India's Tour Of Sri Lanka- August 2015

[CerealKiller]

2 pretty shocking umpiring decisions nobody on here has mentioned? and they were for chandimal and thirimanne...

if only india used drs...

 

[PokerAce]

if only india used drs...

The DRS debate is old, and frankly I don't buy into DRS. Yes it has its benefits but DRS has issues, the biggest of which is "Umpire's Call". A ball could be crashing into Leg Stump, say 49% of the ball, and if the Umpire initially rules it n.o, then the decision will remain n.o. That is silly.

49% of the ball crashing into leg stump from a fast bowler will break the leg stump into two pieces. How can that decision still remain n.o. after review.

The day DRS is fixed so that there is no sequence of events whereby an LBW appeal where the ball is shown to be hitting the stumps can ultimately remain n.o., that is the day I will say India now needs to accept DRS.

Also in a test match more often than not, these things balance out. For instance I think one of their openers was wrongly given caught in the fist innings and so on.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Jonty Rhodes is fun to hear. I like the new group of commentators coming through, Dravid Ganguly Jonty VVS Ponting. I am sure I am missing out on a few names, but in general the new generation coming into commentary are good.

I agree. Tend to prefer a blend of old and new. The number of time I was in a daze after hearing Manjerekar through the test is something.

On your earlier post- Ishant gives me more confidence with bat in hand than he does with ball in hand. Although, to be fair to him, apart from bowling poorly in one spell, he was generally okay in this test match.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

The DRS debate is old, and frankly I don't buy into DRS. Yes it has its benefits but DRS has issues, the biggest of which is "Umpire's Call". A ball could be crashing into Leg Stump, say 49% of the ball, and if the Umpire initially rules it n.o, then the decision will remain n.o. That is silly.

49% of the ball crashing into leg stump from a fast bowler will break the leg stump into two pieces. How can that decision still remain n.o. after review.

The day DRS is fixed so that there is no sequence of events whereby an LBW appeal where the ball is shown to be hitting the stumps can ultimately remain n.o., that is the day I will say India now needs to accept DRS.

Also in a test match more often than not, these things balance out. For instance I think one of their openers was wrongly given caught in the fist innings and so on.

I don't think you can blame the umpires today. FFS, you could only half hear the commentary because of all the crackers and political rally happening. I can imagine it must have been worse out there.

I agree with PokerAce, that DRS has it's flaws still. Personally, I would still have it with it's flaws than completely rule it out. But, like you said, hitting the stumps is hitting the stumps. I don't care how many cms or mms are involved in it. Out is out.

 

[CerealKiller]

The DRS debate is old, and frankly I don't buy into DRS. Yes it has its benefits but DRS has issues, the biggest of which is "Umpire's Call". A ball could be crashing into Leg Stump, say 49% of the ball, and if the Umpire initially rules it n.o, then the decision will remain n.o. That is silly.

49% of the ball crashing into leg stump from a fast bowler will break the leg stump into two pieces. How can that decision still remain n.o. after review.

The day DRS is fixed so that there is no sequence of events whereby an LBW appeal where the ball is shown to be hitting the stumps can ultimately remain n.o., that is the day I will say India now needs to accept DRS.

Also in a test match more often than not, these things balance out. For instance I think one of their openers was wrongly given caught in the fist innings and so on.

yes but both of the decisions weren't lbw's and if drs had been used both of them would've been reversed and india would've already won

 

[Aalay]

Well that was a very good comeback by Sri Lanka. Chamdimal looked dangerous in the first inning as well but that 162 was a solid inning under pressure. We are in a tricky situation here because we have a very long tail with 5 bowlers. We have already lost Rahul so Dhawan and Ishant needs to stay there for as long as possible. Ishant is someone who has a good defence and can hang around for a bit. Dhawan is in decent form so hopefully he can get some runs tomorrow.[DOUBLEPOST=1439559248][/DOUBLEPOST]

if only india used drs...

Come up with something new man, this is getting boring.

 

[abhi_jacko]

India will have an interesting choice should Vijay become available for the second test.

If Vijay and Shikhar are fit, they will be the first choice openers for sure.

