Australia in England

[Annihilation66]

i agree M Vaughn says England will be unbveatable but i think that in the last 2 tests england have performed at their best and they could have been beaten in both tests. When Australia click like at lords they will be unstoppable for another year.

 

[Englishandproud]

Are u kidding me. England are nothing but pathetic. Australia shud have won this match and the previous one. The poor umpiring has cost Australia much more than England. If Martyn hadnt been given out the Aussies might have won but they still had the guts to draw the match. And in the 2nd test simon jones was saved due to poor umpiring and later put on 50 runs with flintoff. If that hadnt happened Australia would have won that as well.

All ifs,buts and maybes, my fiend, they dont win anything in cricket matches. Anyway they have gone now and it is time to move onto the next test match.

 

[Annihilation66]

Well a lot of things have gone wrong for them lately but i guess its time the luck changed

 

[andrew_nixon]

The Lancashire v Yorkshire match on at the moment is showing up Ashley Giles for the quality of spinner he is.

In the first session of the first day, Gary Keedy is getting as much turn as Giles was on the 5th day of the test.

 

[Sureshot]

Different pitch.

 

[andrew_nixon]

Different pitch.

Looks pretty much the same as the test pitch did on the first day to me.

 

[Sureshot]

The fact is that Australia played crap with an ageing team but still only lost by 2 runs and were only 50 runs short in the end this test match. If martyn wasnt given out it could have been a different story. BUt thats life.

Australia have effectively won the ashes as we have alerady seen that no matter how well England play and how badly australia play Australia are still close to winning.

I think Australia will be the same strenght in the nnext ashes as they are now just with younger players. the one after that will be a walkover for Australia and the world will be back to normal.......1st Australia............2nd India......3rd England

Don't make me laugh, India are poor. Australia are number one in the world and England are Number 2.

With the Ian Bell incident you could see the bat wobble as the ball hit the outside edge. Never mind what snicko said because it didnt even register a sound when the bat hit the pad

So what umpire decisions go each way. Aleem dar and Bowden for next test please

They've won one match by a couple of runs. That's not so much.

In my experience you need good pace to employ reverse swing properly.

I think it shows that on day 5 at Old Trafford, Giles could hardly baffle the batsmen. Although Warne didn't get wickets either, he did create several great chances.

I think that's harsh on Hoggard, he's employed to swing the new ball, he doesn't really have the pace to swing the old one. There was little in the pitch for new ball swing, but still he was competent. Harmison is a similar story, although he was clearly underperforming at times. I think without Jones and Flintoff's excellent abilities to move the old ball, they would have looked far less damaging.

Vaughan regaining form is a little strong, he was still streaky enough to get out early too many times for my liking. Bell is the real deal though, I like him.

You would hope so, though I'm curious how bowlers get to Test level without knowing how to deal with tailenders.

The tailenders have batted well though, especially Dizzy and Lee. warne is more of a lower order batsmen.

With the Ian Bell incident you could see the bat wobble as the ball hit the outside edge. Never mind what snicko said because it didnt even register a sound when the bat hit the pad

I'm still undecided on that decision tbh, but then umpires aren't perfect.

 

[Annihilation66]

How about u dont l=make me laugh. England are crap when they are performing well. I will admit that India are not on form at the moment while England are. BUt an on form England couldnt beat an out of form ageing australia convincingly.

Englands batting attack is pathetic compared to India and the bowling is even as India have the spinners while England have the pace.

We will see at the next world cup. And until u beat india in March cut the bull****

 

[Sman-21]

Well i am absolutely hating this test series

Yet another late late night meaning no sleep for me.
Game finished about 2am here, i just couldnt stop watching incase it cost the aussies a wicket. So i only got 3hours sleep before having to get up at 5am for work.

I still disagree that its englands bowlers that are troubling the aussies if that were the case they wouldnt be having so many problems getting the tailenders out almost causing them to lose 2nd test and failing to win 3rd test.
Its because the aussie batsmen are completely out of form and just arent getting there minds on the job and concentrating every ball.
As we saw with Ponting and the tailenders if they knuckle down and concentrate Englands bowlers struggle to get them out.

And im with the English fans in 2-3years time Australia will be struggling and probably be rated 3rd or 4th best team and England will be at their best.
You cant just bring inexperienced players at top level and expect them to play well and consistently.
Just look at Clarke started with a blaze of glory and is now struggling a bit,but in 1-2 years he will be at his best and full of experience.
So if we have to bring in 5 other new players expect the same kind of performances from them.

 

[m_vaughan]

They've won one match by a couple of runs. That's not so much.

Who cares? England still outplayed the Aussies in that match, and it was only the final session in which the Aussies looked good. The result in this case doesnt reveal the actual story.

Englands batting attack is pathetic compared to India and the bowling is even as India have the spinners while England have the pace.

Thats just stupid. India just have Dravid who performs well regularly, and Tendulkar who is a good player. The rest are useless, over-rated and fail to perform more often than not. And with the Indian spinners, you never know. On one day they'll cause havoc, but on the remaining days they'll get smashed all over the park.

i agree M Vaughn says England will be unbveatable but i think that in the last 2 tests england have performed at their best and they could have been beaten in both tests. When Australia click like at lords they will be unstoppable for another year.

England underperformed terribly at Lords, and the batsmen were facing Warne for the first time in the summer. But the tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford have shown a new improved and positive England go after Warne from ball 1.

And England havent performed at their best. I still think Harmison has underperformed in these two tests. If he starts firing now, then the Aussies will struggle to get past 2000. And as far as the third test is concerned, the rain which took away almost an entire day, saved the Australians.

I mean 200....I am unable to edit the above post for some reason.

 

[Annihilation66]

I think Englands batting is at its best and is not looking that good. Lets face it the batting is not up against the best bowling attack in thw world any more although Warne, MGrath and LEe are pretty good now.

I think India in the same situation would have got a lot more than Englands 444 which was mostly due to Vaughns knock.

Yes there is Dravid but i think u forgot Ganguly, Laxman, Kaif, Shewag, and of course Tendulkar who for me is the best batsman in the world tied with Lara with Pointing closely behind. I dont rank any of the England batsmen in the team now although i did like Thorpe who was unfairly denied a place in the team and would have done a lot better than some members of the team instead

 

[Ryand]

The aussies just have to win one more match to retain the ashes.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

India are awsome in tests. Kumble and Harbhajan are effective. Pathan is coming up the ranks. Dravid, Sachin, Sehwag and Gambhir all have impressed. Just a bit of bad form, that all.

 

[m_vaughan]

Anyways, England are no.2 at present and they fully deserve it. And let this remain an England v Australia Ashes thread. We can discuss about India and England in some other thread.

 

[angryangy]

Who cares? England still outplayed the Aussies in that match, and it was only the final session in which the Aussies looked good. The result in this case doesnt reveal the actual story.

I just mean that you can't call it domination if just one or two balls could have lost the match. It doesn't matter how good the individual components of your game are, if you don't actually defeat your opponent. How would it have been if they had won? Totally outplayed, but they still win? That would have been a disaster for England.