Asia Cup 2010 - Sri Lanka

not going to reply to this.:facepalm
I would just say, I do not agree with both of your points.
Its upto you, but what I spoke is the thing with some sense, rather than just boast up favorite player even if he's unable to play:yes. Its his time to retire, after the downfall he had in 2005-06 belt. He had a great comeback and got a double ton. I still respect him, but I think its time for him. Everyone has a time, where they have to retire. Blind fans like you just want your stars even after they die. Even I respect tendulkar, and as a well wisher, I say its his time.
And regarding the Indian bowling, you HAVE to accept a truth that "A Player cannot be rated on T20 performance". If you do it, you're a cricketing fan. If not, you are, not just fail, Epic Fail:yes.
You;re rating Indian bowling as poor one by seeing T20 World cup and IPL as standard. I do agree that India doesn't have good bowling, but its not soooooo poor what you're thinking. A team cannot be No. 1 Test team without bowling.
Still, Tiwary > Rayudu, on the basis of this whole season. Rayudu is more talented in the technical sense, but he needs to improve in Ranji. There was too much pressure on Rayudu to perform after being a huge success in the U-19s.

Pandey has had a better season than Tiwary, yes. He plays his cricket at Bangalore and Mysore - both which have something for the bowlers. Mysore is extremely bowler friendly, as you must've seen in the Ranji finals. However, Pandey is a player I'd have at the top of the order in a limited overs game. Someone who can make use of the Powerplay. Tiwary is the better fit for the team at this point, and Pandey will gain valuable experience in England. It's a win-win situation, although I'm sure Pandey wouldn't mind getting a call-up himself. But, Pandey isn't a finished product yet. His defence isn't watertight, and sometimes he plays loosely outside his off-stump, but that's due to his attacking nature. Tiwary seems more ready at this stage, with his unorthodox technique combined with his brute strength. Quite similar to Dhoni.

"Technical Sense" is the one factor which a player needs when he plays One Day cricket (T20's and ODI's) IMO. All I ccan say is Saurabh Tiwary is in form, but Rayudu has got much more experience than him, but bit out of form. So, any one of them can be selected, but I'd have gone with Rayudu in this big profile series as Conditions in Sri Lanka are bit different from conditions in India.
 
Sachin has only done to county and not for himself. The more he take rest, the more chances he will play in future esp World Cup and he needs to be fit there because that what matters.
 
No Sachin why!! =(

The Asia cup has only 4 matches (assuming India make the final) and is only 2 weeks long. Why not play in that and rest for the NZ-SL-Ind tri series instead.

Yuvraj left out is a big blow I don't care who says what. I do however hope he gets fully fit and becomes injury free for the 3 test series vs SL and beyond. So Happy Yusuf has been dropped! Robin get your treatment done soon dude we will need you for the finisher role down at #6/7
 
Sachin is Sachin, he can rest how much ever he wants (as long as he plays tests, ODI series in Australia/Pakistan, World Cups). He's probably sick of the Lankans.

However, the Asia Cup is probably our 4th biggest fixture, so this is a surprise. We haven't won in a while and I would like to correct that.

Call me old fashioned, but since Sach is taking a break I would have picked Dravid. Idk, just gives me a sense of confidence when we have on REALLY experienced, calm guy in the team. Last few tours without any of them we have suffered.
 
Has Dravid formally retired from limited overs internationals? When was the last time he played an ODI?
 
I thought it was sort of around when india won the first t20 he was phased out by their new players.

but, and I might be mad, I seem to remember him scoring some runs in the ICC trophy thingy.
 
Has Dravid formally retired from limited overs internationals? When was the last time he played an ODI?

No, Dravid is still available for ODI selection.

The Indian team selected for the Asia Cup has not sprung up any surprises. Yuvraj and Yusuf were expected to make way and they did. I am still disappointed that Nehra is persisted. Bring back Ishant before its too late. Why is Irfan repeatedly ignored? Jadeja has to be there. He has been good in ODI's. Sachin deserves as much rest as he needs. He knows his body best. Sachin played a very strenous IPL. He knows the team can manage without him. Let him rest so that he is fit enough for the main events coming up (esp. WC)
 
No, Dravid is still available for ODI selection.

The Indian team selected for the Asia Cup has not sprung up any surprises. Yuvraj and Yusuf were expected to make way and they did. I am still disappointed that Nehra is persisted. Bring back Ishant before its too late. Why is Irfan repeatedly ignored? Jadeja has to be there. He has been good in ODI's. Sachin deserves as much rest as he needs. He knows his body best. Sachin played a very strenous IPL. He knows the team can manage without him. Let him rest so that he is fit enough for the main events coming up (esp. WC)

Zimbabwe beg to differ
 
No, Dravid is still available for ODI selection.

The Indian team selected for the Asia Cup has not sprung up any surprises. Yuvraj and Yusuf were expected to make way and they did. I am still disappointed that Nehra is persisted. Bring back Ishant before its too late. Why is Irfan repeatedly ignored? Jadeja has to be there. He has been good in ODI's. Sachin deserves as much rest as he needs. He knows his body best. Sachin played a very strenous IPL. He knows the team can manage without him. Let him rest so that he is fit enough for the main events coming up (esp. WC)
IPL?
I guess it was before one and half month (For the Asia Cup). Still, he's not fit. And who asked him to play such a strenous IPL, when he knew that he would go unfit if he does that?
I strongly that IPL is not the main reason.