It will be a toss up between Rohit/Rahul/Pujara for the no.3 spot. I am guessing Rohit will get it because:

1. He is Rohit
2. Rahul is technically the third opener and not the number 3 batsman
3. He is Rohit
4. Pujara is not Rohit

 

[PokerAce]

yes but both of the decisions weren't lbw's and if drs had been used both of them would've been reversed and india would've already won

It doesnt matter what the actual decision was about. Speaking as a matter of principal, till DRS has flaws, BCCI is entitled to keep refusing to use it. Also they did try to selectively use DRS on a tour earlier, where, DRS for LBW could not be used, but DRS could be used to adjudicate on edges and bat pad types.

Trust me, that tour threw up a bunch of shocking decisions, including one where an Indian batsman, was ruled n.o. for caught behind. Eng reviewed it, and despite nothing showing up on Hot Spot the decision was overturned. Dravid was on the end of a few shocking overturns that tour.

BCCI was then the first to question Hot Spot technology. Their stand was vidicated during the previous two Ashes which were a never ending series of DRS fiascos. Hot Spot after that tour was kicked out and and is now used only along with RTS. Even the creaters of Hot Spot had admitted that Hot Spot was not 100% accurate.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Wouldn't want to be a Rohit Sharma fan around here.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

It doesnt matter what the actual decision was about. Speaking as a matter of principal, till DRS has flaws, BCCI is entitled to keep refusing to use it. Also they did try to selectively use DRS on a tour earlier, where, DRS for LBW could not be used, but DRS could be used to adjudicate on edges and bat pad types.

Trust me, that tour threw up a bunch of shocking decisions, including one where an Indian batsman, was ruled n.o. for caught behind. Eng reviewed it, and despite nothing showing up on Hot Spot the decision was overturned. Dravid was on the end of a few shocking overturns that tour.

BCCI was then the first to question Hot Spot technology. Their stand was vidicated during the previous two Ashes which were a never ending series of DRS fiascos. Hot Spot after that tour was kicked out and and is now used only along with RTS. Even the creaters of Hot Spot had admitted that Hot Spot was not 100% accurate.

But it's pretty accurate with eliminating howlers. The media loves to sensationalize 1-2 incidents and we eat all of it.

Won't be surprised if the BCCI don't want to have it because the tech. is expensive.

 

[PokerAce]

But it's pretty accurate with eliminating howlers. The media loves to sensationalize 1-2 incidents and we eat all of it.

Won't be surprised if the BCCI don't want to have it because the tech. is expensive.

Do we really need tech to address the howlers. Most of the howlers you will find are easily detectable on replays. A ball going down leg, daylight between bat and ball for an edge.

To be honest the very definition of a howler is that it must be easily detectable on a simple replay to the naked eye.

A decision that requires all kinds of rocket science tech to be able to detect the faintest of edges faint edge, or a line pinpointing to where the ball was going, to be called an error is clearly not a howler. So what then is the purpose all the tech serving to begin with.

 

[abhi_jacko]

Just noticed something - where are out left handed batsmen. Only Dhawan out of the 11. And even the bench is all right handed if I recall correctly.

 

[Aalay]

Wouldn't want to be a Rohit Sharma fan around here.

You are the only one who can feel my pain.

 

[PokerAce]

Just noticed something - where are out left handed batsmen. Only Dhawan out of the 11. And even the bench is all right handed if I recall correctly.

Our test side has not been left hander heavy for a while now. Raina got a shot in AUs and didnt take it.[DOUBLEPOST=1439563156][/DOUBLEPOST]

You are the only one who can feel my pain.

WHY? as in not why ... but Whyyyyyy?

 

[abhi_jacko]

Does anyone feel that umpiring standards have gotten worse ever since DRS (not criticizing DRS, I support it).

Its almost like the umpires are lazier now - the no-ball thing is prime example of it. We never had umpires double checking for no-balls in the pre-DRS era, did we. Because the umpires were actually looking at the bowler's foot. I think they only way something will be done about this is if one of the big3 lose a final or semi by 1 run in an ICC tournament where a no-ball wasnt called


On top of that, you would think that since they do not pay attention to the no balls anymore, they would atleast have a couple seconds extra to see what happens at the striker's end better. But that is equally bad.