End Game Dethwing Classic - Mafia (Rebel2k17) wins!

[Villain]

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia (Sane, Insane, Paranoid)
PS - Villain - Town (Sane, Insane, Naive)
Villain - Rebel - Town (Sane, Insane, Naive)
Rudi - Ali - Town (Sane, Insane, Naive)
Ali - Villain - Mafia (Sane, Insane, Paranoid)

To my own understanding; I know people obviously won't belive me saying I'm town at this stage but I know my alignment hence:
PS is either Sane/Naive
Ali is either Insane/Paranoid

Possibility 1:
Rebel - Sane (=Rudi Mafia)
PS - Sane/Naive (Can't be Insane since we're assuming Rudi is Mafia).
Villain - Sane/Naive
Ali - Paranoid/Insane

Using this it is safe to say @Rebel2k17 can't be Sane? Thoughts?

More analysis to follow.

 

[Villain]

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia (Sane, Insane, Paranoid)
PS - Villain - Town (Sane, Insane, Naive)
Villain - Rebel - Town (Sane, Insane, Naive)
Rudi - Ali - Town (Sane, Insane, Naive)
Ali - Villain - Mafia (Sane, Insane, Paranoid)

To my own understanding; I know people obviously won't belive me saying I'm town at this stage but I know my alignment hence:
PS is either Sane/Naive
Ali is either Insane/Paranoid

Possibility 1:
Rebel - Sane (=Rudi Mafia)
PS - Sane/Naive (Can't be Insane since we're assuming Rudi is Mafia).
Villain - Sane/Naive
Ali - Paranoid/Insane

Using this it is safe to say @Rebel2k17 can't be Sane? Thoughts?

More analysis to follow.

Can ignore my part a bit there since Rebel wrote everything down while I was typing this.

 

[Villain]

If Rebel is mafia;
PS - Sane/Naive
Villain - Naive/Insane
Rudi - Sane/Naive
Ali - Insane/Paranoid

More to follow

 

[Villain]

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia
PS - Villain - Town
Villain - Rebel - Town
Rudi - Ali - Town
Ali - Villain - Mafia

Let us assume Ali to be mafia,

Rebel - Insane/Paranoid
PS - Sane/Naive
Villain - Sane/Naive
Rudi - Insane/Naive

Ali not clear.

Let us assume Rudi to be mafia,

Rebel - Sane/Paranoid
PS - Sane/Naive
Villain - Sane/Naive
Ali - Insane/Paranoid

Rudi not clear.

Let us assume Villain to be mafia,

Rebel - Insane/Paranoid
PS - Insane/Naive
Ali - Sane/Naive
Rudi - Sane/Naive

Villain not clear.

Let us assume PS to be mafia,

Rebel - Insane/Paranoid
Ali - Insane/Paranoid
Villain - Sane/Naive
Rudi - Sane/Naive

PS not clear.

Let us assume Rebel to be mafia,

Ali - Insane/Paranoid
PS - Sane/Naive
Villain - Insane/Naive
Rudi - Sane/Naive

Rebel not clear.

Now this is confusing especially if you have to analyse on mobile! I have never seen a dethy game where someone isn't cleared after analysing the results of all the players. Can someone please double check if what I did is correct?


This is a typical defense to get away with it. For now I won't vote but FOS Ali.[DOUBLEPOST=1521529050][/DOUBLEPOST]
That was common sense?

Completely missed it, will confirm once on PC.

 

[RUDI]

Sane Cop - aka normal cop. Will return a correct result.
Insane Cop - Will return the opposite result.
Paranoid Cop - Will return a mafia result.
Naive Cop - Will return a town result

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia
PS - Villain - Town
Villain - Rebel - Town
Rudi - Ali - Town
Ali - Villain - Mafia

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Rebel - paranoid/insane cop
PS - paranoid/insane/naive cop
Villain - paranoid/insane/naive cop
Rudi - paranoid/insane/naive cop
Ali - paranoid/insane/naive/sane cop

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Dethy/Analysis

By assuming one person is Scum and analyzing each player's inspection, you can clear that person if three people would have to assume only two roles

Assume Villain as scum:
Ali - sane/naive
PS - insane/naive
Rebel - insane/paranoid
Rudi - sane/naive

Assume Rudi is scum:
Ali - paranoid/insane
PS - sane/naive
Rebel - sane/paranoid
Villain - sane/paranoid

Assume PS as scum:
Ali - paranoid/insane
Rebel - paranoid/insane
Rudi - sane/naive
Villain - sane/naive

Assume Rebel as scum:
Ali - sane/naive
PS - sane/naive
Rudi - sane/naive
Villain - insane/paranoid

Assume Ali as scum:
PS - sane/naive
Rebel - paranoid/insane
Rudi - paranoid/insane/naive
Villain - sane/naive

This is my first Dethy analysis, but it looks like someone is lying about there result from last night.

 

[Villain]

Seeing currently no one's clear, assuming Rebel is town:

Possibility 1:
Rebel - Sane (=Rudi Mafia)
PS - Sane/Naive (Can't be Insane since we're assuming Rudi is Mafia).
Villain - Sane/Naive
Ali - Paranoid/Insane
Result - not possible.

