3rd Test: England v Australia at Old Trafford Aug 1-5, 2013

[MattW]

I suppose the better example would be when India tours and they don't use DRS, the stations are just used to providing that to the viewers by now, so it doesn't disappear just because the board isn't funding it.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

Easy. Umpires give decisions and the play carries on, but the third umpire looks at them automatically and overturns them if necessary. Maybe a couple of balls have been bowled after that have to be nullified or the batsman has walked off the ground, who cares? The decision is correct. And none of this "umpire's call" rubbish. This is the best possible system. If people complain about having to nullify a ball or two, watch ice hockey. If a ball rebounds off the post they'll often check on the video to see if it actually just went in the goals, but only after the play stops. That could be 5-8 minutes later, all of which is nullified if it actually was a goal. A bit annoying perhaps but you get the right decision.

I actually agree with this but definitely not in a way that it would turn into that crazy scenario. A team has to appeal for an out, so you're not going to get a scenario where a batsman is happily going along and then told "oh wait, you were out 4 balls ago."

An appeal just needs to be looked at by the third umpire, if it's tricky he signals to the on-field umpire to give him 2-3 minutes and he uses the technology to get the right answer.

The idea that it takes ages to achieve these results is mad, I mean, how often do we see an appeal and it takes less than 20 seconds to have a hot spot view of it? just for some reason people insist on playing it back a million times before saying "yes, there is some white there." or "nope, no hot spot there."

I think people just want an end to silly decisions. how long would it have take to figure broad was out in the first test (it was the first one yeah?) 5 minutes of horrible disruptive decision making or 3 seconds to see what was blindingly obvious? they just need confidence in it.

 

[Umair7]

England=no review left Rogers played a great innings lets hope Clarke score a 100 today and it will be interesting to see Warner at 6

 

[MasterBlaster76]

That was an absolute shocker by the umpire! LBWs don't come any more plumb than that.

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I actually agree with this but definitely not in a way that it would turn into that crazy scenario. A team has to appeal for an out, so you're not going to get a scenario where a batsman is happily going along and then told "oh wait, you were out 4 balls ago."

An appeal just needs to be looked at by the third umpire, if it's tricky he signals to the on-field umpire to give him 2-3 minutes and he uses the technology to get the right answer.

The idea that it takes ages to achieve these results is mad, I mean, how often do we see an appeal and it takes less than 20 seconds to have a hot spot view of it? just for some reason people insist on playing it back a million times before saying "yes, there is some white there." or "nope, no hot spot there."

I think people just want an end to silly decisions. how long would it have take to figure broad was out in the first test (it was the first one yeah?) 5 minutes of horrible disruptive decision making or 3 seconds to see what was blindingly obvious? they just need confidence in it.

To follow on from that, why isn't Snicko used by the Third Umpire? For me, it's more conclusive than 'Hot Spot'.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

it takes a long time to synch up the audio properly so it isn't convenient enough.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

it takes a long time to synch up the audio properly so it isn't convenient enough.

Shame, because a clear spike on Snicko is far more conclusive than a minuscule and faint pixel on Hot Spot.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Shame, because a clear spike on Snicko is far more conclusive than a minuscule and faint pixel on Hot Spot.

I think the idea of hotspot is fine, as it shows contact and it can't be anything else. Whereas occasionally random noises (bat handles creaking is the main one, apparently) can show up on snicko.

But the technology isn't precise enough. definite edges sometimes don't show at all

 

[barmyarmy]

They're meant to be speeding it up.

Haven't been in but seems like Swann missed out on an lbw cos England were robbed of their reviews.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

They're meant to be speeding it up.

Haven't been in but seems like Swann missed out on an lbw cos England were robbed of their reviews.

Smith was out to one of the plumbest LBWs ever. A genuine howler. was off broad not swann though.

 

[Umair7]

So Clarke scored a hundred and is being supported well by Smith and yeah New Ball also Taken

 

[Cricketman]

Just tuned in to catch the end of day's play. Happy to see Aus put up a fight. But why is Starc in the XI and not Bird?!

 

[Simbazz]

Brilliant day for Australia today which has been spearheaded by their captain. Its been a decent day, but at the minute it's a batters wicket, there should be no reason why this wasn't doable.

One thing I will say is that people should hold off of the superlatives of Clarke's hundred until the end of the series. At the minute he's a man who's under no pressure to perform. If Australia lost, well thats to be expected. If Australia win the series, well Clarke is the hero.

I'd like to see how the rest of the test matches go, I'm especially eager for Australia to continue batting to make sure day 5 happens!

 

[whiteninness]

I actually agree with this but definitely not in a way that it would turn into that crazy scenario. A team has to appeal for an out, so you're not going to get a scenario where a batsman is happily going along and then told "oh wait, you were out 4 balls ago."

An appeal just needs to be looked at by the third umpire, if it's tricky he signals to the on-field umpire to give him 2-3 minutes and he uses the technology to get the right answer.

The idea that it takes ages to achieve these results is mad, I mean, how often do we see an appeal and it takes less than 20 seconds to have a hot spot view of it? just for some reason people insist on playing it back a million times before saying "yes, there is some white there." or "nope, no hot spot there."

I think people just want an end to silly decisions. how long would it have take to figure broad was out in the first test (it was the first one yeah?) 5 minutes of horrible disruptive decision making or 3 seconds to see what was blindingly obvious? they just need confidence in it.

Yeah of course there would have to be an official appeal. The system I've suggested would need tinkering and getting used to but I think it's correct. For LBWs you don't need this whole dramatic build-up with layers of animations, just give the decision immediately. You can show all the "drama" later for TV if you want.

Also none of this differing margins based on what the on field umpire said. Have a set margin and if it's hitting the stump and pitching in line within this margin, it's out. One could argue that no margin is needed for pitching in line since that's essentially an exact position, not an extrapolated one.

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Smith was out to one of the plumbest LBWs ever. A genuine howler. was off broad not swann though.

Broad deserves a bit of karma

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Broad deserves a bit of karma

beyond that though it has been our favour so far, can't really moan when the pendulum of fate swings away a little bit.

 

[Umair7]

Just tuned in to catch the end of day's play. Happy to see Aus put up a fight. But why is Starc in the XI and not Bird?!

Because the selectors were drunk. For me At the Moment Bird > Starc

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80/5 at lunch
Warner at 6 is interesting. I guess they didn't want to move Rogers or Watson.

So what were you saying