India tour of England 2018

It's a good thing we are in this spot. We will get to know where we stand if the openers fail and test our middle order.

Exactly. Time for the.middle order to step up .. This is a good test for us. Will show us exactly where we stand with this batting line up. Sad to see rahul miss out here to prove his worth. Fingers crossed for Raina
 
Teams world over are Going to take note here... Get through the top four and things are not so rosy for us.

And England answer their critics who wrote them off after the first game. They can compete and defeat the best of the teams in this format
 
And England answer their critics who wrote them off after the first game. They can compete and defeat the best of the teams in this format

Who the hell wrote them off? They have been one of the best sides since the 2015 WC.

The main takeaway from this is the weak nature of the middle order and potentially the demise of Dhoni the finisher.

Edit: just waiting for Dhoni to hit 10,000 ODI runs.
 
Dhoni is playing a test innings.
 
What happened to Kedar Jadhav?

I remember him doing a similar job against England in India when the top order failed.
 
The required run rate is more than 14 but Dhoni is still playing a Test innings. He will change his gear after the 45th over when the required run rate will be more than 20.
 
We somehow need to fit in DK in the squad was in good not only on in the IPL but prior to it as well.
And what the hell happened to the finisher 2.0? :lol. Sick of saying this but this what Dhoni has been doing since last 3 - 4 years killing the game by playing an absurdly slow innings few good performances in this year's IPl and chaps here were going gaga over it.
 
There is a big debate to drop Dhoni (especially now that there isn't a place within the top 4 with the inclusion of KL Rahul). Bring in Karthik as a better finishing option.
 
Who the hell wrote them off? They have been one of the best sides since the 2015 WC
Read the last few pages. There were a few messages on that
 
I think our tail is too long and it doesn't help that the people guarding the tail are Dhoni and Pandya, who can't exactly be counted upon to perform consistently

Having 4 non batters is really too much in today's time.
 
Read the last few pages. There were a few messages on that

I thought you meant experts on TV. My apologies.

Next game should be a belter with it being a decider. Hope it goes down to the wire, unlike the first two games.
 
Considering that you have to keep the advertisers happy and public's interest intact in the series.
Is anyone getting the smell of fixing after seeing dhoni's innings? If not what was he trying to do exactly? can anyone explain? this was not the first time the so called best finisher played such a terrible innings but this was the height. It was his worst innings ever.
 
India deserved that defeat. Their backup options when Bhuvi and Bumrah are not around was heavily tested and they came up a cropper. To me, its time to hand Ishant Sharma a return to the ODI squad. He has been in stellar form recently and deserves another chance. His experience when Bhuvi or Bumrah are unavailable, will be very handy. Who knows, Ishant might even knock out one of those two guys for a spot in the XI.

Great that the middle order was tested today. The failure is tough, but this series is part of the World Cup prep and it doesnt hurt to experience this now than in a WC semifinal or a final (which is what happened in the CT 2017 final for us). I think Raina batted well after the top order went out cheaply. Though his S/R is less than 80, he still put his head down and batted sensibly along with Kohli. I would actually call this innings a 'success' for Suresh Raina. I am sure Dinesh Karthik might have done similar only which says Raina continues to keep his spot. Dhoni batted slow and I didnt understand Kohli's defence when he said "Dhoni was trying to avoid us a big defeat". Who cares if you lose by 160 odd or 60 odd? This is not IPL where net run rate is going to come into question. Dhoni should've gone for the bigger shots much earlier and even if he has gotten out, it would have been fine. There is something about Dhoni and international cricket where he doesn't seem to convert his IPL form into intl form. And to his defence, he rarely gets to bat because the top order wins most games on their own. Hope he bats higher than Raina when situations like this arise.

I wouldn't be too concerned here. I back the team to strike back strongly in the last ODI. Well we have lost to a very good ODI side and that too in their home conditions. Nothing humiliating about this.

I think our tail is too long and it doesn't help that the people guarding the tail are Dhoni and Pandya, who can't exactly be counted upon to perform consistently

Having 4 non batters is really too much in today's time.

Unfortunately Ashwin and Jadeja have lost out of favor in the limited overs squads, for the leg spin of Kuldeep and Chahal. And Kuldeep and Chahal are doing extremely well in their specialist area (bowling) which more than cancels out their non-existent batting prowess. It will be fun if Jadeja can make a late miraculous comeback and squeeze himself into the WC side. ONLY if his bowling is good. If that happens, his fielding and lower order batting can lift India tremendously.

There is a big debate to drop Dhoni (especially now that there isn't a place within the top 4 with the inclusion of KL Rahul). Bring in Karthik as a better finishing option.

A few more failures for MSD and the chorus could get louder. But I personally feel (no bias here, sincerely) that just Dhoni's tactical inputs from behind the stumps alone makes him the 'FIRST NAME' on that team sheet ahead of Virat Kohli.
 
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India beaten I predicted English team's bounce back

Raina and Rohit gifted their wickets really hurts but superb spell by MO 7/0/20/1

India beat England here by chasing 326 but
We no longer have courageous cricketer like Kaif ,Yuvi[DOUBLEPOST=1531613795][/DOUBLEPOST]MS dropped root on 53 cost india otherwise england win by narrow margin than 86 runs
 

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