Possibility 2:
If Rebel is Insane (=Rudi Town)
Rebel - Insane
Villain - Sane/Naive
PS - Sane/Naive
Rudi - Sane/Paranoid
Ali - Insane
Result - Possible

Possibility 3:
If Rebel is Paranoid
Rebel - Paranoid
Villain - Sane/Insane/Naive
PS - Sane/Insane/Naive
Rudi - Sane/Insane/Naive
Ali - Sane/Insane/Paranoid

Result?

 

[Villain]

Possibility 2:
If Rebel is Insane (=Rudi Town)
Rebel - Insane
Villain - Sane/Naive
PS - Insane/Sane/Naive
Rudi - Sane/Paranoid
Ali - Insane
Result - Possible

Not too sure about this result, hopefully someone can take this forward ..just tried something out of the box.


Sorry for so many posts... kinda difficult on mobile.

 

[Gaurav_7]

I seriously didn't get what you mean, Villain. Assuming someone as town can't work as whoever we we assume as mafia in the analysis, is only to clear that person as town. If we already assume someone as town, what is the use of the analysis? I have my suspicions on Ali only as of now. PS also hasn't yet posted anything which is concrete so he too has to post.

 

[Villain]

I seriously didn't get what you mean, Villain. Assuming someone as town can't work as whoever we we assume as mafia in the analysis, is only to clear that person as town. If we already assume someone as town, what is the use of the analysis? I have my suspicions on Ali only as of now. PS also hasn't yet posted anything which is concrete so he too has to post.

You're right, as I said I only tried something out of the box which isn't very logical at the moment but may just help since maybe if we are clear of you being town on Day 1 or whenever it may make sense since for now I'm more inclined towards believing you at the stage since you were the first to post, at this moment it's pretty clear if you're a Cop you're not a Sane cop at least.

Kinda agree about AliB a bit at the moment, posting the investigation after everyone has seems like a cliché mafia thing to do in this setup. And PS needs to post more.

 

[AliB]

Any reasons for suspecting me @Rebel2k17?[DOUBLEPOST=1521538391][/DOUBLEPOST]

Kinda agree about AliB a bit at the moment, posting the investigation after everyone has seems like a cliché mafia thing to do in this setup. And PS needs to post more.

I wasn't active, thus was the last to post.

 

[Perfect Square]

After seeing everyone calculating and working their brains. I do agree with Rudi here. It's kinda looking impossible to draw a result from Day 1 investigations.

Obviously Mafia is lying as he made up. But is a cop lying? It's kinda out of box thought but just in case.

I have to go for lunch. So l will be back.

Sane Cop - aka normal cop. Will return a correct result.
Insane Cop - Will return the opposite result.
Paranoid Cop - Will return a mafia result.
Naive Cop - Will return a town result

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia
PS - Villain - Town
Villain - Rebel - Town
Rudi - Ali - Town
Ali - Villain - Mafia

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Rebel - paranoid/insane cop
PS - paranoid/insane/naive cop
Villain - paranoid/insane/naive cop
Rudi - paranoid/insane/naive cop
Ali - paranoid/insane/naive/sane cop

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Dethy/Analysis

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Assume Villain as scum:
Ali - sane/naive
PS - insane/naive
Rebel - insane/paranoid
Rudi - sane/naive

Assume Rudi is scum:
Ali - paranoid/insane
PS - sane/naive
Rebel - sane/paranoid
Villain - sane/paranoid

Assume PS as scum:
Ali - paranoid/insane
Rebel - paranoid/insane
Rudi - sane/naive
Villain - sane/naive

Assume Rebel as scum:
Ali - sane/naive
PS - sane/naive
Rudi - sane/naive
Villain - insane/paranoid

Assume Ali as scum:
PS - sane/naive
Rebel - paranoid/insane
Rudi - paranoid/insane/naive
Villain - sane/naive

This is my first Dethy analysis, but it looks like someone is lying about there result from last night.

 

[RUDI]

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia
PS - Villain - Town
Villain - Rebel - Town
Rudi - Ali - Town
Ali - Villain - Mafia

Let's say Ali was lying about Villain being Mafia:

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia
PS - Villain - Town
Villain - Rebel - Town
Rudi - Ali - Town
Ali - Villain - Town

Rebel - Insane/Paranoid
PS - Sane/Naive
Rudi - insane/Paranoid
Villain - sane/Naive

FOS: AliB

 

[Gaurav_7]

Obviously Mafia is lying as he made up. But is a cop lying? It's kinda out of box thought but just in case.

If a cop is lying that is the dumbest thing to do as I remember in one of the dethy games I was mafia and one cop posted a fake result which auto cleared me as town on day 1 itself!

Ali I suspect you only for being online and not posting here. You also posted last with your result. And your response was also suspicious.

 

[RUDI]

Ali - paranoid/insane/naive/sane cop

Is this possible? That one player can be likely any of the four town cops?

 

[Gaurav_7]

Let's say Ali was lying about Villain being Mafia:

Rebel - Rudi - Mafia
PS - Villain - Town
Villain - Rebel - Town
Rudi - Ali - Town
Ali - Villain - Town

Rebel - Insane/Paranoid
PS - Sane/Naive
Rudi - insane/Paranoid
Villain - sane/Naive

FOS: AliB

That is actually analysis which doesn't make Ali town or mafia. If we go by the analysis no one is clear.[DOUBLEPOST=1521539077][/DOUBLEPOST]

Is this possible? That one player can be likely any of the four town cops?

No way. Who posted that?