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If others around him are scoring quickly he can be ideal. Strauss is picking up the pace so there is no need for him to go barmy, although I agree he does seem to be stuck in test match mode.
Bangladesh tour of England, May-July 2010
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If others around him are scoring quickly he can be ideal. Strauss is picking up the pace so there is no need for him to go barmy, although I agree he does seem to be stuck in test match mode.
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i m not saying that he should just bang bang bang but still you can get atleast a 80 strike rate by playing normal cricket.Even 65 strike rate is also rare in test matches now a days
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not watching but I fancy a wicket to fall if razzaq can get it right, mortaza's been tight as... well, lots of colourful euphanisms come to mind, none of which I shall say in front of under 18s
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A camel's bum in a sandstorm?
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Well he still manages to average over 65 in ODI's so he must be doing something right..........
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Now look Trott's S.rate is just 60
yawnnnn!!!!!! reminds me of the old days.
Thank god it reached 70 now keep it increasing
yawnnnn!!!!!! reminds me of the old days.
Thank god it reached 70 now keep it increasing
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This is how Trott plays, need to get used to it if he's going to stay in this side. He's good at scoring off the seamers in the powerplays, but as soon as the field goes out and the spin comes on, he struggles to rotate the strike and his strike rate begins to plummet. Something he definitely needs to work on, as in the modern era of ODi cricket, you can't afford to have a guy striking at 65/70, as it puts too much pressure on the rest of the batting line-up to strike at over 100 and get us upto the 300 scores which are required against the best sides.
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You have to give the bowlers credit as well. And anyway I like this kind of tight battle. I dont find it boring. Actually refreshing from that slog fest that is Twenty20 or IPL.
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Yeah true These t20has snatched the old fun of cricket.Whenever i switch tv the camera is only at boundary
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I think that Trott is alright at the moment. He came in at the fourth ball so had to play himself in when there was a bit of movement. I hope when he's got in and reached a good score he can really kick on and start going a bit more aggressively (in terms of running as well).
I'd like to see Bopara come in for the next wicket. He's been given his chance for this game so he really needs to cease the opportunity.
I'd like to see Bopara come in for the next wicket. He's been given his chance for this game so he really needs to cease the opportunity.
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It wasn't a matter of him needing to play himself in though, he hasn't accelerated his run rate, it's going down. He was striking at 87 early on in his innings, and that has now dropped to 68, but was as low as 62. He struggles in the middle overs. He's not very good at finding gaps, doesn't score quickly enough against spin and bar odd sweep shot that trickles to the boundary he doesn't appear to show any intent. This might sound like a vendetta against Trott from me, but it really isn't. I like him in Test cricket, and he's an OK ODi player, but I just don't think he's the type of guy we need in the middle order, when we've already got a very similar player, in Strauss, opening the batting. Looking forward to seeing Pietersen and Bell return, so that we have some real intent in the middle overs, though saying that, Strauss is doing a very good job of accelerating his scoring rate.
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He's my captain struass :banana2:banana2 reached a fifty
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I suppose you make fair points. I don't have a comeback because I genuinely don't know what to say haha. Let's hope he can improve though. He's got a good chance here with a solid foundation set.
Strauss is doing a good job though. He's become such a solid, consistent player over the years. I think that since he took the captaincy he's only improved.
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so bangladesh failed in getting wickets again now just watch the bang bang in the end
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At least his strike rate is going in the right direction, it's crept upto 71, but he could do with getting it upto around 85, like Strauss has managed to do. This pitch looks good, and I think we're going to need 280-300, so we could do with Trott showing some intent and playing with some aggression.
Time and a place for accelerating, you need runs on the board not batsmen back in the pavillion. Leave Trott alone, he puts on 60-70 or better and he'll have done more than a lot of the passengers in the side. You need a balance of batting, 300 may require a run a ball rate overall, but you don't need to score at that rate throughout. The general rule of thumb is double the score after 30 overs, if that is so then 150 runs should come off the first 30 and 150 off the last 20 which is respective rates of 5.00 and 7.50. You need to see off the new ball, preserve wickets and then take on the second string bowlers. Everyone walks out all guns blazing and we end up neck deep in doo-doo like in the 2nd ODI - 4-5 wickets down in no time at all.
And just when I thought England had taken a step forward they take one back by bringing back double O zero - the Bresnan
Shazhad showed why we need wicket taking bowlers, he was about the only one and we lost the 2nd ODI, so we bring back another so who is going to take the wickets? No good batting down to 11 (in theory), we need to be able to defend the totals and most of the batting should be done by #10
Shame I did my analysis of Yardy, Bresnan and Wright on BBC 606 not here. But I know Yardy took 3 wickets in his 1st and 7th ODIs and has taken just FOUR in the other 12 ODIs. Wright and Bresnan have batting SRs in the 90s, but that's no good if you're scoring like 10-20 when you go to the crease - Bresnan's batting average is in the 30s, but due to a lot of not outs. So besides Broad and Shazhad we have the promise/expectation of maybe a wicket or two. As spinners go, Yardy is economic but not a wicket taker.
Broad - takes wickets, can be expensive
Shazhad - so far has taken wickets albeit against Bangladesh
Bresnan - doesn't take nearly enough wickets, can be expensive
Yardy - economic but doesn't take enough wickets (10 in 14 ODIs - 6 in 2 ODIs, 4 in the other 10)
Wright - too expensive, not threatening wickets enough
Bopara - Ravi Bit-parta when it comes to bowling, six wickets @ 48.83 in 46 ODIs
Collingwood - useful, but how often does he not bowl his allocation?
And just when I thought England had taken a step forward they take one back by bringing back double O zero - the Bresnan
Shazhad showed why we need wicket taking bowlers, he was about the only one and we lost the 2nd ODI, so we bring back another so who is going to take the wickets? No good batting down to 11 (in theory), we need to be able to defend the totals and most of the batting should be done by #10Shame I did my analysis of Yardy, Bresnan and Wright on BBC 606 not here. But I know Yardy took 3 wickets in his 1st and 7th ODIs and has taken just FOUR in the other 12 ODIs. Wright and Bresnan have batting SRs in the 90s, but that's no good if you're scoring like 10-20 when you go to the crease - Bresnan's batting average is in the 30s, but due to a lot of not outs. So besides Broad and Shazhad we have the promise/expectation of maybe a wicket or two. As spinners go, Yardy is economic but not a wicket taker.
Broad - takes wickets, can be expensive
Shazhad - so far has taken wickets albeit against Bangladesh
Bresnan - doesn't take nearly enough wickets, can be expensive
Yardy - economic but doesn't take enough wickets (10 in 14 ODIs - 6 in 2 ODIs, 4 in the other 10)
Wright - too expensive, not threatening wickets enough
Bopara - Ravi Bit-parta when it comes to bowling, six wickets @ 48.83 in 46 ODIs
Collingwood - useful, but how often does he not bowl his allocation?
