopefully. Please stop taking everything as a personal or racial attack. Thankyou!

 

[Aoun13]

The present form of Googly has been invented by Qadir because the Googly that was been invented by Bernard Bosanquet was not really the true Googly from what we Know as Googly.
well thanks for spelling but there is nothing to do with the spell of these words

 

[King Cricket]

Saqlain is the legitimate inventor of Teesra as well .

What is this "teesra"?

 

[Aoun13]

Teesra is another type of surprise delivery beside Doosra.

 

[King Cricket]

Now, this is interesting. I didn't know this before

It's interesting to note that in the Edwardian days of Bosanquet, the googly was deemed as cheating and even the leading batsmen of that era, like Arthur Shrewsbury, wanted it banned. Bosanquet had quipped, 'Not unfair chaps, just immoral'. And years later, in the days of Qadir, it was treated as subcontinental wizadry. For the English, Qadir was an exotic oriental mystery and their media spun out exotic visions with the magic and wizardry likened to witchcraft. The curious oriental was back in the public imagination, and the fact that Qadir was a preacher's son added to the charm

Source: The googly men from Pakistan | Cricket Features | Global | Cricinfo.com


Qadir didn't invent Googly. He simply "revived" this type of a delivery.

 

[robin2855]

Now, this is interesting. I didn't know this before



Source: The googly men from Pakistan | Cricket Features | Global | Cricinfo.com


Qadir didn't invent Googly. He simply "revived" this type of a delivery.

According to Criciinfo and wikipedia two authentic sources:

The inventor of googly is Bernard Bosanquet who played only for 2 years (1903 - 1905).

Qadir was a master in googly and nobody else could bowl googly and other variety of legspin as him during his time.

A genius legspinner.

Like Wasim in swing bowling, his Legspin including the googly was very difficult to read by the best in the batting business and had no option but to surrender to his spin magic.

robin2855 added 26 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...

What is this "teesra"?

First and Foremost Saqlain Mushtaq is the legitimate inventor of Teesra.

The term comes from the Urdu and Hindi word which means 'the third one'.

A Teesra is an off spinners equivalent of a leg spinners top spinner delivery.

It is similar to an off break googly(doosra) but extracts extra bounce resulting from the forward spin or top spin on the ball which propels it to travel faster and bounce higher.

Below is a typical example of Saqlains? Success story of a Teesra delivery.

The scenario: Tour Match match Sussex vs. Indians in July 2007.

Saqlain unleashes his famous Teesra and VVS Laxman on 95 succumbs and India can?t absorb any more Saqlain?s ? Teesras (LOL!) and makes the declaration.

Hope this helps.

 

[Aoun13]

well we have made this thread with full of information,its great.

 

[McLOVIN]

Md. Rafique !!~

 

[Michaelf7777777]

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[Fluroescent]

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[King Cricket]

^ I am really sorry, but a list without Kumble, Mushtaq, Qadir, Bedi, Chandra Sekhar etc makes no sense at all. Ridiculous list! You have not included a single Asian! Why?