India in England/Ireland/Scotland
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evertonfan
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He probably is. There's not exactly a swarm of world class spinners in the ODI game. Vettori probably comes the closest.
I think he'd be third behind Hogg.
Big game tomorrow, we could be resting Flintoff, which I wouldn't mind as I'd rather have him fit for 4 games than play one and miss the next two.
Not as much emphasis on the toss as it's a day game.
Big game tomorrow, we could be resting Flintoff, which I wouldn't mind as I'd rather have him fit for 4 games than play one and miss the next two.
Not as much emphasis on the toss as it's a day game.
evertonfan
Chairman of Selectors
Damn, no lie in for me tomorrow. They'd better make it bloody worth it!
I'd like to see Ravi bowled more. Don't know why Colly hasn't used him.
I'd like to see Ravi bowled more. Don't know why Colly hasn't used him.
Hogg's been good too. It's a close call really. The point I'm trying to make is that Powar is undervalued by many. Almost every game he bowls well and takes wickets. Chawla has done that too, but my talent spotting skills don't rate him too highly. He won't get much turn, and he isn't as accurate as Kumble. Anyway, so far he's done very well, let's hope he proves me wrong.
The key in these ODIs is India's batting vs England's bowling. India will be delighted to restrict England to 300 or below and they'll be counting on chasing that down (vice versa if they bat first).
The key in these ODIs is India's batting vs England's bowling. India will be delighted to restrict England to 300 or below and they'll be counting on chasing that down (vice versa if they bat first).
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For me, a lie in is not getting out of bed until 9.00! The match doesn't start until 10.45 so I will be alright, but, my word, what do you call a lie in?!
evertonfan
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About 1 or 2 o'clock.
Moving on. The game is at Edgbaston yes? Bank Holiday too. Should be a packed house and a bit of a party atmosphere. That will work in our favour.
Moving on. The game is at Edgbaston yes? Bank Holiday too. Should be a packed house and a bit of a party atmosphere. That will work in our favour.
Resting Flintoff in my opinion would be the smart tactical move in the long term unless of course he is fully fit.
For the bowlers, if possible, I would drop Agarkar. He is bowling poorly, it is a horrible combination which is doing it. His arm has dropped and with loss of rhythm, he is releasing it late and this causes him to bowl both wide and short. The bowling coach should be able to help him to work on it but until then, he should not play. I am not sure about Munaf Patel, he still seems to not be fully fit and I am really not a fan of playing anyone who is even a smidgen unfit. Zaheer Khan too is a problem, from experience, playing with the flu is extremely hard since each ball seems to be draining and you overheat quite quickly too. I am not sure if India are changing their squad after four ODIs like England (I don't think so, but hopefully it is a possibility), but if they are, maybe they should look at someone like Irfan Pathan or Pankaj Singh from the Tri Series who can really hold their own as bowlers whilst extending the batting order, allowing for five main bowlers (including themselves).
For the batting, I am inclined to say India should go with the same batsman. The team managed 329 and that is without the use of Karthik or the lower order and Ganguly was in horrible nick.
The fielding of India should be their main concern. Munaf Patel can't throw (not that he is bad, he physically cannot overarm throw), surely this should be the fielding coach's main priority since turning every one into a two to fine leg can get you an extra 20-30 runs an innings and you simply don't want that. Yuvraj Singh is a class (or seven) above the rest, you cannot think of one fielder who is good or even adequate. Dinesh Karthik is agile but cannot catch and Powar is also quite good at fielding (although the catch tells otherwise) but all the others are diabolical.
For the bowlers, if possible, I would drop Agarkar. He is bowling poorly, it is a horrible combination which is doing it. His arm has dropped and with loss of rhythm, he is releasing it late and this causes him to bowl both wide and short. The bowling coach should be able to help him to work on it but until then, he should not play. I am not sure about Munaf Patel, he still seems to not be fully fit and I am really not a fan of playing anyone who is even a smidgen unfit. Zaheer Khan too is a problem, from experience, playing with the flu is extremely hard since each ball seems to be draining and you overheat quite quickly too. I am not sure if India are changing their squad after four ODIs like England (I don't think so, but hopefully it is a possibility), but if they are, maybe they should look at someone like Irfan Pathan or Pankaj Singh from the Tri Series who can really hold their own as bowlers whilst extending the batting order, allowing for five main bowlers (including themselves).
For the batting, I am inclined to say India should go with the same batsman. The team managed 329 and that is without the use of Karthik or the lower order and Ganguly was in horrible nick.
The fielding of India should be their main concern. Munaf Patel can't throw (not that he is bad, he physically cannot overarm throw), surely this should be the fielding coach's main priority since turning every one into a two to fine leg can get you an extra 20-30 runs an innings and you simply don't want that. Yuvraj Singh is a class (or seven) above the rest, you cannot think of one fielder who is good or even adequate. Dinesh Karthik is agile but cannot catch and Powar is also quite good at fielding (although the catch tells otherwise) but all the others are diabolical.
legspinner@fred
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I thought the match started at a very early 10:15!
Skater
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According to Cricinfo, yes the match does start at 10.15 - very strange, I haven't seen an international start that early in this country before.
evertonfan
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I am inclined to agree. His domestic record is decidedly average: 118 wickets at 29.73. Econ: 4.66 and his international record (unsurprisingly) is worse, although he is a smidgen cheaper.
That being said, just watching him bowl, he is a very good bowler. Not so much a performer as a worker. He won't be afraid to toss one up and realises that a wicket is worth the 12 runs (2 sixes) which it might cost. His arm ball is quite good too. As far as spinning it, he is up there with Murali on some occasions too. He really puts a rip on the ball and the amount of spin he gets for a finger spinner is quite extraordinary.
