King Pietersen
ICC Board Member
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Your completely missing the point that the batsman (barring Trott, who might i add scored almost half the runs, yet you still are only lambasting him) were the ones who put the pressure on the tail, not Trott.
Stop being biassed and be realistic. We lost it due to rash shots from most of our batsmen.
Besides, we'll still thrash them in the last game, who cares?
The entire top order put pressure on the tail, Trott included. He batted OK, it was a decent knock, but he just did not bat quickly enough, or take enough responsibility at the death. He showed towards the end of the innings that he was capable of rotating the strike, and finding the twos, so why couldn't he do it earlier in his innings? The bowling wasn't so good that Trott was forced to strike at 50, it was just a poorly paced innings. We batted 49.3 overs, yet couldn't chase 237. Trott batted the large majority of the innings and should have got us home, but didn't bat quickly enough, which put him and the team under unnecessary pressure.
You haven't even given the Bangladesh bowlers any credit. You just blaming Trott . Although it is true Trott is not the greatest player of spin - he is not as bad as you have articulated before. Trott isn't a power-player. He is a bit like Michael Clarke in the way he plays. Given the circumstances today, Trott batted to the best of his ability regardless. Since if he had made ZERO, England would have lost much earlier.
In a perfect scenario if Trott is batting @ 3 in the ODI side. He won't necessarily have to bat in the last 10 overs in chase or setting a target where his non-big hitting ability will be exposed. He can & would be very effective batting within the first 40 overs.
Disagree. Michael Clarke is an exceptional player of spin bowling, and I'm sure he would have scored far quicker than Trott did today. We already have a Clarke-esque batsman in this side, and that is Ian Bell. Bell is a classy strokemaker that is excellent against spin. Trott is a dogged accumulator of runs that struggles to maneuver the ball and find singles against spin. We don't need a player like that in the ODi side. He's decent at the top of the innings, when there are gaps in the field which he can hit through and find boundaries, but outside the powerplay overs he struggles to score quickly enough, and with guys like Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood and Morgan available to us, we don't need a player like Trott.
Good to see you acknowledging Shah BTW. Both of them should be in the 2011 WC IMO.
Davies most likely will be in as well yes as back-up keeper to Kieswetter (although i wont rule out Priors chances of being back-up keeper). But i'm not sure how & why you are suggesting Daveis as better option than Trott?. They would have obvious different roles in the ODI team.
I'd consider having Trott in the side, but he shouldn't be a nailed on selection, simply due to the points I've made about him in the past. Pitches in the subcontinent, and India specifically might not be the bunsen burners of the past, but they're still slow, and teams will be using more than one spinner, so Trott will struggle to score quickly. He doesn't score quickly enough to bat in the middle order and isn't one of the best options available to open.
As for Shah. I still think his fielding and running could hamper the side potentially, but he's a good enough batsman to get a place in the squad. He's good against spin, is capable of scoring quickly and is playing well for Middlesex. Should be ahead of Trott in the pecking order I think.
Trott's best position is opening, or at 3. Davies could easily come into that top order as a pure batsman. He's a fantastic timer of the ball, is excellent against spin and scores quickly. I'd be happy with him at 3 or opening, with Kieswetter moving down the order and playing a role similar to the role he's played for Somerset in the past, batting at 6 or 7.
As i mentioned above, Trott isn't a power-player. He is a bit like Michael Clarke in the way he plays. Given the circumstances today, Trott batted to the best of his ability regardless.
He batted to the best of his ability, but I'm not sure that's good enough.
For the record. I'm not placing the entire blame on Jonathan Trott, it was a terrible team performance. Trott was the stand out performer with the bat, but even he didn't bat well enough. The rest of the batting order batted even worse, not putting any value on their wicket and leaving the run chase to someone else. It's clear Trott isn't a finisher and he needed someone to stick with him till the end, but none of the batsmen were capable of doing that. The bowling was largely good, with Shahzad impressing, but the fielding was sloppy again, which is disappointing given how well we've fielded in recent times. Bangladesh shouldn't have got as many as they did, and in the end it cost us.
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