I guess he has some fitness problem, which he's hiding and keeping it behind the screen. If my guess is correct, he'll play one or two series' against Australia- New Zealand and South Africa, then, CWC 2011 and then, Bbye:).
 
IPL?
I guess it was before one and half month (For the Asia Cup). Still, he's not fit. And who asked him to play such a strenous IPL, when he knew that he would go unfit if he does that?
I strongly that IPL is not the main reason.

I guess he has some fitness problem, which he's hiding and keeping it behind the screen. If my guess is correct, he'll play one or two series' against Australia- New Zealand and South Africa, then, CWC 2011 and then, Bbye:).

Yeah it's not because of IPL. IIRC don't the holidays for school kids end around June in India? Maybe he wants to spend time with his kids since they are on holidays. That is probably the only reason. Otherwise how hard is it to play 4 matches.. I mean this would have helped him get use to the Sri Lankan conditions (not that they are too different from Indian but still) before the upcoming test series with them. Oh well nothing can be done about it now. The middle order looks a little frail without Yuvi there. But still we should do fine. Gambhir is due for a good ODI series.
 
Its upto you, but what I spoke is the thing with some sense, rather than just boast up favorite player even if he's unable to play:yes. Its his time to retire, after the downfall he had in 2005-06 belt. He had a great comeback and got a double ton. I still respect him, but I think its time for him. Everyone has a time, where they have to retire. Blind fans like you just want your stars even after they die. Even I respect tendulkar, and as a well wisher, I say its his time.
And regarding the Indian bowling, you HAVE to accept a truth that "A Player cannot be rated on T20 performance". If you do it, you're a cricketing fan. If not, you are, not just fail, Epic Fail:yes.
You;re rating Indian bowling as poor one by seeing T20 World cup and IPL as standard. I do agree that India doesn't have good bowling, but its not soooooo poor what you're thinking. A team cannot be No. 1 Test team without bowling.

WTF!:eek::eek:
You're saying that Tendulkar is not able to play and you're saying that he's only got a double ton and nothing else.
You need to go to a doctor, see his stats, his performances in ODI's, Tests(4 back to back hundreds) Won India the Commonwealth cup in Australia. I would not like to say it, but see Indian team's performance with him and without him in ODI's, I am scared that they haven't won even one. He's playing like a gem and you're saying he's not able to play, he should retire.:facepalm

And WTH I said that I'm judging on their T20 performance. If you think so, then you need to go to the doctor again because you seems to be extra intelligent. Indian bowlers have shown in the past what they are. No one is really reliable except Bhajji and Zaheer. I rate Jadeja as a pretty good bowler but he's also have his bad times. no really young talent is coming and cementing his place in the side. WTH is RP Singh, indian selection is surely to be blamed, Agarkar's career was ended with no reason. Murali Kartik despite being one of the finest spinner in India never got selected.

Your points are senseless.

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IPL?
I guess it was before one and half month (For the Asia Cup). Still, he's not fit. And who asked him to play such a strenous IPL, when he knew that he would go unfit if he does that?
I strongly that IPL is not the main reason.

I guess he has some fitness problem, which he's hiding and keeping it behind the screen. If my guess is correct, he'll play one or two series' against Australia- New Zealand and South Africa, then, CWC 2011 and then, Bbye:).

yeah his decision is sick and India will have to pay for that.
IPL is not the thing to blame, it is only Sachin who is to be blamed for the decision. I don't know WTF people have problems with IPL.

Also i totally disagree with your point that Sachin is good for nothing, India still needs him badly. The only person else is Sehwag, if they have them both, india is a powerhouse, miss out one, India is weak, miss out both India is crap..
 
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Guys lay off Sachin Tendulkar. This man understands his body the best. None of you people can decide whether Asia Cup will be exhausting or not. Despite the fact that he has stated that hes doing it for his children, the fact could very well be that he is mentally exhausted after a grueling IPL.
Plus Tendulkar is not going to be here forever. I think its about time that India brought fresh exciting batting talent. Hard as it maybe, I think the search for the next Tendulkar has already started in the minds of selectors.

I am glad they got rid of Yuseless pathan. Yuvraj I always feel is a match winner. I think a season of domestic cricket will do him much good. Help him gain his confidence back.
I am happy they are giving Ravindra Jadeja more opportunities. We need to blood more youngsters like him. Saurabh Tiwari is a good choice as well, though Raydu and Manoj both were unlucky. I think they should be selected in future tours. The prospect of watching these youngsters playing is definitely exciting!

Enough said about batting, the bowling talent just looks bare in comparison:facepalm
India has always had this problem though. I really hope they can come up with some decent seamers in the upcoming seasons.
 
Also i totally agree with your point that Sachin is good for nothing, India still needs him badly.

well obviously sachin is allowed to pick and choose the tours he goes on; he has earnt the right to do so, he's a legend for god's sake!! he needs time off the game thats what making him play till today. And it will be great to see new players like tiwary showing their worth although i'm not sure he's suited to ODI cricket.

India has always had this problem though. I really hope they can come up with some decent seamers in the upcoming seasons.

The problem here is that indian bowlers are chosen on performances in the IPL. As akshay said they need to choose bowlers like RP Singh,Sreesanth and Irfan Pathan who are class bowlers but overlooked by the selectors. And any new bowlers they find should not be chosen from performances in the IPL but rather performances in the Ranjii Trophy or the List A competition.
 

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